Loose Change - Part II

[Brainster]

New guy here. I know this is kinda' way off-topic, but I was curious to know if anyone here is planning on being at Ground Zero for the anniversary. I saw DylanCo there last year and I know they'll be there again this year.

Was wondering if a group of sane individuals would be interested in debunking them in person. Obviously the memorial service takes precedence and I wouldn't want to do anything to disrupt it, but I'm tired of these people going unchallenged and handing out their s*** to people who just don't know any better. Especially at Ground Zero on 9/11....

I haven't read through each and every thread here, so I apologize if this has already been brought up (but if so, I'd like to be in on it).

Hi RB, we have a guy who's been talking about trying to organize a counter-demo. Send me an email at screwloose[at]cdwebs[dot]com and I'll see about putting you two together.

 

[CptColumbo]

Hi RB, we have a guy who's been talking about trying to organize a counter-demo. Send me an email at [email protected] and I'll see about putting you two together.

Just one more post and you can post links on your own, congratulations!

 

[realitybites]

Hi RB, we have a guy who's been talking about trying to organize a counter-demo. Send me an email at screwloose[at]cdwebs[dot]com and I'll see about putting you two together.

Thanks Brainster. I think I am that guy though. If I'm correct, I just sent one of you guys an email last night with a possible idea of a handout that could be distributed?

 

[Flo]

Quite right...I just felt like adding that for the benefit of anybody passing through who might NOT know it.

Those who may have been confused by my English must be thankful too

 

[60hzxtl]

Just talked with Universal and Warner Bros. by phone about the use of their footage in LC. They will look into it. Should I steer them towards the Naudet's lawyers, or would they be unable to discuss the case?

Why not! Pile on guys!

Geeze, I can't believe I'm cheering on a lawyer. . .

 

[CptColumbo]

Those who may have been confused by my English must be thankful too

It is much better than my french.

Three years of High School French, and all I can do is ask how Jean-Paul is.

I always wanted to go back to France and take an English course, and blow them away with how fluent I was.

 

[60hzxtl]

Here is a new edition of Loose Change:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZGscWP5Osw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eizeIjRaV-M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlTFcXfx5_0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EoIezeihoM

The debunking edition, "lol Loose Change!" It makes liberal use of our friend Gravy's work. The young man who put it together contacted me to let you guys know what he's done. It was a one man project for a couple of days, and I think he did a good job just putting all the information on top of the film considering that kind of time frame and man power.

Now if only we could get it to show up as a related movie to Loose Change on youtube...

ETA One stop shopping: http://www.lolloosechange.co.nr/

BRAVO! I knew this was a quick and easy answer.


Nice work!

 

[Pardalis]

Three years of High School French, and all I can do is ask how Jean-Paul is.

I'm afraid he passed away.

 

[realitybites]

Three years of High School French, and all I can do is ask how Jean-Paul is.

Try 4 years of Latin.... Cornelia sub arbore sedet.

Huge hit at parties, that one.

 

[CptColumbo]

I'm afraid he passed away.

NON! Mon Dieu! I should send his wife a card. Last time I asked him he said he was good. Probably the only thing he knew how to say in French.

 

[60hzxtl]

The address for the DVDs was Oneonta as well, but I saw a recent interview where Dylan mentioned moving to DC in 2004.

Yes, but the Oneonta address is from the lawyers. They know the principle address; where the person lives in order to serve him.

All I did was go to "like, hey man Dylan's" site and look at it - he was dumb enough to put it up there unredactid.

 

[Belz...]

Yea yea. It's just too much fun to be mean to Dan Brown.

http://www.bookreporter.com/authors/au-brown-dan.asp

http://www.bookreporter.com/authors/au-brown-dan.asp

I... see your point.

 

[Belz...]

This is inevitable. These bastards can't hide behind the first amendment forever. I really hope they'll be brought to justice. Avery is clearly accusing people of murder. This trash is just unacceptable.

I'm surprised this wasn't done already, in fact.

 

[Belz...]

Hitler and Stalin could do that. I don't think Rudy Giuliani could sleep at night after supporting and condoning such an act.

Well.. at least Hitler thought his victims were sub-human. Not sure how that would work for Mr. Mayor.

 

[Drysdale]

Hello all.

