Smokescreen at the Pentagon

[DGM]

If what i said happened, that means they should be able to replicate it in a movie! If it starred say Bruce Willis, it might be a box office hit.
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ETA: And to draw the young crowd have Justin Bieber co-star. We also need some bad ass in there also, like Danny Trego. Some hottie like Catherine Zeta Jones, too. Lol.

Too far fetched. No one would believe it. There has to atleast be a casual connection to realism.

 

[yankee451]

If what i said happened, that means they should be able to replicate it in a movie! If it starred say Bruce Willis, it might be a box office hit.
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ETA: And to draw the young crowd have Justin Bieber co-star. We also need some bad ass in there also, like Danny Trego. Some hottie like Catherine Zeta Jones, too. Lol.

Propaganda takes many forms, and it's far more effective if the audience believes it's just entertainment.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

We'll it ain't workin' here. All ya got is unsupported assertion and innuendo. Your assertions are incompatible with all other evidence.

 

[Iamme]

It would be a movie similar to True Lies, starring Arnold Schwartzeneger and Jamie Lee Curtis. What a movie. Unbelievable scenes. But since they were able to show it, to us it looked real. Loved the ending where he launched that terrorist dude who fell onto the hover jet`s missile and launched him into his own guys helicopter.

 

[Justin39640]

I said there was no evidence of 66 thousand lbs of fuel. Your paraphrasing skills are lacking.

If you were gonna fake a plane crash, using the appropriate type and amount of fuel for the resulting fire would probably be step one.

 

[NoahFence]

So the NWO pulls off this grand scheme. But wait! There's not enough smoke. Hey, Billy Bob, run over to Rent-Some-Smoke and rent a big one and put it right next to the hole. Yeah, right NOW, we've only got a few seconds.

The NWO had a TON of old smoke machines left over from cheesy '80s heavy metal video's.

 

[332nd]

Please. You've never examined the evidence.

I have received photographs and have spoken at length with someone who was part of the EMT crew looking for survivors. He said it was a surreal situation where the search dogs were getting depressed because they couldn't find any people so they would take turns hiding in the rubble to give the dogs someone to find. The security was tight, no cameras allowed, they would be subject to searches whenever they entered or left the area and he noted he smelled no fuel and saw no hint of a jet crash. He says he doesn't know what happened but he's sure what didn't happen, and that's a plane crash.

So you got photographs from someone who wasn't allowed to have a camera in the area?

Let me guess, you can't say who the person is because "they" will get him, & you also can't post the photographs here because it might reveal who they are.

 

[332nd]

Why would half the stuff they come up with be necessary? They never heard of K.I.S.S. in the CT world.

Evil dudes: "We need to make a smoke screen after the fact so no one will notice the hole matches the plane we will tell them we used".

Exactly that!

I just find it fascinating that they had to have the smoke machine, but didn't need a plane, a camera to catch the impact in clear detail, or even bodies for the EMTs to find...

 

[NoahFence]

Why, does that sort of thing only happen in the movies? In real life our government really, really does care for each and every one of us? As I was saying I think I'll start a thread about how unbearable the cognitive dissonance must be among the true believers.

The highlighted (as you know) is irrelevant. Unfortunately for your kind, 9/11 isn't some fable passed down from generation to generation. This isn't the bible, a historic record written by man thousands of years ago. This happened right in front of our faces. You may be too young to remember it, but many of us here are not.

The physical evidence is simply overwhelming. Nutjobs who get their kicks out of mocking the deaths of 3,000 people can't change the simple fact that 4 aircraft were hijacked and used as weapons. We don't need studies, we don't need to use our maths, we don't need to trust NIST or the government or any of that. This happened right in front of our faces.

You may as well pretend that the grand canyon doesn't exist. This asinine "no planes" crap is exactly that retarded.

 

[cantonear1968]

Please. You've never examined the evidence.

