[Moderated] So What Would You Think If This Were True?

[Horatius]

There you go again using the wrong word.

There is no if in FACT.

But there is in the New! Apple iFact(tm)!

Be the envy of your CT friends! 20GB of storage that can be filled with anything you can make up*. Who needs facts, when we have iFacts(tm)?


*Expandable to 60GB for the professional iReaseacher(tm).

 

[JFM]

You seriously want us to believe there are spooks rushing around planting lightpoles here?

http://www.oilempire.us/graphics/pen...fire-width.jpg

Not forgetting the one they had to smash through Mr Englands windshield. Not one of these people noticed?

You guys are deluded.

 

[Pardalis]

Oh yes, because it said so on the internet, so they must have saw it.

I can't say my English is anywhere perfect but this is just awful.

You guys are no different than the CT's you bash.

Come again?

You are going to learn a lot about witnesses and what they do.

What were they doing, these past 5 years?

The plane came on the North side. This is why we now know who is deducing and who is exaggerating or lying.

What about the engeneers who studied the crash? You believe you are more qualified than them?

You people don't, because you are content with "i guess it hit some light poles"

That is your world.

And your world involves unexplained flying lightpoles?

 

[stateofgrace]

You seriously want us to believe there are spooks rushing around planting lightpoles here?

http://www.oilempire.us/graphics/pen...fire-width.jpg

Not forgetting the one they had to smash through Mr Englands windshield. Not one of these people noticed?

You guys are deluded.

Ah this one is simple.

Rule one of the conspirators.

When confronted with irrefutable evidence that simply smacks down your theory make the following statement

"It's fake"

or

"It was planted"

Then carry on making it all up, hoping nobody noticed.

ps, there is only one rule.

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

And it's one of the few realms that I've seen where subjective, anecdotal evidence is used to discredit objective, verifiable evidence; and not the other way around.

 

[Pardalis]

You don't know anything about the investigation, so don't get your panties in a bunch.

Then stop bragging about it and show us.

You people and your hair-brained thinking isn't allowing you past first base.

F* you

IF THE PLANE IS ON THE LEFT SIDE OR NORTH SIDE OF THE GAS STATION, THEN IT DIDN'T HIT THE POLES?

DO...YOU...UNDERSTAND????

THEN WHAT DID ?

And we have already determined for a FACT that the plane was on the North Side, so those other accounts are proven to be deducion or exaggeration. Period.

FALSE.

We would have to see your evidence. As far as we know, this is BS until we see it.

 

[Pardalis]

Bet all you want, you are in for a big surprise. You are not dealing with Dylan Avery my feathery friend.

Oh I believe you, I think we're dealing with a very special brand of schmuck here...

This better be good Skeptic4Sure, or you're in for the biggest humilitation of your life.

 

[Roger_Harris]

Essentially, we're once again dealing with "world's dumbest conspirators" syndrome.

These guys want us to believe that the evil genius conspirators had a damage path all set up beforehand, with busted lightpoles, internal Pentagon damage, etc. Then they flew the plane in THE WRONG WAY. And no one noticed.

How does that make ANY sense at all?

The funniest part is how they "cracked the case." The NTSB puts out a video showing the plane flying north of the the Citgo; they flog it for months saying that this "official" animation proves the plane didn't hit the posts; then they go find a couple people who say yup, north of the Citgo; then it turns out that the animation is wrong; then they say, see, the witnesses prove the NTSB data is wrong.

 

[Kent1]

Yeah you're late too.

We covered all this. Wanda Ramey is the only one who said she saw the wing clip the pole. And I know for a fact, that another DPS said they saw the pole get clipped and this wasn't true.

Sepulveda goes on about a landing gear. Disqualified.

Unnamed Navy Admiral: Disqualified.

Did Peggy ACTUALLY see that at 530 mph or did she deduce it afterwards?

Where is the critical thinking I hear so much about here?

So without you actually getting off your ass and actually interviewing people, you're no different than a CT just wilding posting anything without studying the information.

This reply doesn't make logical sence. Yes Sepulveda thought it was a wheel, but that doesn't make him "Disqualified". It means he could be mistaken about what hit the pole. (It was only a fraction of a second.)
The others aren't even attemped to be debunked. I've interviewed many people although not from the Pentagon. Send me some contact info and I'll be happy to. BTW Tell us more about the undercover skater and taxicab driver, you keep raving about over at the loose change forum. Maybe you guys can get Dylan to add all this undercover spook stuff in LC final cut. LOL!

 

[Hellbound]

Wow.

13 pages based on a hypothetical that is unsupported by evidence.

Just out of curiosity (and because I have no desire to read 13 pages of a delusionoid bringing out the same old tired theories without evidence), is this the same Citgo witness who claimed to be out by the pumps but does not appear in the Citgo security video?

 

[twinstead]

Hey pal,

You don't know anything about the investigation, so don't get your panties in a bunch.

You don't know who we contacted or who we attempted to contact with no success or no return call.

We have conducted an investigation, and the light poles have been thoroughly evaluated in light of the new testimony and information we received.

