One Million Rupees Offer to prove "Homeopathy is Paranormal"

[Donks]

there's the sophistry i mentioned. everyone knows there is evidence for effictiveness. an hour in a library or ten minutes on google will confirm that. it is simply foolish to claim that homeopathy has been adequately debunked. hard to swallow for many so called skeptics so it seems, but that is the way it is.

How about you take 10 minutes and google up some evidence?

 

[Mojo]

How about you take 10 minutes and google up some evidence?

It's a shame He's been banned. I'd have liked to see him try.

 

[Homeo Man]

BTW, now that we can see the picture in a larger scale, it seems strange that the nose hole is considerably darker than any other dark pixels in the picture. Although I am sure it is not difficult to photograph lepers and disfigured people in Pakistan (in Bangla Desh she would probably have been the victim of an acid attack), I am also of the opinion that somebody has "improved" on the picture in a photo editor!

(Edited for typo)

If you prove that these are manipulated pictures then you can win a prize, which I posted in another thread. The story is also true.

We have so many pictures of this woman from different angles. You prove it and win a prize.

 

[Zep]

We have so many pictures of this woman from different angles. You prove it and win a prize.

Excellent! So you will be able to post LINKS to these pictures right here, right now?

 

[steenkh]

If you prove that these are manipulated pictures then you can win a prize, which I posted in another thread. The story is also true.

We have so many pictures of this woman from different angles. You prove it and win a prize.

Dear Homeo Man,

Although I do not believe your picture is real, or of a real patient of yours, you do not have to publish pictures of disfigured people to convince me that real medicine sometimes go wrong. Just take a look at Michael Jackson's nose, and you know what I mean. It also sometimes goes horribly wrong, and the father of one of my friends was killed just last week by doctors who held on to a wrong diagnosis too long.

But the fact that real treatments sometimes go wrong does in no way mean that the theory is wrong or that the practice is always faulty.

This is in contrast to homoeopathy where the theory is dead wrong and the practice can not heal anything that a good conversation therapy could not heal also.

So what is your point?

 

[MRC_Hans]

If you prove that these are manipulated pictures then you can win a prize, which I posted in another thread. The story is also true.

We have so many pictures of this woman from different angles. You prove it and win a prize.

Uhh, which prize are you talking about? Is it one you have offered? What are the rules for applying? And where do I apply?

Hans

 

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

If you prove that these are manipulated pictures then you can win a prize, which I posted in another thread. The story is also true.

We have so many pictures of this woman from different angles. You prove it and win a prize.

So, why did you photograph her sitting in a public street?

 

[Mojo]

And, as Perpetual Notion has posted in another thread:

Now that the pic has been removed and only the link remains, I find it curious that someone from Pakistan would title a picture of patient "woman4ya.jpg".

 

[Homeo Man]

So, why did you photograph her sitting in a public street?

The civilization in Pakistan is totally different. This woman belongs to PATHAN family. Due to family tradition and restriction, you cannot allow others to take photographs. Photographs were taken through spying camera. Please do not disclose this news to others. Thank you.

I pasted another photo at www.nchpakistan.com discussion board. You can see there. Because this is not allowed here. After so many tries, my assistant focused her face.

 

[Homeo Man]

Hans,

this is another offer. you can directly apply at this forum.

If you agree, then I will ask you few questions to fill up the reg form.

 

[Zep]

The civilization in Pakistan is totally different. This woman belongs to PATHAN family. Due to family tradition and restriction, you cannot allow others to take photographs. Photographs were taken through spying camera. Please do not disclose this news to others. Thank you.

I pasted another photo at www.nchpakistan.com discussion board. You can see there. Because this is not allowed here. After so many tries, my assistant focused her face.

Pathan, hmmm? Well, I wonder what she was doing on the street at all. Read here:

One of the most valued traditional marks of social status in this tribe is the practice 'Purdah' or the seclusion of women from public and social life. Generally men perform the tasks outside the walled dwellings, while women perform the tasks within, going out only to fetch water, fuel, or for a rare social outing in a family function. The Pathan women wear a veil covering them from head to foot on occasions when they go outside the family dwelling to attend family functions such as marriages and funerals, or to visit a relative. However, they remain unveiled inside the family quarters where they live, eat and sleep. There are reports that the women insist on receiving injections through their heavy veils when they visit a doctor. In family functions, men and women are usually segregated, attending separate festivities in different parts of the house. In the larger towns of this province, Pathan women attend higher education and enter professional life in purdah at all times, when they are outside their home. Purdah is thus a central part of the Pathan's life, influencing diverse activities of the society.

http://www.dinf.ne.jp/doc/english/asia/resource/apdrj/z13jo0300/z13jo0308.html

Would you like to try again?

