One Million Rupees Offer to prove "Homeopathy is Paranormal"

[Qureshi1_78]

Oh, yes we can. We do. Watch me do it.

Homeopaths are quacks. That is what they are. Some are amateur quacks. Some do it for money. Some have gone on pointless courses that hand out pretty certficates. The thing they have in common is that they are quacks.

I hope that has cleared up the confusion.

I will wait for the same reply from DARAT.

 

[Darat]

Yes, you misunderstand simple things so easily, being the reason you have some difficulty in understanding very fair contents of the posts.

First, You bound homeoman not to post such type of pictures again otherwise he will face more restriction and Zep is demanding to send more pictures of the same type again compeling him to violate that restriction rule.

Thanks for the explanation; it has helped me understand your mistake.

 

[Rolfe]

First, You bound homeoman not to post such type of pictures again otherwise he will face more restriction and Zep is demanding to send more pictures of the same type again compeling him to violate that restriction rule.

Get with the rules. Qureshi. You quoted Zep's exact words, so you know very well he did not ask Homeo Man to post more pictures.

Excellent! So you will be able to post LINKS to these pictures right here, right now?

Zep asked for LINKS to the pictures. Which is allowed. What Darat censured Homeo Man for doing was displaying the actual pictures in the thread. He removed these images, and substituted LINKS to them. Just as Zep requested LINKS to the rest of the set.

Now that we've got that cleared up, would you like to start explaining how homoeopathy works? Preferably at 30C, but if that's too hard for you, then by all means start with 6X. Since none of your friends seems to be able to do it.

Rolfe.

 

[Darat]

When you say "Homeopath" then you can't say "quack". In a single sigh you are saying "homeopath" and in the same sigh you are calling them "quack". I think you need some rest after doing hard job of administration. How can you say that person is homeopath and quack too at the same time?

In Pakistan, one person can only do homeo practice when he gets four year of certification of DHMS or BHMS. Without DHMS he cannot do practice. It is in USA, UK and Other countries, non-qualified homeopaths are doing homeopathic practice but not in Pakistan.

About "Newspaper" articles? do you believe everything publishes in newspapers are correct? If "yes" then may i show few more articles on allopathy?

Thanks for you opinion.

However from the evidence I do have I consider Dr Aziz Khan Tank, Dr Shershah Syed and Malik Faisal to be more reliable sources then you regarding this matter. So I will let myself be led by the evidence and conclude that there are many homeopaths in Pakistan that are quacks.

 

[Qureshi1_78]

Thanks for the explanation; it has helped me understand your mistake.

Obviously, If I will not teach you then who will teach you?

 

[Qureshi1_78]

Get with the rules. Qureshi. You quoted Zep's exact words, so you know very well he did not ask Homeo Man to post more pictures.Zep asked for LINKS to the pictures. Which is allowed.

Rolfe.

Do you mean, if a picture is not allowed at this forum, we can post the link of that picture? Oh my God, how stupid this rule is?

Do you mean, I can post commercial sites link at this forum? or under my signature even though that commercial site is not allowed?

 

[Qureshi1_78]

Thanks for you opinion.

However from the evidence I do have I consider Dr Aziz Khan Tank, Dr Shershah Syed and Malik Faisal to be more reliable sources then you regarding this matter. So I will let myself be led by the evidence and conclude that there are many homeopaths in Pakistan that are quacks.

In my opinion, you have no idea about Pakistan and Pakistani way of practice. Your entire knowledge is based on bogus internet articles. You have no idea what is in the bottom because you have no practical experience of Pakistani infra structure.

Not a single homeopath in Pakistan is quack, however there are few allopaths who are quacks. I will give you ten cents if you name a single quack "homeopathic" doctor.

 

[Rolfe]

Do you mean, if a picture is not allowed at this forum, we can post the link of that picture? Oh my God, how stupid this rule is?

Tough cheddar. That's the rule, whether you think it's stupid or not.

Do you mean, I can post commercial sites link at this forum? or under my signature even though that commercial site is not allowed?

If you want to know the rules, why don't you go and read them?

And while we're at it, what about the part of my post you didn't quote?

Now that we've got that cleared up, would you like to start explaining how homoeopathy works? Preferably at 30C, but if that's too hard for you, then by all means start with 6X. Since none of your friends seems to be able to do it.

Otherwise I'll start to suspect that you really don't know.

Rolfe.

 

[Rolfe]

Just to drag this thread kicking and screaming back on topic, Qureshi has said in another thread that the million rupees offer is actually an offer to prove that homoeopathy does not work.

Would Mas or someone in a position of authority confirm this? And then, would they specify the level of proof required? Specifically, does previously published research count?

Rolfe.

