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Psychic Detectives are real

If we were to use the standard that some advocate on this board, we might as well not look into virtual particles, dark matter, dark energy, M-Theory, string theory, quantum loop gravity, extra dimensions, inflation theory, black holes, holographic principle, parallel universes and more. We would have to scrap the whole field of theoretical physics. There's more direct evidence for psychic ability than there is for some of these things.

Again, psychic ability occurs naturally and we survive death naturally. Let me just give you one example. Here's a description of a documentary featuring psychic Kay Rhea.

Hosted by actress-turned-newscaster Andrea Thompson, this cable TV documentary detailed actual stories of psychics working hand in glove with law-enforcement officials to solve tough missing persons cases. Specifically, the special focused on Kay Rhea, a lifelong psychic, and Tim McFadden, a detective with the Fresno Police Department. Having collaborated professionally for 20 years, Rhea and McFadden are credited with solving scores of grim and baffling murder mysteries -- or at the very least, are given points for locating the bodies of the murder victims.

Here's more of just one of Kay Rhea's cases:

In 1989, Rachel Lombera was murdered in her apartment in Selma, California. She was beaten to death with a boombox and a chair. The police investigated the scene, and found no evidence of forced entry. Rachel new her killer and willingly let the person inside. The police found fingerprints but were never able to match them to a suspect.
She was last scene at a local bar dancing with a man the night before her murder. A witness was able to provide the police with a composite sketch of the man. The sketch was publicised, but the leads that came into the police were all dead ends.

Rachel's family convinced the police to seek the help of a psychic. The police called psychic Kay Rhea. Kay only asked for a photograph of Rachel, nothing more. From the photograph, she was able to determine that the suspect worked in a "big factory," and was also romanticaly linked to Rachel. Kay called a sketch artist friend and was able to provide a sketch of her own.

The police were skeptical, and set the sketch aside. Twelve years pass. In 2002, the unsolved case was given to Detectives Brandon Shoemaker and Gary Gass.

While looking through the case file, the dectectives find Kay's sketch and decide to contact her. Kay remembers the case, and tells them that the suspect has left the area and is probably somewhere south, like San Diego or San Bernadino. The detectives decide to publisize Kay's sketch, and two months later they get a break in the case. They recieved a tip about a man who used to live in Selma who matches Kay's sketch. As the detectives investigate their new suspect, they discover that he worked at the same plant as Rachel, and moved to San Diego shortly after the murder. They interrogate him, and he admits to the crime.

Kay Rhea also said he killed her because she was about to spill the beans. When he admitted to the crime he said he killed her because she threatened to tell his wife about their affair.

The article even contacted a skeptical police officer and this is what he said:

We tried to contact Detective Shoemaker, which was a task in itself. After being redirected several times, We finally talked to a secratary who said that he was currently serving in Iraq. However, she gave me the number of his partner, Detective Gass.

We first asked Detective Gass if he believed in psychics, and he told us he did not. We asked him about how Kay could have easily rationalized that the suspect was "angry" while killing Rachel, due to the fact that he beat her to death with a boombox and a chair. He told us that "she could have easily guessed that he was angry, it wasn't something new to us."

However, the thing that stunned him was the sketch. When we asked him about the sketch, he said, "Damn, if it wasn't just so close." He said that it was "scary". He told us that he had no idea how Kay could have gotten that information so accuretly. He went on to talk about the purpose of sketches, that they were used to "eliminate everyone else." Kay's sketch wasn't used like that, it was a direct hit. We finally asked him if they could have solved the case without Kay, and he told us that, "without using the psychic, we probably would have never solved the case."

This is from a skeptic.

The main reason why some don't accept psychics is becaused skeptics try to attach the supernatural to psychic ability when psychic ability occurs naturally.

This is a no brainer and this is just one case out of hundreds I could post from various psychics.
 
Well Im sure th McCann family would appreciate a real psychic detective right now.
Gerry McCann has a blog where he can be contacted.
 
Googling "Rachel Lombera Kay Rhea" revealed one website - interestingly the one quoted in polomontana's last post.

That's it.

Odd that such an achievement within the psychic community received so little attention.
 
Thanks for not boring us with physics, but you seem to be claiming that the mind/soul is a form of energy independent of the body and capable of surviving physical death. This is a widespread misunderstanding of the term "energy". When the body dies the electrical and chemical activity in the brain that enables us to think, feel etc isn't destroyed, it is simply transformed into the process of decomposition.

