Loose Change - Part II

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Here is a new edition of Loose Change:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZGscWP5Osw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eizeIjRaV-M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlTFcXfx5_0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EoIezeihoM

The debunking edition, "lol Loose Change!" It makes liberal use of our friend Gravy's work. The young man who put it together contacted me to let you guys know what he's done. It was a one man project for a couple of days, and I think he did a good job just putting all the information on top of the film considering that kind of time frame and man power.

Now if only we could get it to show up as a related movie to Loose Change on youtube...

ETA One stop shopping: http://www.lolloosechange.co.nr/

I see that he mentions 911 myths and screw loose change in the beginning, but no mention of Gravy? He needs some credit as well.

 

[senorpogo]

they love the scholars for 9/11 truth. look at this looneytoon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Pierre_Petit

"And he claims that the US military has a powerful antimatter bomb that they successfully detonated on planet Jupiter"

Forget thermite.
I think I've got a new explanation for the contolled demolition conspiracy theory!

 

[chipmunk stew]

I see that he mentions 911 myths and screw loose change in the beginning, but no mention of Gravy? He needs some credit as well.

He mentions "Loose Change 2nd Edition Viewer Guide" in the text just before the url's are shown. He didn't give the url for the Gravy guide, but fortunately, if you search for it in google, it comes up right at the top.

 

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He mentions "Loose Change 2nd Edition Viewer Guide" in the text just before the url's are shown. He didn't give the url for the Gravy guide, but fortunately, if you search for it in google, it comes up right at the top.

Ok cool, I must have just missed it. watching part 2 right now, much of this is straight out of Gravy's guide.

 

[kookbreaker]

BTW, does anyone else find it rather extraordinary that they were able to identify the woman(?) in that picture as well as be able to determine that she had no first or second degree burns from being too close to a major fire?

She was identified by her husband, IIRC. The pics just aren't detailed enough for any signs of singing or ligth burns. I expect the ghouls at Loose Change wouldn't be happy unless she was burnt to a cinder.

They conveniently ignore all the people who jumped from the tower. Obviously they were trying to get away from the fire that was not there.

 

[bob_kark]

Ok, I finally finished watching it. Actually, it was pretty good. Unfortunately, he did end up throwing up, so the challenge was lost. It looks like he was drinking skim milk, I would have made sure it was whole. Skim just isn't the same. Also, there are only so many slow motion shots of milk vomiting that I can take before I get a bit bored. Here's hoping the sequels fare better.

Oh, I almost forgot, the Louder Than Words film was a steaming pile of dung. Maybe next time, milk chugging. Just a suggestion, feel free to do with it what you wish.

 

[chipmunk stew]

Quick and dirty, but had to be done

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/azazal/Misc/Ninjawave.jpg

Oh, that's beautiful. Hutch, do you dare post this on that LC thread?

 

[60hzxtl]

Why in blazes do you call him that ? Personally, I'd call him "I, mean, Dylan" or something.

Sorry, I was refering to "like, hey man, Dylan" based on an interview.

He has his image all made up to be a feeeeeeumlmmmm director, sunglasses on head, far away look, hip, living- in- the- basement -of- mom's- house -but- just -for- now, day old stubble cause I was up all night searching of the truth, look.

But hey, you were just asking questions, so here's one of mine:

What do you know about blazes?

 

[Ramooone]

im sure you guys have seen this already
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1840058038507754977
loose change 3 preview

not only is this a bunch of crap, but, looking at this from a filmmaker standpoint its TERRIBLE! worst lighting, editing and sound ever. he thinks this is going to get into theaters??? bwahahahahahaa.

if he wants to be taken seriously he can ditch his friends hip-hop soundtrack


p.s. i love how the air america station looks like a gym locker room.

 

[Kiwiwriter]

Hi, Drysdale!

Hello all.

New guy here, I've been a Randi fan for awhile and read the weekly articles for 5 yrs or more probably I think, but have never visited the boards till about a month ago roughly after my wife watched a supposed documentary on the
9-11 conspiracy. She recorded it and I started watching it but just could'nt take it. Guess I'm too skepitcal when there's a lot of leading questions involved like, looks like it could be explosions, does'nt look like it should do this
etc,etc,etc. Soo, I came to the board to see if there was a topic and lo and behold I found this monster. Took me about a week to catch up and now I drop by here every day. You guys are on top of it with more knowledge than I could've asked for. Great rebuttals to the conpiracists and that was a excellent debunking of that cockamamie film Gravy.

Someone else touched on it earlier about the interview with Damion, er, I mean Dylan and beat me to it about all the imagining.

Only thing he left out was "I'd like to imagine there is a conspiracy" which pretty much wraps it all up.
I thought about posting on the loser change site but I'd get banned anyway so what's the point really.

Anyway, you guys are doing a great job and I have this thought that's occured to me that maybe can be bounced around.

If Gore would have won the presidency instead of Bush would the losers still be pursuing this? There seems to be a lot of consipatorial references to the Bush regime as a whole. Dont want to detract from the topic at hand but this has occured to me. What's your view on that?

And without getting into my political views I'm not a Bush fan or apologist so let me get that out of the way before I get attacked for being one.

Welcome aboard, Drysdale, and thanks for sharing your views.

As far as the Gore/Bush question goes, my view is that if Gore had presided over the same situation and scenario, he would have been hit with similar and different conspiracy theories from similar and different sides of the plate.

