OCT leader's maturity and credibility

Gravy said:
As their leader, I commanded Wildcat, Hellaeon, and bjb to say those things.
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This bandwagon is going places. BIG places. How can I get on at LEAST at the "Minion" level? And assuming I make that, what do I have to do to graduate to "Henchman"?
 
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=10599

A question would be did the Nazi's try to systematically ethnically cleanse themselves of the Jews? One question I would be if the answer is yes, the Nazi's sure seemed to NOT use the quickest, cheapest and most efficient ways in doing that.
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Cordoning off Jewish neighborhoods in cities, rounding them up and stuffing them into boxcars and shipping them to camps where they are fed en masse into gas chambers. Along with sending truck mounted mobile gas chambers into areas where railways aren't nearby... all this isn't "quick" or "efficient" to you, Killtown?

Please note, I'm not calling names.

I'm just asking questions here.
 
Thanks for the link to Killtown's Holocaust denial thread. It is deserving of it's own thread here on the JREF forum as a classic example of the irrational thinking used to support Holocause denial. Now I feel foolish for having recommended Michael Shermer's book to Killtown.

In Killtown's defense, I have to say it is possible to be a Holocaust denier *without* being a Nazi or being anti-Semetic. For example, David Cole was a well-known Holocaust denier who happened to be Jewish. He wasn't interested in supporting Nazis nor did he complain about Zionist conspiracies. I think David Cole might be the person responsible for the video mentioned in Killtown's Holocause denial link.

In any case, it would be better to address Killtown's claims than to focus on him being a Nazi. Even if he were a Nazi and anti-semite, we are skeptics and we are supposed to evalute his claims for what they are. Otherwise, we are engaging in the same ad hominem behavior as Killtown.

Even so, it is fair to mention Killtown's interest in Holocaust denial. It doesn't disprove his claims, but it does show what kind of thoughts go on in his head. Reading through his Holocaust denial thread, it is very clear that he is not at all influenced by rational thought.
 
Gravy said:
That only applies to the guy who says he can see into my wicked soul, and that I'm in deep, deep trouble. He also said my shoes were inappropriate for debunking, and always accuses us of being paid intelligence operatives. Now when he talks like that I lean in really close to his face, give him the international cuckoo sign, and say "cuckoo" in a high-pitched voice. It's the highlight of my week.
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You guys have to videotape this!!!!:D
 
911insideJob said:
Equating truth seekers with anti semites is one heck of an original angle, really hadn't heard that one before. I'll give you an F for originality. I thought Kill was exagerhating about credibility and maturity.
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It may not be original, but it appears to be true, at least in many cases (including Killtown). How is pointing out the truth immature, exactly?
 
Stellafane said:
It may not be original, but it appears to be true, at least in many cases (including Killtown). How is pointing out the truth immature, exactly?
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Hi,

Can you please show me where you got the idea that I'm an anti-semite?

Thanks.
 
Killtown said:
Hi,

Can you please show me where you got the idea that I'm an anti-semite?

Thanks.
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OK:

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=7618

Technically, you're a Holocaust denier (or at least "Holocaust minimizer" if there is such a thing), which in my view equates to being an anti-Semite. But I suppose that view may be narrow; some here have pointed out that it's possible to be one and not the other. I have a difficult time accepting that, but since that is probably more my opinion than universally accepted fact, I withdraw my comment about you necessarily being anti-Semitic and offer my apology.
 
Killtown said:
No, I don't accept it.
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Good God, what a hypocite...you destroy an innocent woman's life because she took a picture that contradicts your demented delusions, then you presume to take offence because I equate your Holocaust denying with anti-Semitism.

OK, I withdraw my apology, and offer an amended statement: In my opinion, you're an anti-Semite.
 
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Stellafane, to be pedantic, you need retract nothing. Killtown merely asked you to show "where you got the idea" that he is an anti-Semite. Your post meets his request. It does not prove that he is one, but that was not what was asked.

Killtown, I invite you to clarify that you are not an anti-Semite. I for one have not leapt to that conclusion.
 
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