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Psychic Detectives are real

Yes, I think Oprah is perfect. If anyone is open to the possibilities of incoherent quantum somethingorother, she is. I strongly urge Tim and Polo to get started on it.
 
CLD said:
Skeptic Guy, I suggested Tim4848 and Polomontana get together since they both seem to share similar, er, ideas. Sort of a "Woo-Off".
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I think we should invite Malcolm Kirkman and Buzz Lightyear as well. I wonder how much woo is required to rupture the fabric of the space-time continuum?
 
I think this quote from a survey among the 50 largest PDs in the US speaks volumes:
Fort Worth: Thomas C. Swan, Homicide Lieutenant: "I have been Homicide Lieutenant for 7 years and know of no time that 'a psychic has been of any value other than offering false hope to survivors. They surface on sensational cases only. Most fit a mold. They tell you they are 85-percent accurate and are very defensive when you ask them for specifics. It doesn't take long for them to reach the victims' relatives and generate false hope. I would never, no matter what the cost, rely upon a psychic other than to process info the same as we do for everyone else. Where are these psychics when a wino is found murdered in an alley?"
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85%, where have I heard a similar figure before? :rolleyes:
 
I see the skeptic is still stumped on this thread.

Skepticism shouldn't be used as a crutch to protect your pre-existing belief system. Skepticism is used to help lead you to the truth.

Alot of skeptics are really PSEUDO - SKEPTICS and they give skepticism a bad name!!
 
Over half a year and nearly 500 posts and still nothing but unsupported claim.

A lot of believers are really pseudo skeptics, and the volume of their false claims at skepticism is proportional to the amount of evidence they have had to deny in order to cling to their beliefs.
 
polomontana said:
I see the skeptic is still stumped on this thread.

Skepticism shouldn't be used as a crutch to protect your pre-existing belief system. Skepticism is used to help lead you to the truth.

Alot of skeptics are really PSEUDO - SKEPTICS and they give skepticism a bad name!!
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I do not think we read the same thread.... Because I apparently come to conclusion opposite to yours.
 
This is the most entertaining thread ever.Poco-whatever-his-name-is should think about turning pro.He has a great future in comedy.
 
im open to psychic" abilites existing but i still feel it would be wrong for a psychic to try to help the police in a investigation no need to waste there time
 
polomontana said:
I see the skeptic is still stumped on this thread.

Skepticism shouldn't be used as a crutch to protect your pre-existing belief system. Skepticism is used to help lead you to the truth.

Alot of skeptics are really PSEUDO - SKEPTICS and they give skepticism a bad name!!
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You give cretinism a bad name.
 
To believe the skeptic, you would have to suspend all reason.:cool:


Welcome to the forum!
To look at this statement alone when no psychic or meduim has ever proven or are ever willing to prove their ability seems to be suspending reason. If all you have to do is prove your claimed ability then this should be a very easy thing to do and there shouldn't be any problems! So with this being very very simple can you explain to us why none of these psychics or mediums have ever been able to prove this ability.

You speak of John Edwards and here is one of the biggest and most blatant of frauds. Sylvia Browns fraudelent activities are well documented has is the case with all people that claim this ability. If their not decieving others then their deceiving themselves.

If you really believe that the psychic, medium, paranormal is the reality then your deceiving yourself. I stand here and simply say if these people have this ability then they should be able to prove it once and for all. But from what I see your basing all the evidence that convinced you this is all real and it is actually true on TV shows. You need to think about what your seeing because it isn't reality.:crowded:
 
To believe the skeptic, you would have to suspend all reason.:cool:


Welcome to the forum!
To look at this statement alone when no psychic or meduim has ever proven or are ever willing to prove their ability seems to be suspending reason. If all you have to do is prove your claimed ability then this should be a very easy thing to do and there shouldn't be any problems! So with this being very very simple can you explain to us why none of these psychics or mediums have ever been able to prove this ability.

You speak of John Edwards and here is one of the biggest and most blatant of frauds. Sylvia Browns fraudelent activities are well documented has is the case with all people that claim this ability. If their not decieving others then their deceiving themselves.

