Loose Change - Part III

[60hzxtl]

I'm getting tired of seeing the cropped photo of that poor lady in one of the towers clinging to a beam in the hole created by a plane with the CT caption about how this proves there weren't any raging fires hot enough to weaken the steel.

It's disingenuous crap like this that makes me tilt towards the losers as being punk a22holes rather then simply pathetic and deluded.

You have to hear the idiots on that;

"It proves the fires were not that hot."

"It was black smoke meaning it was almost out by itself."

The factory installed sarcasm chip in me takes over at that point. . .

Point of fact, I was at that townhouse expolsion/fire on Monday - it was plenty hot and the FDNY was still knocking down little fires at 7:30 PM.

And did the FDNY turn out! Trucks from the Bronx, Brooklyn, and Queens, came to a fire in Manhattan.

Didn't see Sentinel there, I was going to go over and say howdy. . .

 

[Regnad Kcin]

...Bonus points if you guys get the reference before the Loosers do..

George Carlin?

ETA: Nope, but I wasn't that far off:

The idea that if kids wear uniforms to school, it helps keep order — bad theory. And it’s not even a new idea; I first saw it in old newsreels from the 1930s, but it was hard to understand, because the narration was in German.

 

[Kiwiwriter]

Visceral feelings about Loose Change Nutters

I doubt that this warrants its own separate thread, but who knows.

I've been following this along for quite a while. At first I just thought of this particular batch of CTs as rather amusingly absurd and somewhat entertaining. But now I'm finding myself actually being angered by some of the asinine crap they do their best to spread and, unlike psychics and faith healers, apparently truly believe.

They have pretty much proven that they are immune to logic, evidence, and rationality, so there's no changing their minds. To me, they are of the same ilk as holocaust deniers and religious fundamentalists. Any evidence or argument that runs counter to their dogma is denounced as propaganda from The Enemy, whether The Enemy is the The Government(tm), the Eeevil Jews, or Satan.

While it might be satisfying on a visceral level, I'm not inclined to track each and every one of them down and choke the **** out of them just to make myself feel better.

Does anyone else have this kind of reaction? How do you deal with it? Should I just breathe deeply and ridicule myself later for getting all annoyed?

Yes, when I read the garbage that LC nutters and Holocaust deniers spout, I have the same urge to smack them in the head and rub their noses in reality.

But remember, these jerks WANT us to explode...so the LC and neo-Nazi nutters can appear as normal, reasonable, logical people, while defenders of truth and fact look like demented, raving idiots.

It's all psychology and knowing which buttons to push.

 

[Pangea]

On the Friday after 9/11 I received a phone call, as horrific as the attacks were I did not realize how personal the loss would be. We lost Dan, was the message. http://www.legacy.com/Sept11.asp?Page=TributeStory&PersonId=96329.

And now these CT Mother FXXking low life scum of the earth are finding ways to excuse the hijackers. They are taking the tragedy away from the victims and trying to make it about themselves. "look at me" they shout, I am the truth, I know what really happened. Don't let your government lead you around, we have the truth and if you do not believe us you are a shill,,,neo con and a lier.

Dan died because a group of Islamic terrorists wanted to make a statement and hit America hard. They succeeded, and now these anti-semitic, or anti-government or anti-corporate, agenda driven slime balls want to make a name for themselves.

Yes there is no doubt in my mind that my government failed Dan, but it was through incompetence, institutionalized incompetence not some grand conspiracy, and even if it were a conspiracy how could anyone believe these losers could uncover anything. I am surprised if they figure out how to get their zippers down before peeing themselves.

I do not know how but slime balls need to pay for what they are doing. If you know who they are Email their employers, modified versions of this letter will be going to certain University boards of Directors. Do what ever you can to make the paranoia these pricks feel justified.

Steve

My heart breaks for your loss, Steve.
This post could have been written by my husband. He lost his cousin in the North Tower and we received the call on the Friday after the attacks as well.
When he first saw LC and later Alex Jones's Martial Law 9-11:Rise of the Police State, he was angry. It wasn't because he believed what was in those movies, but because they trampled the memory of Debra and the thousands of others who lost their lives.
Through this forum, I've shown him the work that Gravy, MarkyX, JamesB, Brainster and many others have done with TRUE respect to the lives lost on 9-11.
We thank you all for your time and tireless efforts.
*now I'm feeling all warm and fuzzy*

 

[Kaarjuus]

One of the more outrageous claims I have seen anyone make on LC.

