Loose Change - Part II

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ZouPrime said:
I don't know either if it's really anti-american or only anti-Bush.
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ZouPrime said:
People discuss 9/11 conspiracies like they discuss if the habs are going to make the playoff or not; it's just, you know, opinion, and they have all the same value.
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Yeah, Bush really made a mess of people's view of America. The thing is when they talk against Bush, they don't necesserally say "Bush" but "Américains", as if all Americans agreed with him. There's even a new "trend" here these days (maybe you've noticed) to call Americans "États-Uniens", wich can't really be translated in English (maybe "United-Staters"???). As if Americans were guilty of stealing the word "America" (the continent). I find it particularly ridiculous.

I think the way these people are making this topic trivial makes intolerance towards Americans acceptable. This way it's slowly getting in our mores (even in the mainstream media), as if it was O.K. to talk against an entire people. Any intolerance towards any people should be inacceptable.
 
JamesB said:
Well he very politely mentions us, and at Screw Loose Change we give Gravy a plug every chance we get. Everyone builds off of the work of those that came before us.
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Yes, and I'm trying to build off of all your work as well.

BTW, I'd love to have a part in taking apart Loose Change 3 if/when it comes out.
 
Kiwiwriter said:
I can show other examples of this...Tom Metzger claiming that big corporations get their ideas from the Socialist Worker's Party, for example. There was a hilarious guy on The History Channel forums who went into 49 incarnations of the same name to say that Hitler was financed by Jewish bankers, and that capitalism funded and created Communism as part of a Jewish banker plot to rule the world. Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion on steroids. :boggled:
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This "world domination plan" is really long in the making isn't it? These Globalists are a patient bunch.
 
Pardalis said:
I learned English by watching "Perfect Strangers". Not sure Balki is a good reference tho...
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You're KIDDING me!! That was the OTHER show that helped me learn English. I guess that says something about the quality of those two shows.

Kiwiwriter said:
When the Soviet Union fell, ending 50 years of wacky alarmist rhetoric from the extreme right, a researcher asked Richard Girnt Butler what the collapse f the Soviet Union meant. Butler, head of Aryan Nations, shrugged and said, "They closed a branch office that wasn't doing too well." :boggled:
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:jaw-dropp
 
Pardalis said:
ZouPrime, is it me or is the anti-American sentiment in Montréal a little extreme? I mean, it's impossible to have an intelligent un-biased conversation with anyone about 9/11 or the war in Iraq whithout people ranting anti-american propaganda. I just avoid the topic altogether now, I'm so fed up.
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I don't know. In Saguenay things don't seem so bad, but then no one here knows anything about anything, so that doesn't seem enough to EVEN form a biased opinion...
 
delphi_ote said:
And oddly, this 9/11 conspiracy group seems to have a smattering of both sides. The rhetoric is very strange. They've got the militia types that thought Oklahoma City was a government conspiracy siding with the hippies who alledge Skull and Bones members eat babies. They call Bush a Nazi and implicate the Jews in the same breath. :confused:
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Of course they do, Delphi. IT'S ALL CONNECTED!!

The_Fire said:
Thats easy: You're male......
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Ridiculous. I remember everything. Period.
 
Kiwiwriter said:
I can show other examples of this...Tom Metzger claiming that big corporations get their ideas from the Socialist Worker's Party, for example. There was a hilarious guy on The History Channel forums who went into 49 incarnations of the same name to say that Hitler was financed by Jewish bankers, and that capitalism funded and created Communism as part of a Jewish banker plot to rule the world. Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion on steroids. :boggled:
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But that doesn't even mak... I me...t... dkkk...NO CARRIER
 
Pardalis said:
Yeah, Bush really made a mess of people's view of America. The thing is when they talk against Bush, they don't necesserally say "Bush" but "Américains", as if all Americans agreed with him. There's even a new "trend" here these days (maybe you've noticed) to call Americans "États-Uniens", wich can't really be translated in English (maybe "United-Staters"???). As if Americans were guilty of stealing the word "America" (the continent). I find it particularly ridiculous.
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So do I. The country's called the United States of AMERICA. It seems most reasonable to call it's citizens AMERICANS. Besides, why would Canadians mind ? Since when do they want to call themselves American for some reason ? It seems a vacuous argument designed solely to insult "USAers".

Any intolerance towards any people should be inacceptable.
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Except the intolerents, of course.
 
Belz... said:
I don't know. In Saguenay things don't seem so bad, but then no one here knows anything about anything, so that doesn't seem enough to EVEN form a biased opinion...
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Maybe it's just because people over there don't feel that much threatened by the US (culturally, geographically and economically).
 
The_Fire said:
Belz claims to be the supreme ruler of Hell...........But there are quiet a few of us down here whom are not all to certain about that......
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According to your "location", The_Fire, all you have to do is check with your local overlord, and he can point you straight to me on level 4. No garantees about not beign eaten on the way there, of course. Oh, and either wear something REAL warm, or something very revealing. One helps you survive, the other may win you the supreme ruler's good graces. MOUahahahah!
 
Pardalis said:
Maybe it's just because people over there don't feel that much threatened by the US (culturally, geographically and economically).
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That's debatable. Saguenay IS the bastion of the "séparatistes" who yap and yap about protecting their "distinct" culture but keep using english words and American mannerisms.

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Belz... said:
That's debatable. Saguenay IS the bastion of the "séparatistes" who yap and yap about protecting their "distinct" culture but keep using english words and American mannerisms.

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I think separatism isn't related to the US's influence on Québec, but English Canada's. You're talking to one here. ;):D
 
Pardalis said:
I think separatism isn't related to the US's influence on Québec, but English Canada's. You're talking to one here. ;):D
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I know that. As I said, I live in the hotbed of that antiquated philosophy, no offense. All I'm saying is that most separatists see a threat in the English world around them, but seem to forget that A) they already are assimilated by the American culture, and sovereignty will not change that; and B) that separating will not move Québec any further from the mainland and its cultural influence.
 
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