If you really believe that the psychic, medium, paranormal is the reality then your deceiving yourself. I stand here and simply say if these people have this ability then they should be able to prove it once and for all. But from what I see your basing all the evidence that convinced you this is all real and it is actually true on TV shows. You need to think about what your seeing because it isn't reality.:boggled:
 
polomontana said:
If we were to use the standard that some advocate on this board, we might as well not look into virtual particles, dark matter, dark energy, M-Theory, string theory, quantum loop gravity, extra dimensions, inflation theory, black holes, holographic principle, parallel universes and more. We would have to scrap the whole field of theoretical physics. There's more direct evidence for psychic ability than there is for some of these things.

Again, psychic ability occurs naturally and we survive death naturally. Let me just give you one example. Here's a description of a documentary featuring psychic Kay Rhea.

Hosted by actress-turned-newscaster Andrea Thompson, this cable TV documentary detailed actual stories of psychics working hand in glove with law-enforcement officials to solve tough missing persons cases. Specifically, the special focused on Kay Rhea, a lifelong psychic, and Tim McFadden, a detective with the Fresno Police Department. Having collaborated professionally for 20 years, Rhea and McFadden are credited with solving scores of grim and baffling murder mysteries -- or at the very least, are given points for locating the bodies of the murder victims.

Here's more of just one of Kay Rhea's cases:

In 1989, Rachel Lombera was murdered in her apartment in Selma, California. She was beaten to death with a boombox and a chair. The police investigated the scene, and found no evidence of forced entry. Rachel new her killer and willingly let the person inside. The police found fingerprints but were never able to match them to a suspect.
She was last scene at a local bar dancing with a man the night before her murder. A witness was able to provide the police with a composite sketch of the man. The sketch was publicised, but the leads that came into the police were all dead ends.

Rachel's family convinced the police to seek the help of a psychic. The police called psychic Kay Rhea. Kay only asked for a photograph of Rachel, nothing more. From the photograph, she was able to determine that the suspect worked in a "big factory," and was also romanticaly linked to Rachel. Kay called a sketch artist friend and was able to provide a sketch of her own.

The police were skeptical, and set the sketch aside. Twelve years pass. In 2002, the unsolved case was given to Detectives Brandon Shoemaker and Gary Gass.

While looking through the case file, the dectectives find Kay's sketch and decide to contact her. Kay remembers the case, and tells them that the suspect has left the area and is probably somewhere south, like San Diego or San Bernadino. The detectives decide to publisize Kay's sketch, and two months later they get a break in the case. They recieved a tip about a man who used to live in Selma who matches Kay's sketch. As the detectives investigate their new suspect, they discover that he worked at the same plant as Rachel, and moved to San Diego shortly after the murder. They interrogate him, and he admits to the crime.

Kay Rhea also said he killed her because she was about to spill the beans. When he admitted to the crime he said he killed her because she threatened to tell his wife about their affair.

The article even contacted a skeptical police officer and this is what he said:

We tried to contact Detective Shoemaker, which was a task in itself. After being redirected several times, We finally talked to a secratary who said that he was currently serving in Iraq. However, she gave me the number of his partner, Detective Gass.

We first asked Detective Gass if he believed in psychics, and he told us he did not. We asked him about how Kay could have easily rationalized that the suspect was "angry" while killing Rachel, due to the fact that he beat her to death with a boombox and a chair. He told us that "she could have easily guessed that he was angry, it wasn't something new to us."

However, the thing that stunned him was the sketch. When we asked him about the sketch, he said, "Damn, if it wasn't just so close." He said that it was "scary". He told us that he had no idea how Kay could have gotten that information so accuretly. He went on to talk about the purpose of sketches, that they were used to "eliminate everyone else." Kay's sketch wasn't used like that, it was a direct hit. We finally asked him if they could have solved the case without Kay, and he told us that, "without using the psychic, we probably would have never solved the case."

This is from a skeptic.

The main reason why some don't accept psychics is becaused skeptics try to attach the supernatural to psychic ability when psychic ability occurs naturally.

This is a no brainer and this is just one case out of hundreds I could post from various psychics.
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May you should read this and learn why your wrong!

http://voice4themissing.blogspot.com/2006_03_01_archive.html
 
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