Looks like Korey Rowe was... right

[NoZed Avenger]

Ugh, don't those guys know not to chip "one of us"?

Let's get on the conference call... *sigh* someone filled out the wrong form- we should probably get this fixed.

They're going to get him fixed, too ?



Jiminy. No wonder recruitment is having trouble meeting goals.

 

[ElMondoHummus]

UC,

The best way to "fight" this is like with any other situation, including the 9/11 fantasies always recycling here: With information. What have they disclosed about the chip? Have they said exactly what it records (and no, "heartbeat" or "pulse" is not a specific enough answer)? Have they set limits on what information it gives? What can read the device? Have they identified who's doing the monitoring and conducting the study? And: Are you able to bug them for an extraction date?

Etc.

The point I'm making is that opportunities for proper action may present themselves if you study whatever information is available. I'd consider seeing what you can find out about it. Like you, I don't want to say the damn thing's for nefarious purposes either, but if I were in your shoes, I'd still like to find out what I coud find out about it.

 

[fezzic]

I had heard somewhere about developing RFID chips or something similar for use in the military. The apparent idea is to replace dog tags with a chip that contains medical and personal information. In another article, for which I didn't get the url, a person had a chip installed and found that it could be easily or relatively easily read (I think the words, "absolutely no security" were mentioned) at a hacker's conference or something.

While I can see how having ready access to medical information can assist in treatment of casualties -- avoiding allergies, etc. -- I don't know if it is such a good idea to place all that medical information and (it seems) personal information in a package on each soldier. I am thinking POW or just lifting information about the soldier for nefarious purposes by an enemy or just some no goodnik. Will the chip's personal info include a soldier's SSN? Home address? Name of wife and kids? Phone number?

I mean I have seen the war movies where troops going on a patrol or raid are told to leave behind personal effects and letters and such because that will prevent the enemy from using that information against the soldier if he should get captured.

And, now, we're going to hand a potential enemy access to the soldier's medical and personal information?

 

[DC]

wow
im totaly used to national ID cards and find it a good thing. according to law i alsways have to carry my ID card.

but an RIFD chip? my cat had one, but i for sure never gona get one.

But in the army i can understand it somehow. but they should have asked for volunteers.

but anyway is this a joke or real?

 

[OldTigerCub]

Scan your arm at Best Buys for a price check! then hope they let you out of the store without the inventory control alarm going off. Does this mean your gubmint property? Or just the arm with your trigger finger?

That just reminded me....I used to install and service those Sensormatic inventory trackers at Walmarts. The little pad by the register deactivates the tags (most of them) and might just totally degauss the chip. If you get stressed out and don't want a record of it, do a little shopping and lean on the grey pad at the register, but make sure you hear a thump before you take your arm away...that's the signal that it activated.

 

[deep]

I hope you don't end up with cancer.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/09/10/rfid_chip_cancer_link/

 

[mrbaracuda]

You know what to do.

 

[Minadin]

Oh.... this sounds like... fun....

I had to get a medical checkup today. I'm not due for a physical for another 5 years, but for some reason, had to go get one right away they said. Go now, they said. Pick up your medical records, they say. Head to the medical center. I do, get checked out head to toe. After I pass, they stamp this on my medical records.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Jaye77/Chipped.jpg

I'm getting chipped. I got selected for the 1% of combat troops in my Division to get one to monitor "stress patterns" for the upcoming deployment. I get to go to DACH next week for a simple 30 minute procedure to have this damn chip put in my right arm. So I have a date when it goes in, but no date when it comes out. I don't wanna say that is is for nefarious purposes but I don't see a reason to monitor my stress levels prior to a deployment I'm not going on until another 9-10 months.

Congrats, moon bats. you were right about something for once.

Are we 100% certain that this isn't just one of those goofy military acronyms for something like "Ready For International Deployment", etc?

 

[Childlike Empress]

I had heard somewhere about developing RFID chips or something similar for use in the military. The apparent idea is to replace dog tags with a chip that contains medical and personal information. In another article, for which I didn't get the url, a person had a chip installed and found that it could be easily or relatively easily read (I think the words, "absolutely no security" were mentioned) at a hacker's conference or something.

Not only read, they've managed to spoof/emulate tags (edit: Video). Only a matter of time 'til dem evil terrorists manage to reverse-engineer the chips?


Base Guard: Wow Mr. Coins, i'm glad your security clearence is ok. When you approached, i was a little shocked because you look a lot like that Bin Laden-Guy. Get rid of the beard; how did you manage to get away with it anyway?

Osama: Sorry, i need the beard for a special op. *giggles*

 

[A W Smith]

Your an asset!

