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Psychic Detectives are real

If I were a con artist, and I was trying to pretend that I had psychic powers and that I could help the police solve crimes, that is the EXACT sort of case I would latch onto. The details of the case and a sketch were already common knowledge. So much time had passed that it would be difficult for anyone to remember what if any information the so-called psychic had shared with police. I'm make sure to publish all of my claims about the case AFTER the case had been solved.

Yeah, that's just how I'd do it.
 
Psychic ability could be related to the firing of synapse.

And psychic ability could be related to fairy dust. The amount of evidence in support of your theory is equal to the amount of evidence in favor of my theory. There is no evidence for either one.


Because of the uncertainty principle a percentage of adults synapses will not fully degrade and these people are more aware than the average adult while still being self aware. These people are psychic. I think this is just one avenue that can be explored.

Please don't steal words and phrases from atomic physics and misuse them. We already have a lot of that around here and it really doesn't help your case.
 
First the case was covered on the show Psychic Detective. The police were on the show vouching for Kay Rhea. I also believe it was on an episode of Larry King Live as well.

The first sketch was found to be innacurate because the key witness admitted he was drunk at the time. This is why the new detective asked the Chief of police could he use Kay's photo on the news. The detective and the police Chief were on the show and they vouched for the psychic (but I guess they are both either stupid or lying). They showed both drawings and they were completely different. They even held up Kay's sketch next to the suspect when he was caught and you can see why the sketch was a direct hit as the skeptical police officer said.

The criminal admitted to killing her because she was about to "spill the beans" to his wife about their affair. Kay said they worked together in a big factory, they did. She said they were romantically involved, they were. She said he moved south to San Diego or San Bernadina, he did he moved to San Diego after the murder. You can go to Court TV's website and read the description of the show, it was called a portrait of the past. If you catch the reruns on weekends you may see the show.

At some point you have to be a freethinker instead of a closed minded skeptics. Some skeptics are dogmatic about their skepticism and they "believe" psychic ability is not possible no matter how illogical they may sound. This is just one case and I can post many more but this one case seems like a handful all by itself.
 
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And some people believe that reenactments on a show called Psychic Detectives are equal to peer-reviewed studies, and that Larry King Live! is the go-to spot for accurate information.
 
How can it be well known and not widely accepted at the same time?
I think that combination is possible, especially if you segment the population a bit. Consider evolution. I consider it well known. And yet polls in the USA indicated that it is not widely accepted.
 
You need at least 15 posts to show links. Just go to Court TV website and under TV shows go to Psychic Detectives and each show has a description. Look for the show Portraits of the Past.

Here's the description of the show from their website:

"Portrait of the Past"

After 13 years, a cold case is reopened by an eager young detective. The file contains two composite sketches which look nothing alike – one given by an eyewitness, the other taken from the visions of psychic Kay Rhea. Could one of them lead to the truth? TV-14
 
I don't think this show is going to convince anyone on this forum. So...there's no point of posting anything more about it. Really. Maybe if you had some actual evidence no one has seen or heard of, then your stay here may be worthwhile. Otherwise, you are just repeating yourself.
 
And some people believe that reenactments on a show called Psychic Detectives are equal to peer-reviewed studies, and that Larry King Live! is the go-to spot for accurate information.
"Reenactment shows" hire actors, and are known to fuge the truth to improve ratings. Larry King's show is a known forum for woo-based con artists.

When you're presenting something that seems pretty incredible, you've got to provide better evidence than "She says so! And I think she might have been on TV sometime?"
 
First the case was covered on the show Psychic Detective. The police were on the show vouching for Kay Rhea. I also believe it was on an episode of Larry King Live as well.

Unfortunately, the TV show Psychic Detectives is not a reliable source of information. It's a disturbing fact, but they lie. They do it to increase ratings.

The first sketch was found to be innacurate because the key witness admitted he was drunk at the time. This is why the new detective asked the Chief of police could he use Kay's photo on the news. The detective and the police Chief were on the show and they vouched for the psychic (but I guess they are both either stupid or lying). They showed both drawings and they were completely different. They even held up Kay's sketch next to the suspect when he was caught and you can see why the sketch was a direct hit as the skeptical police officer said.

I'd like to see this confirmed by the simple test of showing the two sketches and several photographs of the suspect to persons who do not know which sketch is which. I'd like to see if the sketches are really completely different, and see which one is closer.

The criminal admitted to killing her because she was about to "spill the beans" to his wife about their affair. Kay said they worked together in a big factory, they did. She said they were romantically involved, they were. She said he moved south to San Diego or San Bernadina, he did he moved to San Diego after the murder. You can go to Court TV's website and read the description of the show, it was called a portrait of the past. If you catch the reruns on weekends you may see the show

All these are reasonable guesses, or were already known. It was obvious that she was romantically involved with the killer. She was half-naked, and there were no signs of sexual violence. They had been seen together in a bar.

She worked in a factory. She could have been dating a stock broker, but the guess about dating a factory worker is the most likely hit, so that was Rhea's guess.

As I said before, you can only evaluate the quality of her guesses by looking at all of her guesses. A vague claim like "he moved south" has a one in four chance of being true. Did she make three similarly vague claims that turned out to be false? Did she make other claims that were likely but false?