I have received photographs and have spoken at length with someone who was part of the EMT crew looking for survivors. He said it was a surreal situation where the search dogs were getting depressed because they couldn't find any people so they would take turns hiding in the rubble to give the dogs someone to find. The security was tight, no cameras allowed, they would be subject to searches whenever they entered or left the area and he noted he smelled no fuel and saw no hint of a jet crash. He says he doesn't know what happened but he's sure what didn't happen, and that's a plane crash.

yankee, this response does not jive with just a few days ago when I asked if you had ever spoken with any of the first responders at the Pentagon and you answered no. Now you're saying you interviewed an EMT.

Which story do you want to go with? And sorry if I dont just take your word on things. If you want this statement to be take seriously you'll have to provide the name of the EMT to be weighed against all of the evidence concluding a plane crashed there.

 

[yankee451]

yankee, this response does not jive with just a few days ago when I asked if you had ever spoken with any of the first responders at the Pentagon and you answered no. Now you're saying you interviewed an EMT.

Which story do you want to go with? And sorry if I dont just take your word on things. If you want this statement to be take seriously you'll have to provide the name of the EMT to be weighed against all of the evidence concluding a plane crashed there.

He wasn't a first responder.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

So is your last claim a lie or moving the goalpost?

 

[cantonear1968]

He wasn't a first responder.

Me: Did you talk with any first responders?

You: No........but I did talk with an on scene EMT.


See how simple that could have gone? Probably something you could have brought up 3 days ago if you wanted to be believed.


ETA: BTW, did this Emt say anything about a smoke machine?

 

[DGM]

You see the dogs couldn't find any human remains, and my buddy couldn't see any evidence of a jet or smell any jet fuel, so clearly they must have removed those things, right? I mean they started scurrying around picking up plane parts immediately so it sure makes sense that they got the whole place spic and span before they brought in the search dogs. Or does it?

You don't plan on ever producing proof of these claims do you?

Tell us again why we should believe you?

 

[yankee451]

You don't plan on ever producing proof of these claims do you?

Tell us again why we should believe you?

The question was have I ever talked to anyone who was there, and I have so what's your beef?

The point I keep making is that you good people keep demanding things you cannot provide yourselves.

However, I provided a video of a military-grade smoke machine compared to the smoke at the Pentagon, which is an exact fit. The Pentagon being the headquarters of the military certainly had access to such equipment. I supplied a description of how smoke machines work and that a smoke machine becomes a flame thrower if the heating element gets too hot, which is also visible in the video, behavior not indicative of the pathetic "steam leak" excuse given by some of the denizens around here. This IS proof, whether or not any of you lot are willing to admit it.

 

[DGM]

The question was have I ever talked to anyone who was there, and I have so what's your beef?

Your misrepresentation. You have shown no proof you ever did this. Why should anyone believe you?

The point I keep making is that you good people keep demanding things you cannot provide yourselves.

Like what? We provide evidence you handwave it away with no proof. Do you plan to produce some proof?

However, I provided a video of a military-grade smoke machine compared to the smoke at the Pentagon, which is an exact fit. The Pentagon being the headquarters of the military certainly had access to such equipment. I supplied a description of how smoke machines work and that a smoke machine becomes a flame thrower if the heating element gets too hot, which is also visible in the video, behavior not indicative of the pathetic "steam leak" excuse given by some of the denizens around here. This IS proof, whether or not any of you lot are willing to admit it.

It's a joke that you can't place at the site. Why should anyone believe you? Who do you work for, comrade?

 

[yankee451]

Your misrepresentation. You have shown no proof you ever did this. Why should anyone believe you?



Like what? We provide evidence you handwave it away with no proof. Do you plan to produce some proof?




It's a joke that you can't place at the site. Why should anyone believe you? Who do you work for, comrade?

Why should anyone believe their lying eyes?

 

[Kid Eager]

Why should anyone believe their lying eyes?

Why does brick spackle eat the turnip?

 

[DGM]

Why should anyone believe their lying eyes?

You really don't have anything?

Why do you think anyone would pay any attention to you (outside of a play toy)?

 

[cjnewson88]

Comparing two things and saying they "look" similar is not proof Yankee and you know that.

"an exact fit" which lasts for mere seconds before reducing to a lazy flow of white, if you were man enough to post the entire video you stole the gif from. What a joke.

Typical no planer garbage.