Moderated Obama birth certificate CT / SSN CT / Birther discussion

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ANTPogo said:
In Dred Scott, the Supreme Court ruled that neither slaves nor the freed descendants of slaves were citizens of the United States under the Constitution. They could be citizens of states, if the state in question so permitted, but they were not US citizens.

The 14th Amendment changed that, so that anyone born in the US, regardless of their parentage, would be a citizen of the United States (the 13th Amendment abolished slavery).
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Ok, so it was a 14th Amendment change, as I had guessed. And I forgot about that particular element of the Dredd Scott ruling. Thank you for the info.

ETA: off topic but interesting. The more things change, the more they stay the same. From the ruling in the link you provided
9. The change in public opinion and feeling in relation to the African race which has taken place since the adoption of the Constitution cannot change its construction and meaning, and it must be construed and administered now according to its true meaning and intention when it was formed and adopted.
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Justice Scalia would be proud.
 
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Robrob said:
I wonder if he's going to take the opportunity to reveal some of that "earth shattering" information his detectives uncovered in Hawaii?
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I hope so; I'd love to see some of the "saner" Republican candidates finally throw the Birthers under the bus for good.
 
According to WND, we can expect to see a birther ballot challenge in Alabama soon.

That should be entertaining.
 
If Orly is anything to go by, we can expect to see challenges in every state and territory where Obama is going to be on the ballot. IIRC she's already moving on to Georgia, having asked her followers to check up on local election law - naturally, that was after she filed the challenge...
 
According to Salon, Orly is planning on filing a petition to the NH Supreme Court on the ballot issue.

A “petition?”

Obviously she can’t file a lawsuit since she doesn’t have
any standing in New Hampshire and she is not authorized to practice law in that state.

So what’s the point of filing a “petition?”
 
Alferd_Packer said:
According to Salon, Orly is planning on filing a petition to the NH Supreme Court on the ballot issue.

A “petition?”

Obviously she can’t file a lawsuit since she doesn’t have
any standing in New Hampshire and she is not authorized to practice law in that state.

So what’s the point of filing a “petition?”
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Just more evidence of the huge conspiracy to make her look like an imbecile.

It would be very sinister if it wasn't a conspiracy she is perpetuating on herself.
 
Myron Proudfoot said:
I see Trump is going to moderate a Republican debate for Newsmax! Any bets on him asking a Birther question?
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From The Donald hisself:

Donald Trump, who spent much of the spring questioning President Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship, says he still isn't sure that Obama was born in the United States. Nevertheless, he says he'll be giving the topic a rest when he moderates a Republican debate in Des Moines later this month.

"Look, the most important issue is jobs," Trump said during rather a testy interview with Chuck Todd on MSNBC on Monday. "Whether or not he was born here--you know, to me it means something. I guess it doesn't mean a lot to a lot of people, to me it happens to mean something. The fact that they can't find any records that his mother was in the hospital--that, to me, means something. [But] a lot of people don't care."
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/donald-trump-says-won-t-ask-birther-questions-193102558.html
I thought Trump said he was convinced last spring? What a maroon.
 
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