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Psychic Detectives are real

That's not the case here Alice. She gave the police this information when the crime first occured. The police at the time of the murder were skeptics and they didn't want to use the psychics sketch of the criminal or the information she gave them at the time so they put it in the police file. Thirteen years later a new cold case detective looked through the file and saw the psychics sketch and the info she gave them. He then used her sketch from 13 years earlier and the skeptical detective called it a direct hit. They put the psychics sketch on the news and it led to the arrest of the person who commited the crime. The only new information she gave the cold case detective was that the killer moved to San Diego or San Bernadino and she was right, he moved to San Diego after the murder.
 
Ok, lets try and explain this slowly to you.

Just because you say something, it doesn't become true. You need to either provide proper evidence for your statements or go away. Continuously repeating what you have seen on a TV show is not evidence.

I read a book once where a Wizard was able to to put on a fireworks display with his wooden staff. I was instantly skeptical, but then I saw it with my own eyes on television. And in the same show, one of the people on it, confirmed that the Wizard was indeed able to do it. Quote "the finest fireworks ever seen, they burst in stars of blue and green." That was all the evidence I needed.

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This is what happened when Marie E Parker asked for Kay Rhea's help in finding her missing friend Audrey Herron:

As for Kay Rhea...We had done a taped session with her by phone. She gave us various details in which we all had thought would help Audrey's case. We paid a $300 fee and were waiting desperately for the tapes to arrive....They came, and to my horror they were blank! When I called her to obtain another, she scrambled to even recall our session. She did not know anything she did before, and in fact gave a totally different "vision". She did not refund our money, and from that point on I believe that was the beginning of the end for me as far as psychics go. I no longer was going to "pay" to have my hope of finding Audrey fulfilled with people who make a living by playing with my emotions.

The fact remains that Audrey is still missing as are thousands of others. Remember that when you contemplate using a psychic to find your loved one.

Searching for Audrey...Marie E. Parker
http://audreymayherron.expage.com

Kay Rhea and her fellow "psychics" are beneath contempt. They rely on the fact that most of the people they deal with are desperate, unaware of the psychics' tricks of the trade, or - let's be blunt - wilfully ignorant. Notice that Rhea had forgotten the details of her first "vision" so she simply invented another! That was an easy way to earn a non-returnable $300, don't you think?
 
polomontana said:
At some point you have to be a freethinker instead of a closed minded skeptics.
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You're awfully close to a bingo there

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Why do you keep repeating the same line over and over again? If you say it enough times we'll just take your word for it?

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Polomontana.

Since you are so very clearly such an open minded seeker of psychic truth, I would recommend that you purchase, read and consider the following book to further your education:

Full Facts Book of Cold Reading
 
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polomontana said:
... Kay said they worked together in a big factory, they did. ....
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A possible example of how things can grow in the telling. Originally you said 'she was able to determine that the suspect worked in a "big factory," ' not that he worked in the same factory as the victim - which surely would have been an important detail in trying to track him down.

Then in the later post, the subsequently discovered fact that they were co-workers becomes attributed to the psychic when she said nothing of the sort. Obviously you may have been being loose with your terminology in the earlier post, but it would be odd to miss out such a hit - one that would narrow the search by orders of magnitude...
 
After watching the Youtube video Björn Toulouse provided I would have thought this case was closed. Kay Rhea was exposed as previously taken undeserved credit (police and family members denied she helped) at the expense of more misery to another victim's family. She was given a new photo of a fresh case on camera and, knowing she was national TV, said the body was within thirty miles of the victim's home close to two roads that look like a Y and begin with an s or a (I don't remember which). When pressed for more details she said in a smarmy way that she wouldn't do the leg work, that was the job of the police. Her fee evidently isn't high enough for her to get in a car and take a trip to put the victim's family out of their misery. She clearly is an evil scoundrel. polomontana can't provide any information that wasn't produced by the Psychic Detective people who have less ethics than the Ghost Investigator show. The only article I found in the local paper made no mention of Rhrea.

polomontana should provide evidence not fabricated by the psychic detective show or admit defeat and try again once more with his best case before retiring to the woo sites he will appreciate more than this one.
 
Ethan Thane Athen said:
A possible example of how things can grow in the telling. Originally you said 'she was able to determine that the suspect worked in a "big factory," ' not that he worked in the same factory as the victim - which surely would have been an important detail in trying to track him down.
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Actually, according to this judicial opinion, which is not linked below, the two worked at the same bar.

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Add an http: to the above and see the fourth paragraph under the FACTS section.
 