 

[Bronze Dog]

Tough cheddar. That's the rule, whether you think it's stupid or not.If you want to know the rules, why don't you go and read them?

Rolfe.

I think it's a rather intelligent rule (as I suspect Rolfe does). A person can choose not to click the link. I was there for the opening post, and I'm rather squeamish, sometimes. I would have greatly preferred not to have seen it.

Additional point: Posting it was pointless, since it represented an effort to try and sway people by horrific anecdote, rather than evidence.

 

[EHocking]

In my opinion, you have no idea about Pakistan and Pakistani way of practice. Your entire knowledge is based on bogus internet articles. You have no idea what is in the bottom because you have no practical experience of Pakistani infra structure.

Not a single homeopath in Pakistan is quack, however there are few allopaths who are quacks. I will give you ten cents if you name a single quack "homeopathic" doctor.

Thanks for the PMA link, here's what the Pakistan Medical Association has to say about homeopathetics:

PMA View point on various Health Care Issues and Problems facing Medical Profession.
Integration of different Systems of Medicine:
Pakistan Medical Association do not favour the unchecked practice and proliferation of called other methods of treatment like Homeopathic, Ayurbedic and Unani Systems. The knowledge of human anatomy, physiology, pathology, biochemistry and pharmacology, etc. has been established through continuous research and education. The medical profession is strongly opposed to place them at far with scientific medicine.

 

[Mojo]

In Pakistan, one person can only do homeo practice when he gets four year of certification of DHMS or BHMS. Without DHMS he cannot do practice. It is in USA, UK and Other countries, non-qualified homeopaths are doing homeopathic practice but not in Pakistan.

Interesting that you should bring this up. You have also posted (here) that "Dr." MAS does not really have a PhD but is only pretending to have one (or more) to try to impress us, and that while he has some sort of "MD" qualification, it is not recognised by the Pakistani authorities.

Posted by Qureshi1_78
He has one or two Ph.D, I can't comment but I know he does not own those degrees.

...snip...

He has done MD but does not own MD because that MD is not acceptable by Higher Education Commission (HEC) which is the ultimate authority to recognize degrees in Pakistan.

Are you really telling us that MAS is a fraud?

 

[wahrheit]

I will wait for the same reply from DARAT.

Just in case you didn't get it: When Darat posts on this forum, it is his post, his opinion, just like anybody else. Only when you see the fancy border around a text it indicates he posted as admin of the board, regarding rules and such.

Oh, and when BSM equals homeopaths to quacks, rest assured he's not alone.

 

[Zep]

Thanks to the others for pointing out the obvious to Mr Qureshi while I slept. I was about to instantly fire off a pointed response, but I held off until I read through the rest of the thread and found that the work had already been done.

And on the way through I noticed that clearly "Qureshi" has no idea what he is talking about, precious little understanding of what he is reading, and is only out to stir the pot of trouble. And the responses and the underlying thought processes are remarkably childish too. Which got me to thinking...again.

I suspect that our good "Doctor Qureshi" is not a "doctor" at all, really. Nor even a homeopath, I suspect. He may be the same person as "Dr MAS" or one of his minions, but right now, I'm envisaging more of an uneducated and unemployed teenager in an internet cafe of some sort. Someone who's idea of a practical joke is pretending he is someone else so he can cause trouble, even though he does it VERY badly. Someone who also leaves posts about penis length on the NCH forum, perhaps... Someone well worth ignoring, anyway.

 

[Mojo]

I suspect that our good "Doctor Qureshi" is not a "doctor" at all, really.

According to Qureshi, "Dr. MAS" may not be a doctor either...

He has one or two Ph.D, I can't comment but I know he does not own those degrees. He just write in the sense that other own such type of degrees at higher level to impress others which are not acceptable in Pakistan just like MD. He has done MD but does not own MD because that MD is not acceptable by Higher Education Commission (HEC) which is the ultimate authority to recognize degrees in Pakistan.

 

[Jeff Corey]

I will give you ten cents if you name a single quack "homeopathic" doctor.

If I am able to name more, will you pay me per capita, as it were?
Suppost I name all, you will owe me many rupees.
But I must first assure myself that you are not a quack who is merely jesting with his $ .1
Send me a PM with your national identity number, Visa 16 digits, mother's married name (if any) and your favorite bolour.
Ta

 

[Terry]

Jeff, were you frightened as a sboolboy by a bat?

--Terry.

 

[Zep]

Jeff, were you frightened as a sboolboy by a bat?

--Terry.

No, he's just being a silly bunt.

 

[Mojo]

No, he's just being a silly bunt.

Three days since the previous post. Does this thread really need bunting?

 

[Zep]

'Twas a joke, sir!