Looks like Korey Rowe was... right

[gumboot]

why are you talking so slow? he understands us just fine, maybe you should try listening slower


sorry, your post made me think of RvB, lol

That's exactly what it made me think of too. Heh.

On the point of chips, my friend had a chip implanted in his hand to use to unlock his car and start it. Frankly I think that's cool.

I'd love to have a chip planted in my hand that unlocked things for me and could be used to pay for things. Would save a lot of hassle. Maybe they could implant a microphone in my pinkie and a speaker in my thumb too so I don't have to lug a cellphone around.

Do you have the right to know details about the chip? For example does it just monitor and record information, or does it also transmit it real time?

Personally I'd quite like to have a chip monitoring my vitals and recording them because I think my doctor could put that data to very good use to keep me alive and healthy, but if the chip is transmitting continuously that's a bit of a different story.

 

[ConspiRaider]

Seriously, Coins. I know this is no joking matter but you know how it is, trying to make light of a new, in my opinion, horror, is to be expected. No laughing matter though. Has to be something you can do.

Maybe overdevelop that right arm? If it's a solid wall of muscle or something, that could impede the chip signals, no? Probably you should start playing tennis, you can be the Coin-rena Williams of the JREForum. Play the hell out of that game (assumes you are right-handed). Play golf. Bowl. Hit four-seamer fastballs from a washed-up minor leaguer. Bake. Bake stuff that requires mixing heavy dough with a big spoon, by hand. Make the chip arm an arm of veritable steel, and that should play havoc with its circuitry.

Oh - no badminton. That has a reverse effect, makes your arm soft and droopy and chip-friendly.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

That's exactly what it made me think of too. Heh.

On the point of chips, my friend had a chip implanted in his hand to use to unlock his car and start it. Frankly I think that's cool.

i mounted a chip in a glove to open the door at work, since i didnt feel like going to mexico to have one surgically implanted, lol (ordinarily we use photo ID badges with the chip in them)

 

[Unsecured Coins]

Seriously, Coins. I know this is no joking matter but you know how it is, trying to make light of a new, in my opinion, horror, is to be expected. No laughing matter though. Has to be something you can do.

Maybe overdevelop that right arm? If it's a solid wall of muscle or something, that could impede the chip signals, no? Probably you should start playing tennis, you can be the Coin-rena Williams of the JREForum. Play the hell out of that game (assumes you are right-handed). Play golf. Bowl. Hit four-seamer fastballs from a washed-up minor leaguer. Bake. Bake stuff that requires mixing heavy dough with a big spoon, by hand. Make the chip arm an arm of veritable steel, and that should play havoc with its circuitry.

Oh - no badminton. That has a reverse effect, makes your arm soft and droopy and chip-friendly.

All I know is, it's going in my right arm. maybe the forearm, maybe the shoulder. That's my picking arm too (being a guitar player and all) so if this really is for "stress measuring" wait until they see what happens after a week of nothing but death metal practice.

 

[Confuseling]

...I'd love to have a chip planted in my hand that unlocked things for me and could be used to pay for things. Would save a lot of hassle. Maybe they could implant a microphone in my pinkie and a speaker in my thumb too so I don't have to lug a cellphone around.
...

Someone invented a phone in Japan apparently with the receiver built into a wristwatch, and that transmits vibrations through the bones in your thumb so they reconstruct as voice in your ear. Raises the alarming spectre of people calling you to get to people you're with, and you having to put your thumb in their ear.

...Do you have the right to know details about the chip? For example does it just monitor and record information, or does it also transmit it real time?
...

Surely RFID only transmits when it's pinged with precisely the right code? So as long as that's using military levels of encryption, I would expect it to be pretty snoop-proof.

ETA:

Seriously, Coins. I know this is no joking matter but you know how it is, trying to make light of a new, in my opinion, horror, is to be expected. No laughing matter though. Has to be something you can do.

Tin-foil oven gloves?

 

[Sabrina]

Be sure to let us know what happens, UC; there's a good chance I'll be getting one of those before too much longer after all.

 

[Brainache]

why are you talking so slow? he understands us just fine, maybe you should try listening slower


sorry, your post made me think of RvB, lol

que?



I don't know what RvB means....

 

[Bobert]

So when Unsecured Coins starts posting in Spanish and telling us all how much he loves everything about George W Bush, it will be time to tool up, pack your string and head for the hills.

Seems a bit strange to me that it can be a lawful order that compels you to undergo unnecessary surgical procedures.

No No No according to Korey the wireless chips that will be implanted in our brains will allow us to learn spanish in a second!

 

[OldTigerCub]

All I know is, it's going in my right arm. maybe the forearm, maybe the shoulder. That's my picking arm too (being a guitar player and all) so if this really is for "stress measuring" wait until they see what happens after a week of nothing but death metal practice.