Alice Shortcake said:
This is what happened when Marie E Parker asked for Kay Rhea's help in finding her missing friend Audrey Herron:

As for Kay Rhea...We had done a taped session with her by phone. She gave us various details in which we all had thought would help Audrey's case. We paid a $300 fee and were waiting desperately for the tapes to arrive....They came, and to my horror they were blank! When I called her to obtain another, she scrambled to even recall our session. She did not know anything she did before, and in fact gave a totally different "vision". She did not refund our money, and from that point on I believe that was the beginning of the end for me as far as psychics go. I no longer was going to "pay" to have my hope of finding Audrey fulfilled with people who make a living by playing with my emotions.

The fact remains that Audrey is still missing as are thousands of others. Remember that when you contemplate using a psychic to find your loved one.

Searching for Audrey...Marie E. Parker
http://audreymayherron.expage.com

Kay Rhea and her fellow "psychics" are beneath contempt. They rely on the fact that most of the people they deal with are desperate, unaware of the psychics' tricks of the trade, or - let's be blunt - wilfully ignorant. Notice that Rhea had forgotten the details of her first "vision" so she simply invented another! That was an easy way to earn a non-returnable $300, don't you think?
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I'm so sorry for you, your friend, and her family. This just adds salt to the wound.

It's stories like this that make me infinitely happy that I never once believed I could give this kind of information--and that my own cold reading, which I sincerely believed was "a gift", was exposed before I pursued it to this kind of level. To this day I could never be able to forgive myself if I hurt people like this.
 
polomontana said:
At some point you have to be a freethinker instead of a closed minded skeptics. Some skeptics are dogmatic about their skepticism and they "believe" psychic ability is not possible no matter how illogical they may sound. This is just one case and I can post many more but this one case seems like a handful all by itself.
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This is true. Stupid close-minded people being all dogmatic about wanting evidence and basing their beliefs on that instead of television shows who want to stay on the air and thinking that all hypotheses are equally valid and deserve equal weight.

Jerks! :mad:
 
Boy oh boy, this case has people stumped. Why don't you get James Randi to go and interview the police officers. I'm sure he will not because he would rather go after easy targets like Sylvia Browne. The skeptic better stick with people like her and Miss Cleo so they can stay in denial.

Kay Rhea is right, it's not her job to do the leg work. It's the job of the invesigator to investigate the crime. The psychic will tell you they are an investigative tool that the detectives can use.

The whole you tube clip is designed to fail. First she see's two other psychics that don't help so they go in skeptical. Kay Rhea gave them information and they didn't investigate. If the piece was honest they would have hired a professional detective to look into the information and not just a couple of flunkies from the TV station. Like when she mentioned a fork in the road, they went out just looking for forks in the road just to debunk the psychic not to solve the case. What they should have looked for a fork in the road that was connected to the building she mentioned. An investigator has to investigate.

Also, the show talked about "Psychic powers" and when you associate psychic ability to supernatural powers then your wrong. Psychic ability occurs naturally and the only supernatural thing about it is that we don't fully understand it yet. We are still testing some of Einsteins theories. So because we have not reached a technological point to test these things doesn't mean there is no evidence and the evidence for psychic ability is overwhelming. We can't test black holes or virtual particles either, should every physicist just throw them out the window? That's how illogical some sound.

Psychics will not be 100% correct because psychic ability occurs naturally and that means it's subject to human error. All doctors will not cure 100% of their patients, all lawyers will not win 100% of their trials and all detectives will not solve 100% of their cases.

This is why the skeptic tries to tie the words supernatural powers to psychics. This way they can say the psychic needs to be correct everytime. That's not the case at all. Psychic ability is subject to human error and they will not be right 100% of the time because psychic ability occurs naturally and we survive death naturally.

Also, we could look into these thing more if the money was there for research. Dr. Michio Kaku says you shouldn't look into these things until you reach tenure. This is the enviroment of dogmatic skepticism not the domain of a freethinker.

You have some places doing the research but it's not enough. Check out the Veritas Project, they are located at the University of Arizona and they look into mediums and life after death. If your a freethinker you will not be scared to browse the sight.
 
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polomontana said:
First the case was covered on the show Psychic Detective. The police were on the show vouching for Kay Rhea. I also believe it was on an episode of Larry King Live as well.
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I'm getting to this party late, so it may have been asked before. But I'll ask again anyway:

Do you have anything, any evidence, any facts, anything to support your assertions other than television shows? Anything at all?
 
polomontana said:
... Like when she mentioned a fork in the road, they went out just looking for forks in the road just to debunk the psychic not to solve the case. What they should have looked for a fork in the road that was connected to the building she mentioned. An investigator has to investigate.
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Why am I suddenly having a vision of Fozzie and Kermit?
 
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