New guy here, I've been a Randi fan for awhile and read the weekly articles for 5 yrs or more probably I think, but have never visited the boards till about a month ago roughly after my wife watched a supposed documentary on the
9-11 conspiracy. She recorded it and I started watching it but just could'nt take it. Guess I'm too skepitcal when there's a lot of leading questions involved like, looks like it could be explosions, does'nt look like it should do this
etc,etc,etc. Soo, I came to the board to see if there was a topic and lo and behold I found this monster. Took me about a week to catch up and now I drop by here every day. You guys are on top of it with more knowledge than I could've asked for. Great rebuttals to the conpiracists and that was a excellent debunking of that cockamamie film Gravy.

Someone else touched on it earlier about the interview with Damion, er, I mean Dylan and beat me to it about all the imagining.

Only thing he left out was "I'd like to imagine there is a conspiracy" which pretty much wraps it all up.
I thought about posting on the loser change site but I'd get banned anyway so what's the point really.

Anyway, you guys are doing a great job and I have this thought that's occured to me that maybe can be bounced around.

If Gore would have won the presidency instead of Bush would the losers still be pursuing this? There seems to be a lot of consipatorial references to the Bush regime as a whole. Dont want to detract from the topic at hand but this has occured to me. What's your view on that?

And without getting into my political views I'm not a Bush fan or apologist so let me get that out of the way before I get attacked for being one.

 

[Manny]

If Gore would have won the presidency instead of Bush would the losers still be pursuing this? There seems to be a lot of consipatorial references to the Bush regime as a whole. Dont want to detract from the topic at hand but this has occured to me. What's your view on that?

Oh sure. Some of the actors would be different but the stories would be much the same -- Part of the Clinton Death Conspiracy, part of the permanent goverment (Gore's father was also a Senator), Vice President Lieberman is a jooooo, &ct. &ct. &ct. Remember that around 2000 there were conspiracy theories that Clinton was going to prolong his stay in office by declaring a national emergency and Wal*Mart Trucks were carrying the signs to impose it , yadda yadda yadda.


ETA: Welcome to the forums!

 

[Belz...]

Like Buzz Aldrin and the moon hoax guy a few years ago.

Pure classic moment.

So his grandiose theory was that the US government, seeing this one-man party as a threat to its survival, was wasting vast amounts of money deliberately starting thunderstorms in New York, to prevent him from holding a demonstration.

And of course, it was too hard for him to simply hold up an umbrella or stand under an awning.

But what it really meant was, "Nobody showed up at my stupid demonstration, and I can't blame myself, because I'm the most important thing in the universe, so it has to be the nefarious workings of the evildoers who are out to make my life miserable."

Well, most people, I think, tend to see themselves as the center of everything because, as Interesting Ian would probably tell you, they ARE the center of their universe. There's a fine line, I suppose, between perceiving yourself as the center and confusing that perception with reality.

I know about the latter because the posters and Depperman got written up in the Village Voice and the New York Times.

So creating a viciou

Kiwi ?? Oh NO! They GOT HIM!

 

[realitybites]

If Gore would have won the presidency instead of Bush would the losers still be pursuing this? There seems to be a lot of consipatorial references to the Bush regime as a whole. Dont want to detract from the topic at hand but this has occured to me. What's your view on that?

And without getting into my political views I'm not a Bush fan or apologist so let me get that out of the way before I get attacked for being one.

Welcome Drys. Lots of "new blood" today.

My personal take on the politics of Dylan and LC is that they just don't trust government in general. If Amerikkka did it, it must be bad. He's stated that OK City and the 93 WTC bombing were all inside jobs and they happened on Clinton's watch, so I doubt it's a Democrat/Republican thing with him.

Of course, I guess it's always possible that the Bush family controlled the Clintons.

 

[chipmunk stew]

Here is a new edition of Loose Change:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZGscWP5Osw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eizeIjRaV-M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlTFcXfx5_0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EoIezeihoM

The debunking edition, "lol Loose Change!" It makes liberal use of our friend Gravy's work. The young man who put it together contacted me to let you guys know what he's done. It was a one man project for a couple of days, and I think he did a good job just putting all the information on top of the film considering that kind of time frame and man power.

Now if only we could get it to show up as a related movie to Loose Change on youtube...

ETA One stop shopping: http://www.lolloosechange.co.nr/

Awesome! MarkyX, come register here so we can give you a big hug.

 

[Stellafane]

...If Gore would have won the presidency instead of Bush would the losers still be pursuing this?

Yes, only the conspiracy talk would be occurring in congressional subcommittees chaired by Republicans, and special prosecuters with unlimited budgets, and darkly hinted by the likes of Pat Buchanan, Rush Limbaugh, and Bill O'Reilley.

There, I've said it...