And she was not about to "spill the beans." He wanted to break off the affair and she threatened to tell his wife. (Of course he also claims to have no memory of the crime, which contradicts this claim.) That is close to spilling beans, but I would not choose the term spilling beans for threatening to call the wife during a violent fight. "Spilling the beans" sounds more like telling someone that they were committing fraud together or something like that.

At some point you have to be a freethinker instead of a closed minded skeptics. Some skeptics are dogmatic about their skepticism and they "believe" psychic ability is not possible no matter how illogical they may sound. This is just one case and I can post many more but this one case seems like a handful all by itself.

Skeptics are not close-minded. It's a contradiction in terms. Some people are dogmatic about their non-belief in psychic ability but they are not skeptics. Skeptics have looked at the overwhelming non-evidence for psychic ability and decided that it almost certainly does not exist, based on the evidence. So far this case appears to be poor evidence for psychic ability.

I'll check out the Court TV information, thanks for that.
 
Case Closed so far. In order to deny this case you would have to say the Police Chief and the Detective that worked the case are stupid and only the skeptic's 3rd party heresay can gleam the truth.

This clearly shows how skepticism can be dogmatic just like some who are dogmatic about religious beliefs. There's no counter evidence to these claims except a skeptics opinion. The Police Chief, the Detective and even the skeptical detective vouch for the psychic. Keep plugging away :).
 
Case Closed so far. In order to deny this case you would have to say the Police Chief and the Detective that worked the case are stupid and only the skeptic's 3rd party heresay can gleam the truth.

This clearly shows how skepticism can be dogmatic just like some who are dogmatic about religious beliefs. There's no counter evidence to these claims except a skeptics opinion. The Police Chief, the Detective and even the skeptical detective vouch for the psychic. Keep plugging away :).
Still waiting for the links.

In the meanwhile, you can believe what you like. You aren't being open-minded, though. Your mind is, apparently, 100% completely closed.
 
So I went to Court TV's website and found the "Portrait of the Past" episode. This is what I found:

After 13 years, a cold case is reopened by an eager young detective. The file contains two composite sketches which look nothing alike – one given by an eyewitness, the other taken from the visions of psychic Kay Rhea. Could one of them lead to the truth? TV-14


That's it.

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This clearly shows how skepticism can be dogmatic

You say the evidence leads to the conclusion that psychic detectives are real. We say the evidence leads us to believe psychic detectives have no special powers. Therefore we are each evaluating the evidence differently.

Perhaps we can have a discussion about evaluating evidence.
How do you determine which evidence is worth of credence and which is not?
 
Case Closed so far. In order to deny this case you would have to say the Police Chief and the Detective that worked the case are stupid and only the skeptic's 3rd party heresay can gleam the truth.

This clearly shows how skepticism can be dogmatic just like some who are dogmatic about religious beliefs. There's no counter evidence to these claims except a skeptics opinion. The Police Chief, the Detective and even the skeptical detective vouch for the psychic. Keep plugging away :).


Sorry you see it this way, but to ask people to believe that this psychic is credible based upon what you have presented so far is at least premature. As for the law enforcement officials you say were on the show, if that has been their only contact with a "psychic", then perhaps they were impressed. You are presenting your claim here to people who are familiar with quite the opposite of your beliefs. Maybe you will have more to offer when you have your link privileges.
 
Case Closed so far. In order to deny this case you would have to say the Police Chief and the Detective that worked the case are stupid and only the skeptic's 3rd party heresay can gleam the truth.

This clearly shows how skepticism can be dogmatic just like some who are dogmatic about religious beliefs. There's no counter evidence to these claims except a skeptics opinion. The Police Chief, the Detective and even the skeptical detective vouch for the psychic. Keep plugging away :).

Psychic Detectives is a show. It's entertainment. It means nothing. It's kaka. What you need to prove psychic ability is a scientifically controlled test, without an announcer, or any reenactments and with some sort of evidence that isn't strictly anecdotal.
 
Ladewig,

It's not about evaluating the evidence because we don't start from the same place. I start with the Police Chief, the cold case detective and the skeptical detective who vouch for the psychic and the skeptic starts with just his or her opinion. The police involved will say the psychic told them a,b and c and it helped the investigation but the skeptic will say it didn't help the detective based on his or her skeptical belief. The skeptic has to bring something else to the table beside their opinion. So I'm not going to suspend reason and believe the skeptic. They start with zero evidence and I start with the words of the men and women who were investigating the crimes.
 
Ladewig,

It's not about evaluating the evidence because we don't start from the same place. I start with the Police Chief, the cold case detective and the skeptical detective who vouch for the psychic and the skeptic starts with just his or her opinion. The police involved will say the psychic told them a,b and c and it helped the investigation but the skeptic will say it didn't help the detective based on his or her skeptical belief. The skeptic has to bring something else to the table beside their opinion. So I'm not going to suspend reason and believe the skeptic. They start with zero evidence and I start with the words of the men and women who were investigating the crimes.

No, you start with the TV show and its clear bias. And, that's also where you end. You are not skeptical or open-minded at all.
 

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