Moderated Obama birth certificate CT / SSN CT / Birther discussion

[sylvan8798]

Did they ask whether the hospital had records for all the other patients who were there that day? or that week? or that year? If they had records for every patient from 1961 except Obama's mother I might find that vaguely concerning. Otherwise ya got jack.

 

[Robrob]

so now it's suspicious that the hospital didn't keep the records from 50 years ago???

Isn't that what the BC is for?!

 

[Myron Proudfoot]

Next up for Orly and the Birthers, why didn't Mrs. Obama keep the little patient ID bracelet that she was given when she checked into the hospital in 1961? hummm??

 

[Horatius]

Next up for Orly and the Birthers, why didn't Mrs. Obama keep the little patient ID bracelet that she was given when she checked into the hospital in 1961? hummm??

Because they don't give those out in Kenya, DUH.

 

[Arus808]

Missed this one completely as it was under the radar, but a case in Hawaii State Court, Wolf V Fuddy was decided on Dec 8, 2011. Same arguments and the nitrous queen, but as equally shot down by the courts

http://www.scribd.com/doc/75274207/...ificate-Hearing-First-Circuit-Court-of-Hawaii

Of course, a motion for reconsideration will be filed ....

 

[Alferd_Packer]

Check this out



http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/12/joe_arpaio_makes_cover_of_one.php#Comments

hilarious.

 

[Robrob]

Birtherism is probably the least crazy idea held by the anti-Obama crowd.

This was posted in response to some derision over Newt Gingrich's recent pledge to remain faithful to his (most recent) spouse.

"When do you think Obama is going to take the "no more homosexual liaisons in the back of limos and no more visiting gay bath houses pledge?" Oh! Thats right, thats his private business and no one is supposed to care!"

 

[Alferd_Packer]

The latest birther lawsuit

http://media.al.com/spotnews/other/Suit again Obama on ballot.pdf

The stupid is strong in this one.

 

[Arus808]

The latest birther lawsuit

http://media.al.com/spotnews/other/Suit again Obama on ballot.pdf

The stupid is strong in this one.

Yeah, all through the efforts of Orly taitz. she is urging her cavity creeps to file these motions in all 50 states (even if they don't have a primary)

You know how you can tell its Orly Taitz who pushed this; the evidence attached (like in the PDF) are all from the copy pasta salads of her numerous cases.

Love how she/he includes the illegally obtained SSA/Everify information by Linda Jordan.

 

[KDLarsen]

I can't decide if it's either sad or amusing, that the birthers can't seem to grasp the idea that Obama may have had a new SSN issued. Especially now that they've plastered his previous one all over the interwebs.

 

[CptColumbo]

Meanwhile, in Georgia...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...d=maing-grid7|main5|dl2|sec3_lnk1&pLid=121024

Two of the complainants have brought on the legal help of Mark Hatfield, an attorney and Republican state lawmaker who has more extreme beliefs about the constitutional requirements for the office of president. According to the [Atlanta Journal Constitution], he believes the Founding Fathers intended a stricter set of rules requiring both presidential aspirants and their parents to have been born in the United States.

He may be suprised to hear how many Presidents didn't qualify under his rules.

 

[Robrob]

I can't decide if it's either sad or amusing, that the birthers can't seem to grasp the idea that Obama may have had a new SSN issued. Especially now that they've plastered his previous one all over the interwebs.

That and their use of Lexis-Nexus database to obtain the SSN. For those not familiar with L-N, it draws from a huge number of other databases and mailing lists. If you ever filled out a magazine subscription or grocery store club membership with a bogus phone number or SS, it's in there. If an illegal alien ever applied for a job using a made up SS number, it's in there. If someone ever made a mistake writing down their SS it;s in there. If a clerk ever made a transcription error entering a SS number, it's in there.

Odds are at least 50/50 if you looked yourself up in L-N you'd find addresses you never lived at, phone numbers you never used and a couple of "spare" SSN.

It's meaningless.

 

[Chaos]

That and their use of Lexis-Nexus database to obtain the SSN. For those not familiar with L-N, it draws from a huge number of other databases and mailing lists. If you ever filled out a magazine subscription or grocery store club membership with a bogus phone number or SS, it's in there. If an illegal alien ever applied for a job using a made up SS number, it's in there. If someone ever made a mistake writing down their SS it;s in there. If a clerk ever made a transcription error entering a SS number, it's in there.

