Loose Change - Part III

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60hzxtl said:
Yeah Mr. Pixels' (Hey wasn't he the guy in Superman?) Not beating you up at all, we just have an expanse of knowledge and experience around here.

(My wife calls it a head full of useless information, I prefer to think of it as 'eclectic knowledge.' but often they are equal!)
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I have a plethora of useless information.

Jefe: A what?
El Guapo: A *plethora*.
Jefe: Oh yes, El Guapo. You have a plethora.
El Guapo: Jefe, what is a plethora?
Jefe: Why, El Guapo?
El Guapo: Well, you just told me that I had a plethora, and I would just like to know if you know what it means to have a plethora. I would not like to think that someone would tell someone else he has a plethora, and then find out that that person has *no idea* what it means to have a plethora.
Jefe: El Guapo, I know that I, Jefe, do not have your superior intellect and education, but could it be that once again, you are angry at something else, and are looking to take it out on me?
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Hey, I'd have said "plethora" if I could spell it - as it is I had to cut and paste your "plethora"!
 
60hzxtl said:
Hey, I'd have said "plethora" if I could spell it - as it is I had to cut and paste your "plethora"!
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How do you think I go it? Actually, I did spell it right in the search engine in order to find the movie quote, but that doesn't really matter.
 
azazal said:
Ahh, but you see you looked for evidence and listened to those around you that have first hand knowledge. When new info arrived, you updated and changed your POV, something CTers are completly unable to do.
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Either that or I'm under the influence of your disinformation ;)
 
Here's another post to show my ignorance. From this thread: http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=6702

Apparently the 767s used were refitted military tankers to carry passengers, or something like that anyway. I asked, why would they refit tankers when they could just get a passenger version and save themselves the hassle.

Good old DJ Runaway chips in:

(Jonathan Picture-Elements @ Jun 27 2006, 07:10 AM) Uh, why would they refit a tanker conversion to look like a passenger plane, when they could just as easily get a passenger plane and save themselves the bother?
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Your a moron...
All of your posts show your rediculous iggnorance to anythign other than the little picture of 9/11 that you have in your mind.

How would they pull off an authentic looking 9/11 by just taking random planes they have and running them into buildings. There has to be a back story, planes had to be hijacked, people had to be emotionally involved, the story had to look believable.

So your saying US citizens would volunteer to accually get on the original planes and hijack them and go on their own suicide mission?...Or would it make more sense to fake the hijackings and then send remote fitted military planes which are not easily tracked to do the job?...

Common Sense seems to be a lost art to people....
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<<<<There has to be a back story, planes had to be hijacked, people had to be emotionally involved, the story had to look believable.>>>


Fictional films and TV have "back stories", reality has events that lead to. . .

<<<Common Sense seems to be a lost art to people....>>>

How could 'common sense' be an art????

But <<<Your a moron>>> does take the cake! And somebody took the apostrophe and the "E"!
 
Johnny Pixels said:
Here's another post to show my ignorance. From this thread: http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=6702

Apparently the 767s used were refitted military tankers to carry passengers, or something like that anyway. I asked, why would they refit tankers when they could just get a passenger version and save themselves the hassle.

Good old DJ Runaway chips in:
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chucksheen said:
We are seeking this truth as well and we do not have the burden of proof even though we truthseekers aim to uncover as much as possible. Maybe you could help instead of ignoring all the red flags, smoking guns and holes?
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epitomizes the saying, keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out.
 
They seem to have some idea that something that belongs to the military ceases to exist in the real world. I mean, wouldn't a pilot notice if his plane disappears overnight? Wouldn't the airbase notice that one of their planes is missing? Wouldn't the crew refitting the plane wonder where it was from, and why they were re-refitting a plane, as it's already come from boeing and been refitted into a tanker? But no, as soon as the military get it, its untraceable.

And radio controlled? Radio controlled by who? Each fantastic addition to the CT soap opera drags more and more people in, more people who have to be silenced. There was a robbery in Tonbridge in Kent, UK, earlier this year, from a Securitas cash handling depot. They stole £53 million. About a week later a woman walked into a building society to open an account with some cash still wrapped in the "Securitas Tonbridge" paper wrappers. It's not easy to buy people off and keep them silent.
 
Arkan_Wolfshade said:
I have a plethora of useless information.
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My wife calls me a "treasure trove of useless information" I bet there are many of us here that are called similar by their spouses.

That is the best sequence from that Movie, too bad with that cast it could have been much better.

Jon
 
Johnny Pixels said:
Here's another post to show my ignorance. From this thread: http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=6702

Apparently the 767s used were refitted military tankers to carry passengers, or something like that anyway. I asked, why would they refit tankers when they could just get a passenger version and save themselves the hassle.

