Loose Change - Part III

[chipmunk stew]

johndoeX crosses the line big time

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=7976&view=findpost&p=6014416

lol.. corbin is afraid of boxcutters..

I am not ashamed of this. Are you not afraid of a man armed with a knife?

If hes trying to take over my ship. .and all he has is a boxcutter? Im gonna grab my crash axe and chop him up... while tossing fire extingushers to passengers. .you?

Or do you cower and say.. "Please dont cut me Mr. Big Bad Terrorist"

JDX, why don't you repeat that to the families of these men:

Flight 11--

John Ogonowski

Thomas McGuinness


Flight 77--

Charles Burlingame

David Charlebois


Flight 175--

Victor Saracini

Michael Horrocks


Flight 93--

Jason Dahl

Leroy Homer

 

[DavidJames]

johndoeX crosses the line big time

johndoeX has been on that side of line for a while now.

He's holding hands with jenabell there, who's also cracking wiseass jokes about being afraid of boxcutters.

 

[Class]

JohndoeX is saying that because some of the pilots had prior military training, they would have better weapons given to them to combat against hijackers.

Now, I am not a pilot and nor do I play one on TV, but was it standard practice before 9/11 to arm pilots with military experience knives? Or is JohndoeX talking about using their hands as weapons?

 

[DavidJames]

JohndoeX is saying that because some of the pilots had prior military training, they would have better weapons given to them to combat against hijackers.

Now, I am not a pilot and nor do I play one on TV, but was it standard practice before 9/11 to arm pilots with military experience knives? Or is JohndoeX talking about using their hands as weapons?

I'm also curious if pilots of commerical jets need to be college grads?

 

[Belz...]

If hes trying to take over my ship. .and all he has is a boxcutter? Im gonna grab my crash axe and chop him up... while tossing fire extingushers to passengers. .you?

Or do you cower and say.. "Please dont cut me Mr. Big Bad Terrorist"

What a complete and utter moron.

This guy has absolutely no idea what he's saying, or of what it means when he says it.

Might as well urinate on their graves, while he's at it.

 

[Belz...]

JohndoeX is saying that because some of the pilots had prior military training, they would have better weapons given to them to combat against hijackers.

Now, I am not a pilot and nor do I play one on TV, but was it standard practice before 9/11 to arm pilots with military experience knives? Or is JohndoeX talking about using their hands as weapons?

Anything more than their hands, and they're in danger if Claus is ever on their flight.

 

[c0rbin]

Fire axes and luggage are the weapons of choice.

 

[Mancman]

I was really joking when I posted this... but TheQuest has tied this in w/ the India train bombing, the NYC collapse and the foiled subway attack from last week.

I see this as a sign of desperation on their part. With Scholars For 911 Truth's credibility and the word going out rapidly, especially with the latest edition of Vanity Fair's coverage of Loose Change, the perps feel they need to counter evry single truth revelation with some new 'terrorist' act.

Fewer and fewer buy it.

Right. The 'NWO', upon seeing their 9/11 conspiracy exposed further by Loose Change gaining a mention in a magazine, decided to blow up some trains in India and kill 200 people, to remind us all that terrorism exists. That makes sense, right? (Smashes head into desk until sight becomes blurred)

It must be incredible inside the mind of a CTer, where every new attack revolves around you and your cause. Extraordinary.

 

[Orb]

I posted this on another thread, but it seems kind of relative to this too. The pilots of FedEx flight 705 fought back against a guy armed with hammers, knife and a spear-gun! The hammer blows did the most damage to them, and the head injuries they received prevented them from ever piloting again.
It took 2 healthy men to restrain this nut, and they barely made it home alive. I don't thing anyone would voluntarily put themselves through that unless they were sure they would die anyway, like these guys did. Putting yourself and those around you in danger is not heroic.

 

[Blackadder_no]

I posted this on another thread, but it seems kind of relative to this too. The pilots of FedEx flight 705 fought back against a guy armed with hammers, knife and a spear-gun! The hammer blows did the most damage to them, and the head injuries they received prevented them from ever piloting again.
It took 2 healthy men to restrain this nut, and they barely made it home alive. I don't thing anyone would voluntarily put themselves through that unless they were sure they would die anyway, like these guys did. Putting yourself and those around you in danger is not heroic.