Purely as a matter of interest, what do you think happens to lightning after it strikes? Does it go to Lightning Heaven?
 
The main reason why some don't accept psychics is becaused skeptics try to attach the supernatural to psychic ability when psychic ability occurs naturally.

This is a no brainer and this is just one case out of hundreds I could post from various psychics.

Wrong. The reason (not main reason, only reason) some don't accept psychics is that there is no convincing evidence that they have the abilities they claim, and plenty of convincing evidence that they don't. Psychics are either deluded or liars.
Skeptics do not 'try to attach the supernatural to psychic ability' (whatever that means). Of course if psychic ability existed it would occur naturally, just like sight and hearing. But it doesn't exist. Nothing at all to do with supernatural.


No doubt you could post hundreds of cases from various psychics, but none would be convincing, if the one example you have given is anything to go by.
So please don't.
 
If we were to use the standard that some advocate on this board, we might as well not look into virtual particles, dark matter, dark energy, M-Theory, string theory, quantum loop gravity, extra dimensions, inflation theory, black holes, holographic principle, parallel universes and more. We would have to scrap the whole field of theoretical physics. There's more direct evidence for psychic ability than there is for some of these things.

Again, psychic ability occurs naturally and we survive death naturally. Let me just give you one example. Here's a description of a documentary featuring psychic Kay Rhea.

Hosted by actress-turned-newscaster Andrea Thompson, this cable TV documentary detailed actual stories of psychics working hand in glove with law-enforcement officials to solve tough missing persons cases. Specifically, the special focused on Kay Rhea, a lifelong psychic, and Tim McFadden, a detective with the Fresno Police Department. Having collaborated professionally for 20 years, Rhea and McFadden are credited with solving scores of grim and baffling murder mysteries -- or at the very least, are given points for locating the bodies of the murder victims.

Here's more of just one of Kay Rhea's cases:

In 1989, Rachel Lombera was murdered in her apartment in Selma, California. She was beaten to death with a boombox and a chair. The police investigated the scene, and found no evidence of forced entry. Rachel new her killer and willingly let the person inside. The police found fingerprints but were never able to match them to a suspect.
She was last scene at a local bar dancing with a man the night before her murder. A witness was able to provide the police with a composite sketch of the man. The sketch was publicised, but the leads that came into the police were all dead ends.

Rachel's family convinced the police to seek the help of a psychic. The police called psychic Kay Rhea. Kay only asked for a photograph of Rachel, nothing more. From the photograph, she was able to determine that the suspect worked in a "big factory," and was also romanticaly linked to Rachel. Kay called a sketch artist friend and was able to provide a sketch of her own.

The police were skeptical, and set the sketch aside. Twelve years pass. In 2002, the unsolved case was given to Detectives Brandon Shoemaker and Gary Gass.

While looking through the case file, the dectectives find Kay's sketch and decide to contact her. Kay remembers the case, and tells them that the suspect has left the area and is probably somewhere south, like San Diego or San Bernadino. The detectives decide to publisize Kay's sketch, and two months later they get a break in the case. They recieved a tip about a man who used to live in Selma who matches Kay's sketch. As the detectives investigate their new suspect, they discover that he worked at the same plant as Rachel, and moved to San Diego shortly after the murder. They interrogate him, and he admits to the crime.

Kay Rhea also said he killed her because she was about to spill the beans. When he admitted to the crime he said he killed her because she threatened to tell his wife about their affair.

The article even contacted a skeptical police officer and this is what he said:

We tried to contact Detective Shoemaker, which was a task in itself. After being redirected several times, We finally talked to a secratary who said that he was currently serving in Iraq. However, she gave me the number of his partner, Detective Gass.

We first asked Detective Gass if he believed in psychics, and he told us he did not. We asked him about how Kay could have easily rationalized that the suspect was "angry" while killing Rachel, due to the fact that he beat her to death with a boombox and a chair. He told us that "she could have easily guessed that he was angry, it wasn't something new to us."

However, the thing that stunned him was the sketch. When we asked him about the sketch, he said, "Damn, if it wasn't just so close." He said that it was "scary". He told us that he had no idea how Kay could have gotten that information so accuretly. He went on to talk about the purpose of sketches, that they were used to "eliminate everyone else." Kay's sketch wasn't used like that, it was a direct hit. We finally asked him if they could have solved the case without Kay, and he told us that, "without using the psychic, we probably would have never solved the case."

This is from a skeptic.

