Loose Change - Part III

[kookbreaker]

Q: How many sinister, murderous, willing-to-kill-thousands-of-civilians-for-their-masters secrete conspiracy agents does it take to kill off those who figure out part or all of the secret conspiracy?

A: None. For some reason, they aren't into that.

 

[Mancman]

Q: How many Conspiracy Theorists does it take to change a light bulb?
A: One to change the bulb and hundreds to talk about how Halliburton helped short the wiring in order to get contracts to produce new lightbulbs and raise trillions of dollars to finance the NWO.

 

[Apollyon]

Q: How many Conspiracy Theorists does it take to change a light bulb?

A: I don't see any lightbulb:

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Q: How many conspiracy theorists does it take to change a light bulb?
A: You only think it's burnt out, due to the hypnotic CGI effects clouding your frontal lobe.

 

[Pardalis]

Q: How many Conspiracy Theorists does it take to change a light bulb?

A: I don't see any lightbulb:

[qimg]http://home.cfl.rr.com/romain/pics/lightbulb.jpg[/qimg]

that's so funny Apollyon! lol

Happy b-day Kookbreaker btw

 

[Brainster]

Going back downtown on Saturday.

I'd love to build my own catchy pamphlets to combat the CTers catchy pamphlets, maybe even with suggestions on how to fight problems with government without becoming a conspiracy theorist.

Any suggestions?

I've always felt that the most effective way to fight the nuts is to just spell out what they believe. Fetzer even gripes about this, saying that giving the conclusion without the premises ruins the theory. So maybe something like this:

What the Conspiracy Theorists Believe:

1. None of the planes were really hijacked (ask them what happened to those planes or where the passengers went).
2. The WTC was hit by two military planes. Or maybe no planes at all.
3. The Pentagon was hit by a missile.
4. The two towers and WTC 7 were brought down by controlled demolition.
5. At least 7 of the hijackers are alive (of course, if there were no hijackings, why aren't all 19 alive?)
6. Flight 93 never crashed in a field in Pennsylvania, or if it did, it was as a result of being shot down.
7. That thousands of people are involved in the conspiracy or the coverup, including all structural engineers (none of whom agree with the controlled demolition hypothesis), many NYFD and NYPD personnel.

As for fighting problems with the government without becoming a CTer, I'd point out (especially in NYC) that the CTers are claiming the government put together this massive conspiracy and did it so well, how come they're making such a hash out of it in Iraq? If this was all a plot to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, how come none of the hijackers was Iraqi or an Afghan? If they can pull all this off, why didn't they arrange to "find" WMD in Iraq? Emphasize that there are plenty of things to condemn the Bush Administration for without dragging these nutty theories into it.

Hope this helps!

 

[Class]

If they can pull all this off, why didn't they arrange to "find" WMD in Iraq?

The CTists say that if a WMD were planted in Iraq, it would easily show signs of being from the US so the government doesn't want to risk it.

Not joking.

 

[russell_morris]

Q: How many conspiracy theorists does it take to change a light bulb?
A: You only think it's burnt out, due to the hypnotic CGI effects clouding your frontal lobe.

I feel bad for my first post to any of the LC threads being a joke, but I can't resist:

Q: How many government agents does it take to orchestate a terrorist attack on the scale of 9-11?
A: Like, hey man.. I'm just asking questions...

 

[Mr. Skinny]

I feel bad for my first post to any of the LC threads being a joke, but I can't resist: (snip)

As a noob, you should feel bad. This post will surely result in your being shunned by the entire JREF community, and will ultimately ending in your banning.

If you had read the unwritten rules, you'd know you need at least 50 posts before you are allowed to tell sucky jokes.

 

[Kent1]

Im not done researching this yet, but I thought I would post some interesting links on melted/molten steel and reports from various OTHER fires.


OK so lets start looking at claims of "molten" or "melted steel".

http://www.muskogeephoenix.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051130/NEWS01/511300303/1002
The house where Ingle said she grew up has burned into a rubble of broken bricks and pools of melted aluminum, plastic and steel.

http://godetia.com/dirt/closet/005012.html
Fire temperatures exceeded 2000 degrees. The flames melted steel and turned brick to ashes.

http://www.kthv.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=15436
He says the fire was so hot, the melted steel beams look like pieces of bent licorice.


http://www.coverall.net/customers/rocky_mountain_log_homes_print.html
The steel walls contained the fire, it became like a 'blast furnace' inside. The heat literally bent and melted one inch thick steel.


http://dailybulletin.com/entertainment/ci_3982478
Melted plastic, paint, steel and electrical components from the refrigerator, stove and microwave mixed together to create an unbearably rancid stench.



http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?p=...teel+house+fire&d=ED93WzmtNBh2&icp=1&.intl=us
A study of the 1991 Oakland fire that burned 3,000 homes
revealed the presence of melted copper in over 80% of the burned structures, and
what appeared to be melted steel in over 90% of the burned structures. With respect
to steel, looks can be deceiving. What appears to be melted may be merely oxidized.

http://www.wcpo.com/news/2005/local/10/11/fire.html
The fire reached temperatures of 2,000 degrees, which melted steel beams, investigators said.

http://www.ajchomefinder.com/newsinclude/c.../4quarters.html
The slate roof had collapsed into the shell of the building, the north wing where the fire began wasdestroyed, and steel beams were twisted and melted.

http://www.interfire.org/res_file/fseab_cb.asp
The most obvious reason for the presence of melted copper is that the fire temperature exceeded the copper's melting temperature. There are many documented examples of such melting and brazing to solid steel walls.