We did not catch Saddam Hussein.

From the LC post:

plus his own wife doesnt recognise "him" saddamn?

Apparently, the valuable news site english.pravda.ru is a valid source for them. Not surprising.

 

[Hutch]

Molly Ivins, describing Pat Buchanan's speech to the 1992 Republican National Convention.

Give the man a Ceegar. Molly Ivins is my very favorite Liberal curmudgdon and coined the term "President Shrub" for GW.

Props to Reginald for a very good effort.

Better go over and see if I'm still allowed to post...

 

[WildCat]

Apparently, the valuable news site english.pravda.ru is a valid source for them. Not surprising.

You mean garlic vodka won't cure cancer and diabetes?

 

[c0rbin]

You mean garlic vodka won't cure cancer and diabetes?

Thats...[hic]..disappointing to [hic] hear.

 

[60hzxtl]

I'd say this was from the horse's mouth, but I know better:

http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/

"We have to take some of the Naudet's footage out (nothing imperative). Just making it a little bit better. I can't spend too much time on it, it's already set us back considerable.

Theater distribution deals are locked and loaded, all we have to do is finish the movie. That means interviewing people, tracking down footage, licensing it, etc."


Oh, yeah, roll out that red carpet Dylan, here we go - it'll be ready in time!

Now I know where all the gold went!

 

[Kaarjuus]

You mean garlic vodka won't cure cancer and diabetes?

No, silly, apricot seeds cure cancer.

 

[Belz...]

No, silly, apricot seeds cure cancer.

FOOLS! All you need is faith!

 

[Apollyon]

You mean garlic vodka won't cure cancer and diabetes?

It does prevent sexually transmitted diseases.

Drink some of that and there's no way you're getting laid.

 

[CurtC]

Give the man a Ceegar. Molly Ivins is my very favorite Liberal curmudgdon and coined the term "President Shrub" for GW.

Props to Reginald for a very good effort.

I tried to find the quote that we were challenged to cite its source, but I didn't even know which quote you were discussing. Was it the "My head asplode"?

Here in Texas, we've been familiar with Molly for a while. I've been familiar with her work since she was an opinion columnist for the Dallas Times Herald, which went defunct about 15 years ago. She can be funny, but her style is kind of grating after a while.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Give the man a Ceegar. Molly Ivins is my very favorite Liberal curmudgdon and coined the term "President Shrub" for GW.

Props to Reginald for a very good effort.

Who?

 

[Brainster]

Who?

Let me just say here that I'm an old fan of Firesign Theatre; "Everything You Know is Wrong" is terrifically apropos for this thread.

 

[Brainster]

The 9-11 Conspiracy Institute Wants You!

Here's a hilarious post from a buddy of mine. Conservative blog, but this post is entirely non-politics.

 

[ktesibios]

Who?

Well, I oughta 'fess up. Until quite recently I thought your handle was "Reginald Kcin" as well. It's the curse of the fast reader- letting neural autocomplete fill in words is handy most of the time, but it can poot on strange words the same way that most spell checkers do with proper names or odd technical terms.

 

[Abbyas]

Barium question for those knowledgable in chemistry:

Would we not expect Jones to find barium if thermate was presend because it's a soluble element that was washed away?

 

[DavidJames]

Barium question for those knowledgable in chemistry:

Would we not expect Jones to find barium if thermate was presend because it's a soluble element that was washed away?

I responded to a huntsman comment about thermate with johndoes comments in the 9/11 denialist on "Hannity and Colmes" thread.

I can't pull myself away from the LC train wreck - keep up the good work.

 

[Senor_Pointy]

Barium question for those knowledgable in chemistry:

Would we not expect Jones to find barium if thermate was presend because it's a soluble element that was washed away?

To quote Huntsman from another thread:

Barium nitrate isn't what you'd have after the thermate went off. It'd be oxidized. You'd likely end up with Barium oxide and various other barium compounds (barium sulfate, perhaps?).

...

Frankly, you don't look for the ingredients that make up thermate, because they were involved in a multi-thousand degree fire. You look for the combustion and reaction products produced by thermate.

His argument is like claiming that a car engine can't run on gas, because no gas comes out the tailpipe.

He sums it up better than I can.