Plume in Flight 93 photo is different

Is the plume in this photo from Flight 93 crashing?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 129 90.8%

  • No.

    Votes: 13 9.2%
  • Total voters
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I guess we'll move on to the plume color. If anybody highly objects to the estimates so far, we can go back and address them.

First, I've been told the fireball 93 made was different because of the speed it crashed. Will this make a difference in the plume color from the onset?

I made two sample explosion pics to try to compare how 93's fireball would have reacted:

b52collagepx2.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB92iQ6yf6c

b52moabfc3.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7tG7keSe-0

This first pic is from the B-52 crashing at a slow speed where I'm told the fireball "spills" out.

The 2nd pic is from a MOAB. Even though this explosion is from a bomb blast, is this explosion more characteristic of how 93's might have been?

Notice that the MOAB blast DOES leave a plume color similar to Val's plume.
 
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Killtown said:
We are testing out the "official theory" here that Val's plume is from Flight 93 crashing at the reported spot.

Anybody who doesn't wish to participate is free to not post here.
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Nah, we're criticizing your ability to prove it's a fake photo. Most have not taken a stance as to if it's real or not. In fact MOST of the criticism here has been constructive criticism that if you actually followed might actually prove your point. But you'll never know that.
 
Killtown, why haven't you answered Mercutio's questions, and why haven't you apologized to Val McClatchey?
 
Killtown said:
I guess we'll move on to the plume color. If anybody highly objects to the estimates so far, we can go back and address them.

The 2nd pic is from a MOAB. Even though this explosion is from a bomb blast, is this explosion more characteristic of how 93's might have been?
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How much Jet B was carried in the MOAB?
 
Gravy said:
Killtown, why haven't you answered Mercutio's questions, and why haven't you apologized to Val McClatchey?
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We haven't finished the experiment yet.

We are on the subject of the plume color now. Feel free to contribute your thoughts.
 
Now that Killtime has (hopefully) put me on Ignore, I'd like to ask a question that might actually get answered: is anybody following this? What's the deal with his "experiment," and what if anything is he trying to prove? Is he trying to get people to commit to some numbers so he can shoot them down? Or is he just off in his own little playpen somewhere? (I've read all the posts here, and to be honest, I can't figure out what he's trying to do.)
 
Stellafane said:
Now that Killtime has (hopefully) put me on Ignore, I'd like to ask a question that might actually get answered: is anybody following this? What's the deal with his "experiment," and what if anything is he trying to prove? Is he trying to get people to commit to some numbers so he can shoot them down? Or is he just off in his own little playpen somewhere? (I've read all the posts here, and to be honest, I can't figure out what he's trying to do.)
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I really don't know, nor do I care at this point. I believe he's trying to pin us to some numbers, so when he gets an answer that varies by 10% or 25% he can scream "See, you're wrong!!11!!eleventy-one!!"

Of course, ignoring the several pages wherein we tried to explain to him that his numbers are, at best, guesstimates and you can't really reach any meaningful answers that way (at best a range of values).
 
Once again:

Mercutio said:
You asked for us to stay on the topic of your "experiment". That which you characterized as "whining" was a methodological criticism of your "experiment".

Did you at least understand my "whining" criticism? Do you see why it is a lie to post on your website that you have calculated your results, when in fact you have not?

So...are you treating this as an actual experiment?
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Killtown, you make allegations and and insinuations on your website that are not supported by any evidence you have provided. You have both stated and shown that you do not know how to prove or disprove your claims, despite all the help you've had here.

Without basis, you have disparaged people who were affected by 9/11. Only you have the power to make amends.

No more hiding from your actions, Killtown. You've treated people badly for no reason. Stop this childish behavior and face your responsibilities as a man.

Will you now withdraw your comments, allegations and insinuations about Val McClatchey and apologize to her?

Don't give us more excuses. Just do it. Will you? Yes or no?
 
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No more hiding from your actions, Killtown. You've treated people badly for no reason. Stop this childish behavior and face your responsibilities as a man.
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K Clown has not once shown that ability! I am not sure that claiming him a male, is quite clear. I see a juvey, fem at best. Not to knock females! He shows your intel, up to a point. Goes off on hysteria! I think we all know where that is from, and ends up! Stop give'n humor to this Clown! I' have said this too much, sorry! DONE! Page 37 for C's sake, read the circular joke, that it is!
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Gravy said:
Once again:

Killtown, you make allegations and and insinuations on your website that are not supported by any evidence you have provided. You have both stated and shown that you do not know how to prove or disprove your claims, despite all the help you've had here.

Without basis, you have disparaged people who were affected by 9/11. Only you have the power to make amends.

No more hiding from your actions, Killtown. You've treated people badly for no reason. Stop this childish behavior and face your responsibilities as a man.

Will you now withdraw your comments, allegations and insinuations about Val McClatchey and apologize to her?

Don't give us more excuses. Just do it. Will you? Yes or no?
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We haven't finished the experiment yet.

We are on the subject of the plume color now. Feel free to contribute your thoughts.

Thanks for participating.
 
Once again:

Gravy said:
Killtown, you make allegations and and insinuations on your website that are not supported by any evidence you have provided. You have both stated and shown that you do not know how to prove or disprove your claims, despite all the help you've had here.

Without basis, you have disparaged people who were affected by 9/11. Only you have the power to make amends.

No more hiding from your actions, Killtown. You've treated people badly for no reason. Stop this childish behavior and face your responsibilities as a man.

Will you now withdraw your comments, allegations and insinuations about Val McClatchey and apologize to her?

Don't give us more excuses. Just do it. Will you? Yes or no?
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Gravy,

We haven't finished the experiment yet.

We are on the subject of the plume color now. Feel free to contribute your thoughts.

Thanks for participating.
 
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