Smokescreen at the Pentagon

No, he's right, it is steam. You are entitled to your opinion but you're wrong of course.

A steam leak that bursts into flame?

That doesn't exactly fit the description of a steam leak, but it does fit the description of a military smoke machine with an element that was too hot.

How does a smoke machine work?

A smoke machine, in its simplest terms, is a heating element which gets very hot, through which special fluid is pumped and is vapourised, thereby creating smoke vapour which exits the machine through the nozzle. Electronic circuitry ensures that the heating block in the smoke machine is kept between certain temperatures - too hot and the machine turns into a flame thrower - too cold and it shoots out hot liquid.
http://www.smokemachines.net/faqs.shtml

Like so:

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Who said it was just steam? There is also diesel and oil burning in there, as well as the other components burning. If there is an exhaust vent, which it appears to be coming out of, then anything burning will also exit through there.

Still debunked.

It was a burning generator. Get over it.

But I'd love to hear your explanation as to exactly what purpose would 'they' required a smoke machine which lasts for approximately 15 seconds.....
 
Who said it was just steam? T

You did.

But now it also includes other stuff that just so happens to make white smoke until it periodically bursts into flame just as is described in the video summary:
Pentagon Smoke on 9/11 compared to a Russian military smoke machine

"How does a smoke machine work?

A smoke machine, in its simplest terms, is a heating element which gets very hot, through which special fluid is pumped and is vapourised, thereby creating smoke vapour which exits the machine through the nozzle. Electronic circuitry ensures that the heating block in the smoke machine is kept between certain temperatures - too hot and the machine turns into a flame thrower - too cold and it shoots out hot liquid. "
http://www.smokemachines.net/faqs.shtml

Note the burst of flame at about the 20 second mark.

Original Source 911datasets.org

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Many thanks to LetsRoll forums.
http://letsrollforums.com/fake-smoke-machines-pentagon-t23757.html

http://youtu.be/39IwxayVeIw
 
Sorry to interrupt, I haven't gone back through the thread to see if anyone has explained why would people do something like, I dunno, come up with a devious plan to blow up the pentagon which includes parking a big ******* smoke generator outside a building that is quite on fire and then let people take videos and stills of it?

Sorry if this is already been hashed out.

Carry on.
 
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Sorry to interrupt, I haven't gone back through the thread to see if anyone has explained why would people do something like, I dunno, come up with a devious plan to blow up the pentagon which includes parking a big ******* smoke generator outside a building that is quite on fire and then let people take videos and stills of it?

Sorry if this is already been hashed out.

Carry on.


Apparently it's not enough for the Vast Evil Conspiracy to do Evil it must also be seen to do Evil.

Either that or the VEC can't get good help.
 
Who said it was just steam? There is also diesel and oil burning in there, as well as the other components burning. If there is an exhaust vent, which it appears to be coming out of, then anything burning will also exit through there.

Still debunked.

It was a burning generator. Get over it.


It's a steam leak, no it's a dessert topping!
Which is it a steam leak or a burning generator? It's both!

But I'd love to hear your explanation as to exactly what purpose would 'they' required a smoke machine which lasts for approximately 15 seconds.....

:confused:

Because without a big show, there could be no big lie. 15 seconds? Don't be silly...Pentagon 'fires' "raged" :D for 36 hours!
http://www.history.com/topics/pentagon
 
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Sorry to interrupt, I haven't gone back through the thread to see if anyone has explained why would people do something like, I dunno, come up with a devious plan to blow up the pentagon which includes parking a big ******* smoke generator outside a building that is quite on fire and then let people take videos and stills of it?

Sorry if this is already been hashed out.

Carry on.

Perhaps the fires weren't providing enough shock and awe to warrant a dozen year war in retribution?
 
Perhaps the fires weren't providing enough shock and awe to warrant a dozen year war in retribution?

NWO Garden Gnome #1: The plan is we're going to attack the Pentagon with a cruise missile disguised as a plane.