You people and your hair-brained thinking isn't allowing you past first base.

Listen once again children...

IF THE PLANE IS ON THE LEFT SIDE OR NORTH SIDE OF THE GAS STATION, THEN IT DIDN'T HIT THE POLES?

DO...YOU...UNDERSTAND????

And we have already determined for a FACT that the plane was on the North Side, so those other accounts are proven to be deducion or exaggeration. Period.

Your only quandary should be regarding the actual proof from witnesses that the plane flew on the North Side.

PERIOD.

You have determined no such thing! You are simply arrogantly claiming you have. Saying so doesn't make it true.

PERIOD.

 

[bonavada]

And we have already determined for a FACT that the plane was on the North Side, so those other accounts are proven to be deducion or exaggeration. Period.

i'm new to this thread. but i have to ask, if the plane flew a different trajectory to the officially recognised one, what caused the damage to the lamposts? (and generator?)
sorry if it's been asked before.

confused

BV

 

[Regnad Kcin]

We found the white house document that Bush signed ordering the attack.

While the lightpole issue makes for an interesting diversion, I'd really like our friend to elaborate on the above.

 

[bonavada]

While the lightpole issue makes for an interesting diversion, I'd really like our friend to elaborate on the above.

can't argue with that.
is this the smoking howitzer they've all been waiting for?

BV

 

[Qubit]

Father Stephen McGraw is a prime candidate for a deep cover agent. What could possibly be a more cush job that would leave you plenty of time for clandestine covert operations than a priest?

Wow! I hope they put that in the movie. Maybe they can get Mel Gibson to play Father McGraw.

About news reporter Mike Walter, who was kind enough to invite the crack – or is that spliff? – Pentagon research team to his home for a barbecue, and who said, "...it turned and came around in front of the vehicle and it clipped one of these light poles ... and slammed right into the Pentagon right there":

The other side of the coin is that he may very well be an intelligence operative that was deep cover for the official story and was literally wooing us to keep tabs and soften the official account by befriending us and inviting us into his home.

I think Lyte is just angry that Mr. Walter overcooked his hamburger. I know when I try to woo CT'ist (because, you know I am a government agent), I usually make ribs with a chemtrail rub. No complaints so far!

 

[T.A.M.]

So interesting. These people with only the "best of intentions", thinking only of those who "lost their lives or loved ones on 9/11", now claim to have indisputable prove that 9/11 was an inside job. Concrete scientific proof. Yet have they gone to anyone who could do anything about it? Gone to authorities. Had it independently verified by a recognized expert? I doubt it. Why is this not late breaking news on the networks...oh wait...i remember, they are all in on it, so it would be pointless, right???

ya or maybe you realize if your so called indisputable proof gets in the hands of real experts they'll laugh you back under your rocks.

I await this revolutionary evidence with eager anticipation.

TAM

 

[Lyte Trip]

Wow! I hope they put that in the movie. Maybe they can get Mel Gibson to play Father McGraw.



I think Lyte is just angry that Mr. Walter overcooked his hamburger. I know when I try to woo CT'ist (because, you know I am a government agent), I usually make ribs with a chemtrail rub. No complaints so far!

Nah.

I'm vegetarian.

His wife makes great salads though!

 

[Lyte Trip]

So interesting. These people with only the "best of intentions", thinking only of those who "lost their lives or loved ones on 9/11", now claim to have indisputable prove that 9/11 was an inside job. Concrete scientific proof. Yet have they gone to anyone who could do anything about it? Gone to authorities. Had it independently verified by a recognized expert? I doubt it. Why is this not late breaking news on the networks...oh wait...i remember, they are all in on it, so it would be pointless, right???

ya or maybe you realize if your so called indisputable proof gets in the hands of real experts they'll laugh you back under your rocks.

I await this revolutionary evidence with eager anticipation.

TAM

I just returned with the info. We are working to compile and present it as soon as possible.

You obviously don't understand the implications so I will re-quote my initial response to you.

I am only posting here as a courtesy to help skeptics like you that are slow on the uptake.

 

[T.A.M.]

Here is another question.

If it was the evil PNAC people who were pulling off 9/11, and it was there guys controlling the alleged plane. And if it did come from the north side, then (a) wouldnt they know this and therefore provide FDR data that would show this, and (b) why would they make light poles spontaneously pop up and fly out of the ground nowhere near where you are suggesting their plane flew?

Do you even think of these things when you make such proposterous suggestions?

Or are you really trying to convince us that they flew a plane toward the Pentagon from the Northside, flew over, leaving a missile within at the same time, but then were STUPID enough to say that the plane came in from the south side, and STUPID enough to knock poles over nowhere near where the plane flew...oh ya, and then even MORE STUPIDLY, provide FDR data that contradicts their entire story. These sound like guys bright enough to pull off 9/11? Give me a f&*king break.

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

anytime you wanna match wits with me assh*le, feel free. I have more education than you'll ever get, and I didnt get that education from being "slow on the uptake".

TAM