The main reason why some don't accept psychics is becaused skeptics try to attach the supernatural to psychic ability when psychic ability occurs naturally.

This is a no brainer and this is just one case out of hundreds I could post from various psychics.

Excellent post. Let's check this out. If we can confirm the details of this case it will be a major breakthrough. On the other hand, if it turns out that this documentary was just a bunch of lies, what will you say then?
 
Not even money? Here's Kay and another sketch:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW0CbKueesA

Pretty convincing video

The article polomatana quotes from ends with...

Some info on Kay Rhea

Kay Rhea calls herself a "Parapsychologist," "Intuitive Counselor," and "Psychic Detective." She claims to be able to help with relationships, business, and crime solving. She charges 150$ an hour, and tapes all sessions. All she asks is for photographs. When she is out solving crimes for the police, she charges 300$ per session.


Sounds more like an add for her parasitic services than news. The only non-sponsored article I found was this
http://www.newzcentral.com/articles/2003/12/10/front/weekly_selma.txt
Surprisingly the newspaper article doesn't mention the amazing Kay Rhea's contribution.

I love the Internet, a place where you can research a bull**** statement about an event that happened years ago and miles away and debunk it in a minute without leaving the comfort of your favorite chair.

Let's debunk one more -- pick the best of the hundreds you have to pick from polomontana.
 
Tres pathetique'! Muy malo! Bunk!
But a poor try, at least!
And there is neither direct or indirect EVIDENCE for psychic phenomena that has held up to actual investigation (there is, at the very least, evidence for the physics topics you mentioned from mathematics - mathematics that apply to things already seen/prove that imply/directly lead to the concepts you listed). Not even any kind of math indicates psychic function.
 
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It's well known that we survive death naturally it's just not widely accepted because people have a vested interest in death after death.
How can it be well known and not widely accepted at the same time?

And do you really suppose there are more people who do not believe in the after life than do?

I think people resist psychic ability because of the implications of life after death and this threatens ones belief system. So they call psychic ability something that's supernatural when it's something that occurs naturally.


Why would anyone have a vested interest in death after death? I don't believe in life after death. But I certainly wish it would happen that way. I doubt any humans would not.
 
Except that I was trying to find out more information on that case specifically and from as non-biased a source as possible. Searching under her name pulls up a heck of a lot of junk unrelated to the case in question.



I understand. I was looking for the same. Until I discovered her true full name, there weren't many hits at all. Now after searching using "Kathlyn", I still only found the same references already mentioned. I thought there may be more. I quit after a while because of the repetition.
 
The more I read about this, the less there seems to it. Rachel Lombera was having an affair with a man who happened to be married and an alcoholic with a history of violence and blackouts. He told her he wanted to break off the affair; they quarreled; he brutally beat her to death and had no memory of the event.

A witness saw them dancing together at a bar and provided a sketch. Nothing came of it.

Rhea also provided a sketch. But the sketch of the top suspect was already known to her.

Rhea says he worked "in a big factory." The victim worked in a big factory.

Rheas says they were romantically linked. This was evident from the eyewitness statement.

Rhea says the suspect was angry. Hell yes he was angry. Her teeth flew all over the room when he hit her.

Rhea says he killed her because she "was about to spill the beans." Technically, this is not true. He killed her during a fight of which he has no memory. "Spilling the beans" is a pretty vague claim as well.

Years later, Rhea says the suspect is probably "somewhere south, like San Diego or San Bernadino."

To evaluate this I'd like to know some things. First, how many things did she say that turned out to be false? All of her statements are plausible, yet too vague to be useful. Typically psychics throw out hundreds of plausible sounding statements and only mention the hits.

I'd like to see the original sketch based on the eyewitness account, the sketch provided by Rhea, and the suspect. I'd like to show both sketches to some people and ask them which is closer to the suspect, if one is "uncanny" and the other is just close, and which one is which.

I'd like to know what this tip that cracked the case actually was. I suspect someone saw it who knew the killer and knew where he worked but never thought to connect him to Rhea's murder until he or she saw that there was a suspect.

Why did the police not show the sketches to Rhea's coworkers in 1989? Did none of them suspect that Rhea was having an affair with a married coworker?

So unless and until we get more details this case looks pretty non-psychic to me.
 
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I understand. I was looking for the same. Until I discovered her true full name, there weren't many hits at all. Now after searching using "Kathlyn", I still only found the same references already mentioned. I thought there may be more. I quit after a while because of the repetition.


Thanks for the link, though. I should have said that earlier. :)
 

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