NWO Garden Gnome #2: Why?

NWOGG#1: It'll horrify people to think that a passenger jet full of random people was crashed into the headquarters of the US military. They'll give us carte blanche to invade Iraq and take their oil.

NWOGG#2: So we'll do it in the evening, then?

NWOGG#1: No, broad daylight in front of God and everybody. It'll be awesome.

NWOGG#2: Seems okay so far. What about debris? A jet airliner weighs, what, over 300,000 pounds?

NWOGG#1: That's okay, we'll just have the FCC investigators bring a couple of truckloads of scraps with them and spread them on the lawn. The reporters and first responders shouldn't notice that they're taking stuff out of a van and putting it down instead of picking it up. They're pretty stupid.

NWOGG#2: Right you are. What about other damage? Can we have someone saw down a couple of light poles and claim they were clipped by the plane?

NWOGG#1: Oh, that's terrific! The little details make all the difference, just like the jet-engine-cannon we're going to install in WTC 1. I think we can get a random taxi to drop a pole onto, you know, to make it look authentic. Again, nobody will notice this preparation out in the open, in broad daylight. As I said, people are pretty stupid.

NWOGG#2: This seems pretty terrifiying, what with the random threat of hijacking and all. We're going to spread these out through the week, right?

NWOGG#1: Oh, no. We'll do it all on the same morning. We're blaming this on al quaeda. They always do those simultaneous suicide attacks, like the African embassy bombings we faked a few years ago.

NWOGG#2: We did those? Wow. I thought those were the real deal.

NWOGG#1: Nope. Al quaeda always screws these things up so we stopped paying them and started doing it ourselves.

NWOGG#2: I like it so far. But I think we need something more. I know a guy who has the world's largest disco fogger. We can borrow it and drive it into the wreckage to make smoke, tell everyone something was on fire. I dunno, a generator or something.

NWOGG#1: That's a good idea. How long will it run?

NWOGG#2: Only about 15 seconds. Should be enough for a few pictures. It won't really obscure what we're doing in the hole, though, so we're going to have to get the Pentagon librarians to carry airplane seats and dead bodies through the Pentagon and shove them into the rubble.

NWOGG#1: Won't people notice that stuff moving through the halls?

NWOGG#2: Have you ever been inside the Pentagon? That place is a maze. Nobody will notice we're going the wrong way.
 
Actually I'm one of the few people here who admits error when I make them. What are you referring to? The billowing smoke complete with bursts of flame because the burner was too hot?

Do you insist it's steam?

The error that needs acknowledging is the one where you claim that no planes struck the Pentagon or WTC.
 
The error that needs acknowledging is the one where you claim that no planes struck the Pentagon or WTC.

Like I said, I admit them when I make them. Had there been a real plane there would be no need for military grade smoke machines.
 
Like I said, I admit them when I make them.

No ya don't. You change the subject or twist people's words around. Your modus operandi of scoring Internet Points using disingenuous statements does not further the truth.
Had there been a real plane there would be no need for military grade smoke machines.

Exactly; There was a real plane, so there was no need for a "military grade smoke machine." Whatever that means.

You are a tool. I mean that in the technical/work-related sense of the term, not the schoolyard sense. Forces beyond your ken have manipulated you for their own ends. You are actually doing the job correctly, and quite well. The entire No Planes movement was created by Rumsfeld deputy Cambone during the run-up to Iraq to discredit the "truth" movement that was opposed to their ill-conceived and poorly executed war. By continuing to promulgate the least sensible and most easily discredited elements of both the "truth" and antiwar movements you make them all look bad. You bring discredit to the search for truth.

Every argument from you is based on faulty reasoning, misreading of one or two carefully chosen photos and a complete abandonment of common sense. All your arguments are Innuendo and Argument from Incredulity. Tha's it. Ya got no facts. None. Less than one, even, because what facts you DO employ are completely reversed in your hands.

You are a strange, sad little man and you have my pity.
 

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