OCT leader's maturity and credibility

Hi 911 - I'm back.... Jeez, you were right, you can't get "near" 911Eyewitness, the stench knocks you back about twenty meters. Actually I got so distracted clicking on idiotic 'articles' (any semblance to the word articulate is purely coincidental, I assure you), that I really couldn't get much into it, but I'm getting my aqualung and crap-proof armor and I'll go back, soon. I do so like the sites with the false erudition masking the nonsense!


Truly - I could spend a month over there.... But I got distracted by Googling the author of the below bit of wisdom :boggled:

Here's just a sampling of Gerard Holmgren's linked article on 911Eyewitness. It seems to be from early 2004, so maybe he has lost favor (he was debating The Great High Poobah Jones at one point, so maybe they hit him with with too many WADP (whack-ass demerit points.... if you trip over your own rhetoric too many times they take away life points like they did to Juni in that third Spy Kids movie.....)

Anyway..... from the prolific pen of Gerard Holmgren (sorry - just citing a single paragraph - it's too long to quote the whole thing)

QUOTE

Now the Sth tower crash, the one shown live on TV. Surely this was a real Boeing 767 because we saw it live, and at superficial viewing it certainly appears to be a large jet. However, a frame by frame examination of the video reveals that it is not a real plane. It shows impossible physical characteristics and behaviour. It passes through the wall like a ghost without making a hole and without breaking off any parts. The hole only appears well after the plane has entirely disappeared without disturbing the building. It exceeds the maximum speed of a Boeing 767 at low altitude while banked sharply and flying in the opposite direction to that in which its banking. It hip hops across the screen regularly alternating ,frame by frame, between supersonic speed and hovering motionless. It has a strange anomaly in the shape of the belly.

It is a fake. The plane is simply a movie.

Witness evidence for a large plane hitting the Sth tower is as elusive as for the Nth Tower and the Pentagon. There is a police transcript of a report of someone firing missiles.

UNQUOTE

And for abject rhetorical gymnastics (you have to read it a few times to figure out what the f*** he's saying) try this one for more on Gerard....
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/holmgren01.htm I assume veteran skeptics will recognize him as he's just about the founding father of whack-ass theories. Most of his crap has been debunked, but I'm sure he's out there carrying on. He's an Aussie - any Aussie skeptics reading?

As to the quote.... I'm sure the great Gerard Holmgren's not reading, but if he was:
Listen, Jackass, I watched that whole morning from the 20th floor of 10 Exchange Place in Jersey City. Just as I've said to the idiots who report no windows on the plane,.... the plane came in from more or less over our right shoulder - and it were a plane, bro! A big plane, a 767. There was no mistaking it. It was not a missile, not a film (did you really say that, above???? what a jerk), and not a lost seagull - it was a big roaring 767. I'll be happy to give you the names of about a hundred people who were in the building that day and watched it. (You can find 10 Exchange Place on a map -there was probably (and unfortunately for the nightmares I still have) not a better viewing spot for that strike.

And why are there no 'eyewitness' reports in the record you ask? Well, because it's on film, Gerard.... How many eyewitness reports are there on record of Ruby shooting Oswald? The film is the eyewitness!

(*spotted all the way from Brooklyn, Gravy... I love that... looking through all those towers between the East River and the WTC they could see "no windows"... and that's cited all over the place)
 
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"Gravy is your master now!"
:(
Gravy's our leader? I didn't vote for him, I thought we were an autonomous collective. ;)

*Note Gravy getting off his "horse" and striding imperiously toward me*

Hey, look, Gravy is heading over here to repress me! See the violence inherent in the system!

DR (I'm not old!)
 
Hi 911 - I'm back.... Jeez, you were right, you can't get "near" 911Eyewitness, the stench knocks you back about twenty meters. Actually I got so distracted clicking on idiotic 'articles' (any semblance to the word articulate is purely coincidental, I assure you), that I really couldn't get much into it, but I'm getting my aqualung and crap-proof armor and I'll go back, soon. I do so like the sites with the false erudition masking the nonsense!


Truly - I could spend a month over there.... But I got distracted by Googling the author of the below bit of wisdom :boggled:

Here's just a sampling of Gerard Holmgren's linked article on 911Eyewitness. It seems to be from early 2004, so maybe he has lost favor (he was debating The Great High Poobah Jones at one point, so maybe they hit with with too many WADP (whack-ass demerit points.... if you trip over your own rhetoric too many times they take away life points like the did to Juni in that third Spy Kids movie.....

Anyway..... from the prolific pen of Gerard Holmgren (sorry - just citing a single paragraph - it's too long to quote the whole thing)

QUOTE

Now the Sth tower crash, the one shown live on TV. Surely this was a real Boeing 767 because we saw it live, and at superficial viewing it certainly appears to be a large jet. However, a frame by frame examination of the video reveals that it is not a real plane. It shows impossible physical characteristics and behaviour. It passes through the wall like a ghost without making a hole and without breaking off any parts. The hole only appears well after the plane has entirely disappeared without disturbing the building. It exceeds the maximum speed of a Boeing 767 at low altitude while banked sharply and flying in the opposite direction to that in which its banking. It hip hops across the screen regularly alternating ,frame by frame, between supersonic speed and hovering motionless. It has a strange anomaly in the shape of the belly.