Odds are at least 50/50 if you looked yourself up in L-N you'd find addresses you never lived at, phone numbers you never used and a couple of "spare" SSN.

It's meaningless.

Then perhaps someone should turn the tables and look up Orly at L-N?

 

[Alferd_Packer]

Call him an anti-birther. A naturalized American citizen born in Guyana is suing Gardner in federal court because the secretary of state did not accept his declaration of candidacy to run for president.

The Constitution, of course, requires presidents to be born a United States citizen. But would-be candidate Abdul Karim Hassan, a resident of Queens, N.Y., argues this restriction violates other parts of the Constitution, like a clause that prevent states from enforcing laws that abridge the privileges of U.S. citizens.

Hassan explains in the suit that he's focused on the upcoming presidential election, but if he's unsuccessful he "intends to continue his current campaign without interruption until the next presidential elections in 2016."

http://www.concordmonitor.com/artic...fcdde620d638bd9d460c356f9009=google&page=full

From a technical standpoint, he may have a case, although he is citing the wrong amendment.

Under the 12th amendment, the Electoral College and Congress can elect whomever they want.

The states have no say in the matter.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

The birthers lose again in court

Barack Obama does not have to go to court to prove to Orange County's Orly Taitz and the Rev. Wiley Drake and seven other Southern Californians that he was natural born and eligible to be president of the United States, a federal appeals court ruled today. One reason a three-judge panel of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C., gave for dismissing the lawsuit filed on Inauguration Day 2009: the so-called birthers suffered no harm from the Obama presidency giving them the right to sue him.

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/12/president_barack_obama_birther.php

 

[Arus808]

Orly will appeal...cause you know, she can't afford to lose all those donations to here paypal.


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/12/birthers-obama.html

 

[KDLarsen]

There is no way to describe Orlana, other than absolutely ******* crazy. She briefly aired a theory that one of the members of the NH Ballot Law Commision, Bradford E. Cook, is actually one G. Bradford Cook who was appointed to the SEC in the 70's but had to resign over a donation scandal. She subsequently asked her minions to dig up "the dirt" on Bradford E. Cook, but I never found an update to that post.

On one hand, I'd hate for mr. Cook to have his privacy invaded by Orlana's minions - on the other hand, he is apparently one hell of a lawyer, so I'd love to see him slam Orlana with a harrasment and slander lawsuit.

 

[Arus808]

Last post on the Bradford cook (in whatever format) was that she asked here minions to do some digging, and nothing returned as a result of it.

Come on, the woman has only 3 official visitors to her website, every other "visit" is by anti-birthers looking to see what insane crap she has copy and pasted this time to her malware/spyware/virus infested website.

 

[Alareth]

Apparently the people at factcheck.org are left wing political activists

Researcher Ron Polland has launched Federal Election Commission and Internal Revenue Service challenges against Factcheck.org, charging the media monitor has violated its tax-exempt legal status as a non-partisan organization by publishing and promoting a short-form birth certificate for Obama he contends was forged…

Polland’s complaint to the IRS reads in part:

In June 2008, the Annenberg Public Policy Center, D/B/A Annenberg Factcheck colluded with the Obama Campaign to create a false identity document for Barack Obama and to conduct a propaganda campaign to prevent Obama’s true identity and citizenship from being known. The document was allegedly a scan image of a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth. In August 2008, after people questioned its authenticity, Factcheck created a physical document using a printout of the same scan image and took photos of it. Factcheck used the photos along with a fraudulent examination of them to authenticate the same false identity document they created.

Polland asked the IRS to rescind Factcheck’s non-profit status, charging the principals at Factcheck are “leftwing political activists who campaigned for Obama and against McCain.”

And of course, Jerome Corsi has nothing but glowing praise for Ron Polland and gushes with support for him over at WND

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=379561

 

[A'isha]

Ron Polland is the same nutbar who went by the name "Polarik" and posted the most hysterically and egregiously wrong "analysis" of Obama's birth certificates. Computer forensics expert Dr. Neal Krawetz punched huge gaping holes in Polland's theories long before Obama was even inaugurated.

Before filing this latest lawsuit, he moved on to such comedy gold as claiming the Nordyke twins' certificates were also forged, the St. Petersburg Times is the shadowy mastermind behind both PolitiFact and the forgery of Obama's birth certificates, and that genetic analysis from a wine glass surreptitiously obtained from a dinner Obama had with his late grandmother proves that Obama is really the child of Frank Marshall Davis and an unnamed Christian Lebanese woman.