This is what they were experimenting with in 05,

http://www.gpsworld.com/gpsworld/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=409699

The report noted that although the U.S. Central Command issued a policy requiring the use of RFID tags to track assets shipped to and within the theater of war, they were not used in a uniform and consistent manner, nor did units have adequate access to the DoD's logistics and asset-visibility systems. More equipment was shipped than required, further clogging the supply chain because, as warfighters faced an extra wait for materiel and limited visibility into where shipments were in the supply chain, orders were frequently repeated then reshipped from the U.S. two or three times.

 

[ConspiRaider]

Are we 100% certain that this isn't just one of those goofy military acronyms for something like "Ready For International Deployment", etc?

Truth be told, when I first saw the acronym, I thought: "Rats, Franco Is Dead!"

Yet why would that put that in a military guy's record? We haven't been at war with Spain since 1588 - and it wasn't even us! So that was a Clue, generally pointing away from Hispaniola.

But then the horror unleashed itself within my bosom(s) when I discerned the actual meaning (you should see my bra, man, I hope that comes out).

 

[kittynh]

OK...

so my conspiracy brain (I was born in DC and my parents met while they were both working at the FBI) thinks this way...

IF you are kidnapped, can this be used to find your location? Or will the terroritsts have to CHOP OFF YOUR ARM?

Hey, I watch James Bond movies.

I think messing with the chip would be fun. But then again the Pool Boy used to have take home psychology tests. He used to give them to me to take for him. Oddly my checking the YES FREQUENTLY box with the question "do you ever find yourself attracted to men" did not get hiim kicked out. Maybe that was a PLUS with submarines.

 

[uk_dave]

It's funny how in hospital they monitor your vitals with lots of carefully placed sensors, but the US military can do it all with just one little chip.

 

[Brainster]

Crap. Alex Jones was talking about this thread in the opening to his program today, gloating about how he was right and we were wrong. He's apparently also going to discuss this thread with Jason Bermas at some point as well.

Of course, he went on to talk about how the feds offered to make his dad a human cyborg. Apparently most Dallas dentists were turned into human cyborgs. Look, Alex, I don't care if you're right about the chips, I don't believe the human cyborg theory. It's nutty!

Isn't it?

 

[Confuseling]

"It does have a choice."

Ahem.

 

[BenBurch]

Crap. Alex Jones was talking about this thread in the opening to his program today, gloating about how he was right and we were wrong. He's apparently also going to discuss this thread with Jason Bermas at some point as well.

Of course, he went on to talk about how the feds offered to make his dad a human cyborg. Apparently most Dallas dentists were turned into human cyborgs. Look, Alex, I don't care if you're right about the chips, I don't believe the human cyborg theory. It's nutty!

Isn't it?

If you only KNEW how funny that is.

 

[JimBenArm]

At least I don't have to worry about them ever putting a chip in me. Who ever heard of chips in dips?

 

[Furi]

Want the REAL answer?

Most likely it is that some shining star in the Bush apparatus is connected with whatever boondoggle-chasing company makes said chip.

And when they eventually DO want to read it out it will be found to be utterly useless.

Ben!, you've gone and spoiled suprise.

UC, I wonder what would happen to this chip if it was .. oooh for example, subjected to a high intesity AC magnetic field, at varying frequencies, when doing that Death Metal Session wire an AUX amp up to a coil and strap it to your arm,

Surely if they just want to measure stress levels they could go talk to those nice Scientologists, they have devices that can accurately measure this sort of thing and more besides *Blink Blink*

 

[ElMondoHummus]

Look, people, like I said above: We're lacking information here. Why don't we see what UC comes up with info-wise before expounding on this? I wouldn't like the idea of a flippin' chip being implanted in myself either, and I'm beyond pissed that it's not voluntary for him, but for the love of God, if the only thing being recorded is some heartbeat and respiration data (how, I have no idea, but what else would they measure in a "stress" study?), who gives a damn?

Jesus-Pete, people... some of the posts here sound make us sound like friggin' truthers...

 

[beachnut]

You were "selected"? They didn't ask for volunteers? You had no choice of weather to participate or not? Why does the word Tuskegee keep running through my mind? I am all for better living through implants if those implants allow me to play video games better but for the benefit of my Government? I don't think so.

Do no join. If you do not want to listen to Gunny tell you what to do, do not join. If you do not want a flu shot every damn year, do not join.

If you want to fly supersonic fighters for free and get paid to do it, and try to avoid the flu shot cause you b 2 busy, JOIN.

If you want to keep and eye on "big brother" so they do not do stupid things, Join.

But if you want to avoid being the possible subject of stupid stuff, do not join. Or carry an extra arm with you to put your RFID chip in, and notice how much stress you lacked!

It will be funny when he sets off all the store alarms.

He should take it out, and put it in his dog for several months; he may get discharged due to NO stress, or what ever the difference the dog shows. I bet you can find a doctor who would love to tease the Army.