Good old DJ Runaway chips in:
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This seems to be the "say anything" school of debate, which Fetzer used himself in the Colmes interview. Confronted with the Airfones, he said first that the hijackers wouldn't have allowed the passengers to use the Airfones, and anyway, you need a credit card to operate them. I don't have a clue where he was going with that. Maybe he thinks the hijackers would have confiscated everybody's credit cards? Or that the passengers wouldn't have used the Airphones because they were too expensive (IIRC, they're $4.99 to connect and $2.99/minute)?
 
Further, if they did get a tanker and paint it up like a commercial airliner, then they still have the task of disposing of those real commercial airliners that were supposed to be hijacked. I mean, there are four missing planes now, and no one would deny that, right?
 
Brainster said:
This seems to be the "say anything" school of debate, which Fetzer used himself in the Colmes interview. Confronted with the Airfones, he said first that the hijackers wouldn't have allowed the passengers to use the Airfones, and anyway, you need a credit card to operate them. I don't have a clue where he was going with that. Maybe he thinks the hijackers would have confiscated everybody's credit cards? Or that the passengers wouldn't have used the Airphones because they were too expensive (IIRC, they're $4.99 to connect and $2.99/minute)?
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Interesting. So in order for the conspiracy to succeed all of the credit card companies must be covering up a lack of credit card transactions from the planes. The conspiracy grows again.
 
Brainster said:
This seems to be the "say anything" school of debate, which Fetzer used himself in the Colmes interview. Confronted with the Airfones, he said first that the hijackers wouldn't have allowed the passengers to use the Airfones, and anyway, you need a credit card to operate them. I don't have a clue where he was going with that. Maybe he thinks the hijackers would have confiscated everybody's credit cards? Or that the passengers wouldn't have used the Airphones because they were too expensive (IIRC, they're $4.99 to connect and $2.99/minute)?
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Post hoc, ergo prompter hoc at its finest.
 
Shrinker said:
Interesting. So in order for the conspiracy to succeed all of the credit card companies must be covering up a lack of credit card transactions from the planes. The conspiracy grows again.
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Ah, that's where he was going! Unfortunately, Colmes cut to another caller or a break, but I can hear Fetzer, "Where are the credit card receipts, Alan? Why won't they show us the credit card receipts?" And of course if they ever came up with receipts, the response would be "Oh, sure, they've had five years to come up with fakes and they've done a pretty good job. But if you look at this one call, it's clearly too (long/short) considering what we've been told was said in that conversation..."

You know, the sad part in reading the comments on the 9-11 Blogger post on the Colmes/Fetzer interview is that a lot of people want him to focus on the "facts" not conjecture--they believe in other words. But listening to Fetzer's debating style, it's obvious that he's aware that he's selling snakeoil to the rubes. I was flabbergasted that he essentially endorsed every aspect of Loose Change (with the arguable exception of the gold in the basement, which he probably just didn't get around to). But he knows what he's doing; he's piggybacking on LC's success with the younger crowd--tomorrow's market. What a despicable man.
 
Brainster said:
Ah, that's where he was going! Unfortunately, Colmes cut to another caller or a break, but I can hear Fetzer, "Where are the credit card receipts, Alan? Why won't they show us the credit card receipts?" And of course if they ever came up with receipts, the response would be "Oh, sure, they've had five years to come up with fakes and they've done a pretty good job. But if you look at this one call, it's clearly too (long/short) considering what we've been told was said in that conversation..."
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I listened to that interview exactly one time, and I can hear the man's voice saying exactly what you've written, as clearly as if Fetzer had said it himself.

I'm scarred for life.
 
Brainster said:
This seems to be the "say anything" school of debate, which Fetzer used himself in the Colmes interview. Confronted with the Airfones, he said first that the hijackers wouldn't have allowed the passengers to use the Airfones, and anyway, you need a credit card to operate them. I don't have a clue where he was going with that. Maybe he thinks the hijackers would have confiscated everybody's credit cards? Or that the passengers wouldn't have used the Airphones because they were too expensive (IIRC, they're $4.99 to connect and $2.99/minute)?
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I thought it was reported that some of those calls were collect.
 
Classic quote in the daily 9-11 conspiracy thread on the World of Warcaft Off-Topic forum (preserved here for when the board mods nuke it):

What I want to know is, who are you trying to convert to your way of thinking? Kids from WoW? There's an army in the making.

I can see it now. Ghost-white kids from suburban neighborhoods tearing down the White House fence and rallying around the cry of "WE WANT A BLUE RESPONSE!!"
 
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