It is a fake. The plane is simply a movie.

Witness evidence for a large plane hitting the Sth tower is as elusive as for the Nth Tower and the Pentagon. There is a police transcript of a report of someone firing missiles.

UNQUOTE

And for abject rhetorical gymnastics (you have to read it a few times to figure out what the f*** he's saying) try this one for more on Gerard....
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/holmgren01.htm I assume veteran skeptics will recognize him as he's just about the founding father of whack-ass theories. Most of his crap has been debunked, but I'm sure he's out there carrying on. He's an Aussie - any Aussie skeptics reading?

As to the quote.... I'm sure the great Gerard Holmgren's not reading, but if he was:
Listen, Jackass, I watched that whole morning from the 20th floor of 10 Exchange Place in Jersey City. Just as I've said to the idiots who report no windows on the plane,.... the plane came in from more or less over our right shoulder - and it were a plane, bro! A big plane, a 767. There was not mistaking it. It was not a missile, not a film (did you really say that, above???? what a jerk), and not a lost seagull - it was a big roaring 767. I'll be happy to give you the names of about a hundred people who were in the building that day and watched it. (You can find 10 Exchange Place on a map -there was probably (and unfortunately for the nightmares I still have) not a better viewing spot for that strike.

And why are there no 'eyewitness' reports in the record you ask? Well, because it's on film, Gerard.... How many eyewitness reports are there on record of Ruby shooting Oswald? The film is the eyewitness!

(*spotted all the way from Brooklyn, Gravy... I love that... looking through all those towers between the East River and the WTC they could see "no windows"... and that's cited all over the place)
 
"http://www.serendipity.li/wot/holmgren01.htm I assume veteran skeptics will recognize him as he's just about the founding father of whack-ass theories. Most of his crap has been debunked, but I'm sure he's out there carrying on. He's an Aussie - any Aussie skeptics reading? "

Damn! Here I was thinking that us Aussies were too smart to fall into the CT mindset. Oh well. Guess its time for another beer.:blush:
 
Huh? Do I understand correctly that some people claim that no planes hit WTC1 and 2?
 
Equating truth seekers with anti semites is one heck of an original angle, really hadn't heard that one before. I'll give you an F for originality. I thought Kill was exagerhating about credibility and maturity.

Truth seekers?

seek (sēk)

v., sought (sôt), seek·ing, seeks.

v.tr.
To try to locate or discover; search for.
To endeavor to obtain or reach: seek a college education.
To go to or toward: Water seeks its own level.
To inquire for; request: seek directions from a police officer.
To try; endeavor: seek to do good.
Obsolete. To explore.
v.intr.
To make a search or investigation: Seek and you will find.

[Middle English sechen, seken, from Old English sēcan.]

truth (trūth)
n., pl. truths (trūTHz, trūths).
Conformity to fact or actuality.
A statement proven to be or accepted as true.
Sincerity; integrity.
Fidelity to an original or standard.

Reality; actuality.
often Truth That which is considered to be the supreme reality and to have the ultimate meaning and value of existence.
[Middle English trewthe, loyalty, from Old English trēowth.]

Perhaps you should consider a name change.
 
Equating truth seekers with anti semites is one heck of an original angle, really hadn't heard that one before. I'll give you an F for originality. I thought Kill was exagerhating about credibility and maturity.

Do you have any idea how pretentious it sounds to refer to yourselves as "truth seekers"?

Don't exager-hate! Celebrate!
 
Huh? Do I understand correctly that some people claim that no planes hit WTC1 and 2?
Absolutely correct, give that man a cigar!

There are a lot of nut cases out there who believe that no airplanes hit the WTC, who believe that flight 93 did not crash in Pennsylvania, that the passengers of flight 93 actually left the plane in Cleveland and were murdered, and a great long list of other insanities.
 
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Sorry about the double posting, guys. I'm new here and the "back" button is playing tricks on me.

See cite above from Sword of Truth to verify the Anti-Semite comment, 911. Care to bring little brother Killcreep back to deny his denial? That ought to be fun!

Please do not call names.
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9/11 eyewitness. isnt that the 2h long recording from across the river. The one where we timed the fall of one of the towers at between 20-30 seconds instead of 10. ya I would like a thread to discuss that video.
 
Great work Kill, the OCTers will need some serious medication when they finally wake from their slumbers. ;)

I notice they wont got near 911Eyewitness.
Welcome to the JREF Forum.

If you happen to speak to KillTown, please ask him (again) to address my questions regarding his website, from this post. I understood that he was here to discuss the events of Sept. 11th, and I would like to continue that discussion. He seems to have overlooked my concerns.

You will note that I have not once insulted KillTown or yourself. Use the "search" function if you would like to verify this.

Also, I am not familiar with anyone named "911Eyewitness," but I would be glad to include him or her in the debate as well. Thanks.
 
Hold on a minute. Can I have a staff if I haven't even reached the rank of Globalist Henchman?

Just speak to Delphi. It'll work in no time.

As to why the Henchman #1 would work as an enforcer for a recruit, well you just have to understand our globalist psychology for that; and if you don't, I'm not gonna tell you.
 

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