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=local&id=4232623
Lightning struck the Starbound Gymnastics Center in Bridgeton and destroyed the center's electrical system.

The center literally glowed with heat that melted steel beams and made trophies look more like abstract pieces of sculpture.

http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t3161.html
State police said a car apparently forced a tanker truck carrying 12,000 gallons of home heating oil into a concrete barrier on the southbound side of the highway, sparking a huge fire that burned for a couple of hours and damaged both sides of the interstate Thursday night.
Authorities said the fire damaged the steel support beams that carry both sides of the highway over Howard Avenue.

"It was such an intense heat that it melted the bridge," said Wallace Thomas, Bridgeport's deputy fire chief. "Once it sagged, it made a pool of it made a pool of burning fuel oil


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/24/earlyshow/main1435439_page2.shtml
Cruise Fire Left All Blackened, Melted
"It's hard to explain how things that appeared to be solid steel columns and railings and everything else were melted away. The fire was obviously very hot."
I'll add more later

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Q: How many Conspiracy Theorists does it take to change a light bulb?

A: I don't see any lightbulb:

[qimg]http://home.cfl.rr.com/romain/pics/lightbulb.jpg[/qimg]

You have won the internet.

Ed Mcmahon will be delivering your check shortly.

 

[Blue Mountain]

I find it helps to run an antigravity scan at least once a day. My computer came preloaded with physical laws, but they left out the speed of light and it took a dozen calls to customer service to get them to send it.

I'm running a popular Linux distribution. It pre-installed three different sets of physical laws that sometimes conflict with each other, but with a little bit of hand-editing I can resolve most of the conflicts. In addition, the distribution ISOs have four more sets of laws, others are available for download from the net, and the -devel packages give you the tools to write your own--provided you have GPL++ (GNU Physical Laws) installed.

 

[Hutch]

Got this from a website that I found thanks to the BAUT Forum, I really think it is going on LC, just got to decide when and where...

ACHTUNG! ALLES LOOKENSPEEPERS!

Das Internet is nicht fuer gefingerclicken und giffengrabben. Ist easy
droppenpacket der routers und overloaden der backbone mit der spammen
und der me-tooen. Ist nicht fuer gewerken bei das dumpkopfen. Das
mausklicken sichtseeren keepen das bandwit-spewin hans in das pockets
muss; relaxen und watchen das cursorblinken.

Just wonder if any of them are old enough to remember the original...

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Love it, Hutch. A worthy update to the original.

 

[Brainster]

Q: How many conspiracy theorists does it take to change a light bulb?
A: You only think it's burnt out, due to the hypnotic CGI effects clouding your frontal lobe.

Q. How many government agents does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A. A lot fewer than you might think, because the government and the military are good at compartmentalizing these tasks. I'd say that it can be done with as few as 100 people.

 

[hellaeon]

Already a thread about the bombings in Bombay, India this morning.
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/11/D8IPSOLOF.html

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=7906

As usual, US government did it to blame Muslims or to blame Iran or North Korea or whatever.

Man, sometimes I laugh, but this is just intentional idiocy. What new depths of attention seeking they go for. Im staggered. These guys are so fuggin STUPID. How does anyone stay rational dealing with these guys. They just come up with ANYTHING to wash their brains with. Its just phenomenal.

Im so staggered.

 

[Pardalis]

Let me give it a try from the "creationnist" angle

Q. How many people does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A. None. Since the light is off and nobody can see, God must be doing it.

 

[JamesB]

Let me give it a try from the "creationnist" angle

Q. How many people does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A. None. Since the light is off and nobody can see, God must be doing it.

Hmm...

Q. So how many Darwinists does it take to change a lightbulb?

A. None, they think if they just wait around long enough the bulb will eventually mutate enough to work again.

 

[WildCat]

Have they fit this explosion into their CT world yet? This one actually killed people.

I was really joking when I posted this... but TheQuest has tied this in w/ the India train bombing, the NYC collapse and the foiled subway attack from last week.




eta: there was a fire in the subway here in Chicago today, wonder when TheQuest will find out about that...

 

[Class]

One of the more outrageous claims I have seen anyone make on LC.

We did not catch Saddam Hussein.