Sounds awfully similar to what happened in Norway just a couple of years ago.
(I'd post a link, but I'm 14 posts short, so google for the keywords: kato aviation security international)

 

[Apollyon]

I'm also curious if pilots of commerical jets need to be college grads?

No. A next-door neighbor of mine from a few years back went through pilot training school and subsequently got hired by a Delta subsidiary. He had only a high-school degree, worked as a service manager at a car dealership, and had never flown even a private plane prior to the training school.

 

[The_Fire]

Just for clarification....

Just to be on the same page here, I scanned these puppies (readily available in my toolbox) with a metric scale next to them.
This is what we are talking about right?

ETA:I really don't want one of these in the vicinity of my face/vunerable places.....

 

[Hutch]

Sounds awfully similar to what happened in Norway just a couple of years ago.
(I'd post a link, but I'm 14 posts short, so google for the keywords: kato aviation security international)

Here's an interview with the Pilot. Very lucky man--remind me not to book any flights via Narvik..

http://www.asi-mag.com/editorials/kato.htm

 

[Regnad Kcin]

...This is what we are talking about right?

ETA:I really don't want one of these in the vicinity of my face/vunerable places.....

Nor these:

http://www.protecdirect.co.uk/Images/Products/stanley.jpg

http://www.no-treason.com/images/uploads/boxcut.jpg

 

[Mr. Skinny]

Regnad's link to the Stanley knife is more in line with what I'd think of as a boxcutter.

The pic in The Fire's post is what I'd consider a wallpaper tripper (or some use similar to that.)

 

[The_Fire]

See, I KNEW I was misunderstanding something.....But I still don't want a stanley knife near my main arteries......

 

[DavidJames]

I wish someone, who wasn't banned and wouldn't mind getting banned, would post chipmunk stew pictures of the pilots and ask John to call up some of their relatives and crack some of his jokes about how he would have responded to the threat. Actually, maybe not, that punk would probably do it knowing he could still cower away in his psycho ward and lol himself to sleep.

 

[Apollyon]

Weren't they supposedly plastic handled box cutters though?

In that case, The Fire's pictures would be more correct.

Nothing against the reverse Nick Danger

 

[Mr. Skinny]

See, I KNEW I was misunderstanding something.....But I still don't want a stanley knife near my main arteries......

Fire, I've done a bit of do-it-yourself work, and, for me at least, a boxcutter is something that can actually cut through a heavy cardboard box (not just the sealing tape on the box). Hence the name.

I also use a boxcutter for scoring drywall, cutting insulation batts, etc. I think they are more commonly called "utility knives" these days, but I'm old enough to remember them as a "boxcutter".

Your mileage may vary, as they say.

 

[gumboot]

I posted this on another thread, but it seems kind of relative to this too. The pilots of FedEx flight 705 fought back against a guy armed with hammers, knife and a spear-gun! The hammer blows did the most damage to them, and the head injuries they received prevented them from ever piloting again.

He knew that his wounded crewmates could not last long against Calloway, so he assisted the only way he could. He pulled the control yoke all the way back to his chest, and rolled it to the left.

The DC-10 was executing a barrel-roll at nearly 400 miles per hour—something the aircraft had never been designed to do...the three struggling men were tossed about the galley area, alternately weightless and pressed upon by three times their weight in G forces. By now, the aircraft was inverted at 19,700 feet...

...Tucker initiated a series of wild maneuvers...Tucker abruptly threw the yoke forward, and sent the plane into a vertical dive...The diving DC-10 accelerated past 500 miles per hour, then past the instruments’ capacity to register. Flight 705 was now traveling faster than any DC-10 had ever gone, and was undergoing velocity stresses that the airframe could not sustain...

...Somehow, Tucker pulled from the dive, then reached across the yoke with his left hand to cut speed. At last he grabbed a radio headset and called Memphis.

But... that can't be! The plane won't ALLOW pilots to do that, right? I mean... it just can't happen!



Reality has this nasty habit of demolishing every CT claim.

-Andrew