The right wing would probably accuse him (and Hillary Clinton) of continually weakening America's defenses. The left wing would blame the moneymen as before. The nutters would blame the Masons, Trilateralists, Jews, Warburgs, Rothschilds, World Wildlife Fund, Britain's Royal Family, etc., ad nauseum, as before...but connect the dots differently.

Instead of all this stuff about Halliburton and Bush's oil connections to the Saudis, we'd hear about Gore's business links and his connections to the Saudis or whoever. We might also hear that big business set it up to wreck Gore's environmentalist agenda.

But a lot of it would be similar. Remember that to conspiracy theorists, the events don't matter or really change. What matters is that there is a conspiracy, the same dark guiding hidden hands are running it, and all the outcomes are merely the planned unfolding of their conspiracy.

When the Soviet Union fell, ending 50 years of wacky alarmist rhetoric from the extreme right, a researcher asked Richard Girnt Butler what the collapse f the Soviet Union meant. Butler, head of Aryan Nations, shrugged and said, "They closed a branch office that wasn't doing too well."

 

[Ramooone]

at minute 24:30 am i the only person who just wants to see someone run up and push them in the fountain?

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

She was identified by her husband, IIRC. The pics just aren't detailed enough for any signs of singing or ligth burns.

My point exactly.

They conveniently ignore all the people who jumped from the tower. Obviously they were trying to get away from the fire that was not there.

Well, obviously the MIBs ran into a building they knew was wired to explode, managed to run past the firefighters ascending the stairwells without the firefirghters noticing and reporting it on thier radios, randomly pushed a dozen people out of windows and ran out again all in the hour or so window between the impacts and the collapses.

 

[Kiwiwriter]

Whoops!

Pure classic moment.



Well, most people, I think, tend to see themselves as the center of everything because, as Interesting Ian would probably tell you, they ARE the center of their universe. There's a fine line, I suppose, between perceiving yourself as the center and confusing that perception with reality.



Kiwi ?? Oh NO! They GOT HIM!

I have learned that my wife and daughter are the centers of the universe. In my daughter's case, she's kind of the center of her crew of friends, as she's the bossy type. However, she has learned not to just walk into a room and take over. She picks up the flow and organizes the existing activity.

It's wonderful for me to see how popular she is at age nine.

The Buzz Aldrin moment was beautiful. I believe he did slug the cameraman, and the judge threw the subsequent case out of court.

As for me being "got," no, that was just failing to delete a line during the writing and editing process. I didn't notice until after the note was posted. Such is life.

 

[60hzxtl]

Uncontrolled demolition

And so it began. . .

http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/01/loose-change-remixed/

 

[Kiwiwriter]

We're all covering up!

From the video (13:10 in) "There's a lot of this information that has been suppressed by the American public."

WE'RE ALL A PART OF THE CONSPIRACY!!!


ETA Look how cocky he is in that section. That's definitely a weak spot for this movement. Being humble and gracious at any event where we're trying to counter them would go a long way toward winning people over. Watch how he acts around that lady. If you came up to her and confirmed her skepticism with facts, I think she'd be relieved and happy to talk more. Gravy, what was your experience with such things?

The arrogance of these conspiracy theorists is one of their worst enemies. They behave condescendingly, and write off their opponents as enemies, and then trash them.

So I'm not surprised that this guy says, "We're all part of the conspiracy."

Yeah, I've been covering up my lousy math test scores for 25 years.

 

[Kiwiwriter]

Drugs and conspiracies

Good lord, I think my retinas just melted.

Author of paranoid conspiracy theory busted for drug possesion... it would suprise no one. While he wouldn't "disappear" in the traditional X-Files sense, he would drop out of the public eye and be forgotten about while he does his ten years for trafficking. I mean come on, a liberal minded New Yorker in his early 20s? He probably has enough ganja in his appartment as it is to make planting extra stuff redundant.

Or better yet, the conspirators could arrange for Dylan to recieve a grant for LC3 from what turns out under investigation to be a front company for the Bin Ladens or Hamas or Hizbollah.

Actually, I remember that during the TWA Flight 900 fiasco, this clown on Long Island said the plane was shot down by a US Navy missile. Pierre Salinger picked this up and unlucky Pierre put it out on ABC and looked like a fool for doing so.

I got a few calls and e-mails on this (as I was a Navy PR man in New Zealand at the time) and my answer was, "No, we only shoot down Iranian airliners by mistake, not our own."

Then the Long Islander admitted he had made up this story "to give the US government a black eye by any means" because he was mad at them.

His grievance with Uncle Sam?

They wouldn't let him grow marijuana on his farm in Long Island.

I guess he grew some anyway.

 

[delphi_ote]

Ok cool, I must have just missed it. watching part 2 right now, much of this is straight out of Gravy's guide.

He's been very gracious and thankful to Gravy and the Screw Loose Change website. In fact, he's like a Gravy fanboy sometimes, always asking me to PM him and find out what he thinks. Mark just loved what everyone has done and wanted very badly to do his part.

 

[Pardalis]

Heh. I did the exact same thing. I watched ST:TNG on american channels, one hour a night for years. Ah, the memories...

LOL. Comme on se retrouve!

I learned English by watching "Perfect Strangers". Not sure Balki is a good reference tho...

 

[delphi_ote]

Quick and dirty, but had to be done

[qimg]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/azazal/Misc/Ninjawave.jpg[/qimg]

I want that on a t-shirt.

Isn't it fromt he cover of a Choose Your Own Adventure book?

 

[azazal]

I want that on a t-shirt.

Isn't it fromt he cover of a Choose Your Own Adventure book?

Yes, yes it is, first ninja image on google that looked wavish