OCT leader's maturity and credibility

So, Gravy...you're the leader, huh? Is there a special pin or a really cool badge or something? And what are the bennies like? Medical, dental, vision?
Yes, and I don't believe that "You're the leader, huh?" is the approved salutation.

The only benefits are free Rollerblading lessons for all JREF members (I'm an instructor, although I haven't taught in a while and my insurance is lapsed, so you'll have to promise not to sue me if you crack your coccyx). Also, if you need advice on trekking or cycling very long distances, I'm your man. Otherwise I'm pretty much useless.
 
Suspecting what the Israeli/Palistine conflict is really about, the strong evidence Israel was involved with 9/11, and seeing how 9/11 was faked in general, it makes me wonder how much of the Holocaust was true or not.... It is my belief that if the holocaust didn't happen, then Israel would not be a state right now. This alone gives strong evidence that the zionists behind getting Israel created would exaggerate the holocaust for their end means.
- Killtown at Loose Change

I've had my knuckles rapped once already for being less than civil with you, Killtown (unlike certain other message boards I can name, the rules here are enforced fairly and even handedly for all users) So I'm going to try to state this clearly without being vicious about it.

If you're going to dredge up someones comments from other boards to impugn thier character, then I would suggest that holocaust denial and anti-semitism are hardly a moral high ground from wich to make such arguments.
 
"Official Conspiracy Theory"
As opposed to the LCT - "Lunatic Conspiracy Theory". Not that they've actually come up with one yet that doesn't rely on mutally exclusive elements... :rolleyes:
 
Actually, I don't need to know any of that. How you and Gravy talk to each other is your own business.

I'd be a lot more impressed if you'd answer my questions: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1843548&postcount=14 in case you lost the thread. Thanks.
I'll second that. It's an excellent post, as always, R. Mackey.

This reminds me of how preposterous the idea of me "leading" people here is. I've never had outside conversations with R. Mackey, Gumboot, or most of the people whose contributions here I'm in awe of. There is no "movement." Just a bunch of individuals from different backgrounds who give a damn about 9/11 and who respect learning.
 
Having said that, Gravy, if I'm ever in NYC, I'll look you up. I imagine you could use a beer or three.

Just make sure we're not photographed together. Fnord.
 
Just a bunch of individuals from different backgrounds who give a damn about 9/11 and who respect learning.
And that's what's so funny about it all - the CT'ers have been at it for nearly 5 years now spreading lies and distortions researching. You found the Loose Change thread 4 1/2 months ago after never even hearing about the CT's and in that short amount of time discredited them all and became *enemy #1 for the Truth™ movement. Only in America! :p



* this includes you MarkyX since you are the same person. ;)
 
And that's what's so funny about it all - the CT'ers have been at it for nearly 5 years now spreading lies and distortions researching. You found the Loose Change thread 4 1/2 months ago after never even hearing about the CT's and in that short amount of time discredited them all and became *enemy #1 for the Truth™ movement. Only in America! :p



* this includes you MarkyX since you are the same person. ;)

thats bacause gravy/markyx/brainster are actually a team of about 15-20 CIA agents workign swing shifts round the clock to keep one step ahead of some film school reject who figured out how to upload a movie on google video
 
thats bacause gravy/markyx/brainster are actually a team of about 15-20 CIA agents workign swing shifts round the clock to keep one step ahead of some film school reject who figured out how to upload a movie on google video
You overestimate the adversary.
So I spent twelve hours yesterday uploading the Recut to Google Video...check my account this morning, it isn't there.

On the British 9/11 forum they did accuse of being paid to work in shifts against them. Of course, we were all laid off when Langley purchased Johnny Pixel Bot.
 
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Credibility? Impeccable.

Maturity? Some of the best WTC moments for me involve looking over at Mark and seeing him giving one of the more colorful CTers the international sign for "Cuckoo." A mature individual would have given the guy the phone number to the nearest psychiatric hospital.
 
Credibility? Impeccable.

Maturity? Some of the best WTC moments for me involve looking over at Mark and seeing him giving one of the more colorful CTers the international sign for "Cuckoo." A mature individual would have given the guy the phone number to the nearest psychiatric hospital.
That only applies to the guy who says he can see into my wicked soul, and that I'm in deep, deep trouble. He also said my shoes were inappropriate for debunking, and always accuses us of being paid intelligence operatives. Now when he talks like that I lean in really close to his face, give him the international cuckoo sign, and say "cuckoo" in a high-pitched voice. It's the highlight of my week.
 
http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/
On the British 9/11 forum they did accuse of being paid to work in shifts against them. Of course, we were all laid off when Langley purchased Johnny Pixel Bot.

I'm up to version 1.337 now.

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There's an Official Conspiracy Theory? Can I join? Do we get badges?
 
Damn, I saw a thread started by killtown with a long opening post, and I thought "COOL! Killtown is actually going to answer the questions posed to him about inconsistencies in his theory and finally start actually debating real facts."

Then I read it. Boy was I dissapointed :(
 
There's an Official Conspiracy Theory? Can I join? Do we get badges?
:p

Slow down - I'm still trying to remember the Gravy's Sheep Official Handshake because I can't get past the bouncer at the CIA stooge ultra top secret night club we all hang out at.

Now you want badges and decoder rings for OCT membership? Our wallets are going to filled to overflowing. Besides, Gravy hasn't said it's okay, yet!
 
To all who think I ignored and ducked Gravy's questions because I was being a coward, you need to know how it all started.


Okay, to get back to the train of this discussion, then.... We still think you were being a coward, as you're just blowing smoke up our kilts with a long cut-n-paste job that shows that you not only don't answer Gravy, but you DON'T ANSWER ANYONE. Even someone doing his best to be a sycophant. And no, we don't think you figured out who it was.... like I said, YOU NEVER ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

Here's the million turkish dollar challenge(with apologies to H.Stern).... Show us 1 answer to any of the questions he asked. Not just in that exchange, but show one time you have EVER answered anyone or actually directed someone to the site, blog, magazine, billboard, film, video (ad infitum....) that had any proof of your mindless and scurrilous accusations.

And thanks to Sword of Truth, we can say that not only are you a coward, you're an anti semitic sack of rule8. If it wasn't Loose Change, it'd be the price of gas. If not the price of gas, then housing prices in Salinas. Something's ALWAYS the fault of the zionists and jews. You guys almost pass for credible to your slobbering masses sometimes, but as has already been noted, sooner or later you slip up and start recommending tinfoil hats, or espousing Holocaust denial, or arming and heading for the mountains, or marching on the government!
 
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