Incidentally, the images seem to show that the woman's head cloth is covered in exactly the same "mud" that she has smeared on her face. And that it looks to be put on in the form of a facial mudpack, not just "street grime". I suspect she is one of the many "professional beggars" who subsist in India and Pakistan. Not that this lessens her plight, but it may clarify the situation somewhat.

Also, a close look at the images seems to suggest some definite enhancement of her disfigurement in the picture. And from image to image, the disfigurement does not seem to match very well. But this is hard to tell accurately - the pictures are small, grainy and blurred. Exactly NOT like a real doctor would try to take of their patients...

 

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Due to family tradition and restriction, you cannot allow others to take photographs. Photographs were taken through spying camera. Please do not disclose this news to others. Thank you.

Very professional of you. Not.

 

[steenkh]

The civilization in Pakistan is totally different. This woman belongs to PATHAN family. Due to family tradition and restriction, you cannot allow others to take photographs. Photographs were taken through spying camera. Please do not disclose this news to others. Thank you.

I pasted another photo at www.nchpakistan.com discussion board. You can see there. Because this is not allowed here. After so many tries, my assistant focused her face.

Even if - and I am not convinced - the story is true, and you have to photograph her surreptitiously through a spy camera, what importance does it have?

In order to prove anything about real medicine, you will not have to rely on anecdotes, but you will have to bring statistical facts. For real medicine there are thousands of research papers that show that real medicine works. For homoeopathy there are none, zero, 0 , nil!

Why do the Pakistani homoeopaths not conduct proper double-blind studies that can silence the criticism instead of relying on anecdotes about how "allopathic" medicine apparently fails all the time, but with only anecdotes to support it, or how homoeopathic medicine apparently works all the time, but again, no studies to support it?

 

[Darat]

The civilization in Pakistan is totally different. This woman belongs to PATHAN family. Due to family tradition and restriction, you cannot allow others to take photographs. Photographs were taken through spying camera. Please do not disclose this news to others. Thank you.

I pasted another photo at www.nchpakistan.com discussion board. You can see there. Because this is not allowed here. After so many tries, my assistant focused her face.

You say you cannot take pictures of the women because of her beliefs. Yet you are willing to take a photograph without her knowledge.

You are then willing without her knowledge to place her photograph here for everyone to see even though you know this is against her beliefs.

You then want to use her image, taken without her permission and knowing it is against her beliefs as your Avatar, which means it would appear on every single one of your posts.

Your actions demonstrate that you are a dishonest and unethical person.

If you were a member of any real medical profession I would report your behaviour to them however since you belong to a group of charlatans who also lie to and cheat sick people of their money I doubt they would consider what you did was a breach of ethics since they must be as morally bankrupt as you are.

 

[Nucular]

The civilization in Pakistan is totally different. This woman belongs to PATHAN family. Due to family tradition and restriction, you cannot allow others to take photographs. Photographs were taken through spying camera. Please do not disclose this news to others. Thank you.

I pasted another photo at www.nchpakistan.com discussion board. You can see there. Because this is not allowed here. After so many tries, my assistant focused her face.

So... you treated a woman, who declined to be photographed. So you followed her outside, secretly photographed her anyway, and put her picture up on the internet.

If you were in my country, you'd be tabloid headlines. These admissions of stalking and ethical misconduct by you are shocking - if I worked for the NCH, I'm afraid to say that you'd be straight out the door. Do they know about your escapades?

Homeo Man, I'd like to repeat my question from the other thread that you mention the type of camera you used to take the photographs? Make and model number? Thanks.

 

[MRC_Hans]

Hans,

this is another offer. you can directly apply at this forum.

If you agree, then I will ask you few questions to fill up the reg form.

Ahh, another bogus prize with no public rules, to divert attention from the main issue?

Hans

 

[Chris Haynes]

...Your actions demonstrate that you are a dishonest and unethical person.

If you were a member of any real medical profession I would report your behaviour to them however since you belong to a group of charlatans who also lie to and cheat sick people of their money I doubt they would consider what you did was a breach of ethics since they must be as morally bankrupt as you are.

That seems to be the norm in Pakistan:
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_30-5-2005_pg7_36

 

[Perpetual Notion]

HC, your link isn't working

 

[Darat]

Try this one: http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_30-5-2005_pg7_36

 

[Perpetual Notion]

Whoa! I'm not sure I feel any better now that the link is working My heart really goes out to the people of Pakistan.