Smokescreen at the Pentagon

[DGM]

No. I'm just curious as to why a smoke machine would be necessary.

Why would half the stuff they come up with be necessary? They never heard of K.I.S.S. in the CT world.

Evil dudes: "We need to make a smoke screen after the fact so no one will notice the hole matches the plane we will tell them we used".

 

[tsig]

Like I said, I admit them when I make them. Had there been a real plane there would be no need for military grade smoke machines.

No, in order to really sell the plane they needed both the smoke machine and a real plane, reality just isn't real enough to be trusted.

 

[BrianH]

No, in order to really sell the plane they needed both the smoke machine and a real plane, reality just isn't real enough to be trusted.

That was actually a sales program Boeing was running in the late 90's: buy a jet, get a free smoke machine.

 

[Craig4]

Like I said, I admit them when I make them. Had there been a real plane there would be no need for military grade smoke machines.

No, a plane impacted the Pentagon and two planes impacted the WTC. You should admit that you are in error.

 

[SezMe]

Perhaps the fires weren't providing enough shock and awe to warrant a dozen year war in retribution?

So the NWO pulls off this grand scheme. But wait! There's not enough smoke. Hey, Billy Bob, run over to Rent-Some-Smoke and rent a big one and put it right next to the hole. Yeah, right NOW, we've only got a few seconds.

 

[Iamme]

Did I miss something? Were smoke machines used at the Pentagon?

Why yes they WERE! They were found years later, camouflaged on a nearby grassy knoll!

 

[Kid Eager]

Why yes they WERE! They were found years later, camouflaged on a nearby grassy knoll!

It's obvious - the smoke machines weren't really there - it was *holograms* of things that were mistaken as smoke machines.

The absence of evidence of any holograms projectors merely confirms that it was planned well in advance, and that the hologram projectors were concealed by holograms. Oh, wait....

Then again, maybe they were the payload of special JASSMs...

 

[fess]

Like I said, I admit them when I make them. Had there been a real plane there would be no need for military grade smoke machines.

Why would anyone need a “military grade smoke machine” when 66 k/lbs of jet fuel would more than do the job?

 

[yankee451]

Why would anyone need a “military grade smoke machine” when 66 k/lbs of jet fuel would more than do the job?

Because there is no evidence to support said fuel, nor the 757 that is alleged to have carried it as well as to have cut down street lamps, bored through the Pentagon's brick and concrete facade, mowed-down a forest of reinforced concrete pillars and punched a 12 foot circular exit hole before vanishing into thin air.

But there is evidence for the smoke machine. It is clearly visible on video.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Smoke machines might deserve 7 pages of thread..............................


..................................................................if it weren't for the fact that fire, and large scale combustion achieves the same results, with the added visuals of damage to the building and it's surroundings. It's one thing to deny that the plane hit the building... yet to deny that there was even a fire and that they had to rig smoke machines to make it look that way.... I think that deserves study in how the human mind fabricates events

(or we can avoid feeding theories that are made up for the sole purpose of getting responses)

 

[yankee451]

Smoke machines might deserve 7 pages of thread..............................


..................................................................if it weren't for the fact that fire, and large scale combustion achieves the same results, with the added visuals of damage to the building and it's surroundings. It's one thing to deny that the plane hit the building... yet to deny that there was even a fire and that they had to rig smoke machines to make it look that way.... I think that deserves study in how the human mind fabricates events

(or we can avoid feeding theories that are made up for the sole purpose of getting responses)

I'm not denying there was fire, it is clearly visible near the smoke machine. I think a good thread would be about cognitive dissonance among the true believers.

 

[Justin39640]

I'm not denying there was fire, it is clearly visible near the smoke machine. I think a good thread would be about cognitive dissonance among the true believers.

You just said there was no hydrocarbon fuel for that hydrocarbon fire.

Yes, this thread is a shining example of your true belief getting in the way of your problem solving.

 

[cantonear1968]

A steam leak that bursts into flame?

That doesn't exactly fit the description of a steam leak, but it does fit the description of a military smoke machine with an element that was too hot.


http://www.smokemachines.net/faqs.shtml

Like so:

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/fire1.png[/qimg]
[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/fire2.png[/qimg]

yankee just stop it. You've already admitted you've never talked to anyone who was there. You are literally just making this up to fit your bias.

Try taking this subject seriously.

 

[Craig4]

I'm not denying there was fire, it is clearly visible near the smoke machine. I think a good thread would be about cognitive dissonance among the true believers.

Yes well, obviously there was a fire because there was a plane crash. It would be rather difficult to have a a plane full of fuel crash into a building and not have a fire.

 

[yankee451]

yankee just stop it. You've already admitted you've never talked to anyone who was there. You are literally just making this up to fit your bias.

Try taking this subject seriously.

Please. You've never examined the evidence.

I have received photographs and have spoken at length with someone who was part of the EMT crew looking for survivors. He said it was a surreal situation where the search dogs were getting depressed because they couldn't find any people so they would take turns hiding in the rubble to give the dogs someone to find. The security was tight, no cameras allowed, they would be subject to searches whenever they entered or left the area and he noted he smelled no fuel and saw no hint of a jet crash. He says he doesn't know what happened but he's sure what didn't happen, and that's a plane crash.

 

[yankee451]

You just said there was no hydrocarbon fuel for that hydrocarbon fire.

Yes, this thread is a shining example of your true belief getting in the way of your problem solving.

I said there was no evidence of 66 thousand lbs of fuel. Your paraphrasing skills are lacking.

 

[yankee451]

Yes well, obviously there was a fire because there was a plane crash. It would be rather difficult to have a a plane full of fuel crash into a building and not have a fire.

Obviously they used a smoke machine because they faked a plane crash.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

evidence

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

 

[Iamme]

So. A missile did this? Fired by our own govt upon itself? To justify a war? And by claiming it was a plane that caused the damage and fire, the public be duped into thinking foreign al Queda or Taliban terrorists did it? But missiles dont make that much fire? So our govt rigged up smoke machines to fake people out? Then planted plane parts all over? And maybe stuck charred dead bodies in there also?
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Is this on the right track?

 

[Iamme]

If what i said happened, that means they should be able to replicate it in a movie! If it starred say Bruce Willis, it might be a box office hit.
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ETA: And to draw the young crowd have Justin Bieber co-star. We also need some bad ass in there also, like Danny Trego. Some hottie like Catherine Zeta Jones, too. Lol.