...especially if it has a resonant frequency anywhere in the treble clef.

 

[gumboot]

Seriously, Coins. I know this is no joking matter but you know how it is, trying to make light of a new, in my opinion, horror, is to be expected. No laughing matter though. Has to be something you can do.

Maybe overdevelop that right arm? If it's a solid wall of muscle or something, that could impede the chip signals, no? Probably you should start playing tennis, you can be the Coin-rena Williams of the JREForum. Play the hell out of that game (assumes you are right-handed). Play golf. Bowl. Hit four-seamer fastballs from a washed-up minor leaguer. Bake. Bake stuff that requires mixing heavy dough with a big spoon, by hand. Make the chip arm an arm of veritable steel, and that should play havoc with its circuitry.

Oh - no badminton. That has a reverse effect, makes your arm soft and droopy and chip-friendly.

Heh. This post made me genuinely laugh out loud.

 

[BenBurch]

... This whole thing is odd.

Want the REAL answer?

Most likely it is that some shining star in the Bush apparatus is connected with whatever boondoggle-chasing company makes said chip.

And when they eventually DO want to read it out it will be found to be utterly useless.

 

[Totovader]

Ugh, don't those guys know not to chip "one of us"?

Let's get on the conference call... *sigh* someone filled out the wrong form- we should probably get this fixed.

 

[Par]

So when Unsecured Coins starts posting in Spanish and telling us all how much he loves everything about George W Bush, it will be time to tool up, pack your string and head for the hills.

I think you're meant to dip the string in wax first, dude.

 

[ConspiRaider]

All I know is, it's going in my right arm. maybe the forearm, maybe the shoulder. That's my picking arm too (being a guitar player and all) so if this really is for "stress measuring" wait until they see what happens after a week of nothing but death metal practice.

Well that kind of makes me think of a contingency plan, a so-called "Plan B", if you cannot stop these military hosers. I don't think you can, not from what I remember.

But anyway "Plan B" (although you should still resist capitulation - more later) calls for sending "false positives" from the chip. Make the monitoring bastards think you are REALLY stressed out. Kind of like faking out a lie detector machine, right? This actually could work in your favor - the stress of combat is so great that they'd have to station you in Oahu or Ohio or Ojai, California. Personally I'd take any of those three but that'd be your choice, naturally.

Still, capitulating to these military chip-bullies bothers the living hell out of me (you know how anti-authority I am) and it should you too. Trick 'em? I'm here in Tinsel Town, I can probably get my hands on a very good prop arm like they use in Terminator 2 and the like? Let me know. Prop guy owes me a favor and I just may have to hit him up...

 

[gumboot]

que?



I don't know what RvB means....

RvB refers to "Red Vs Blue" an animated series created using the Halo computer game. It focuses on two opposing squads of soldiers (the reds and the blues) in the midst of a galactic civil war, posted to two outposts at the opposite end of a small closed in canyon in the middle of nowhere, with no apparent strategic value whatsoever.

The series is a mix of some clever parodies of military life and computer gaming. One of the characters is a robot called "Lopez" who ends up accidentally being given a Spanish voice box. Hilarity ensues.

Sarge: Done and done. Lopez. Activate speech unit!
Lopez: Buenos días. Y la gracias da por activar mi función del discurso. Soy el número de modelo cero uno cero uno uno tres cuatro ocho ocho dos tres. Me llamo es Lopez.
Donut: (over the last five numbers) Am I the only one not understanding any of this?
Lopez: Me llamo es Lopez.
Grif: Lopez, he just said Lopez! I understood that. I can speak Spanish!
Sarge: Lopez. Speak, English.
Lopez: Mi procesador Inglés tiene malfunctioned. Sé habla solamente español.
Simmons: Huh, I think you shorted out his speech unit with that static, sir.
Sarge: Maybe Princess Peach here picked up the wrong model.
Donut: Seriously dude. For the last time. Not pink.
Sarge: Lopez. I order you to speak a language we understand.
Lopez: Negativo.
Sarge: Well this is just dandy. Lopez. How, do, we, fix, your, speech, u, -nit?
Grif: Why are you talking so slow? He understands us just fine. Maybe you should try listening slower.

 

[ConspiRaider]

Be sure to let us know what happens, UC; there's a good chance I'll be getting one of those before too much longer after all.

Oh this is just TERRIFICO, Sabrina. Are you in the service? I mean I can't believe you'd voluntarily do this? Think about this before you do something whacko. Would it be monitoring stress too? I know something about doctoring, if it's going to be implanted in your thigh, maybe I could give it a try? How tough could it be? You press a hypydermic plunger, no?

 

[Sabrina]

Oh this is just TERRIFICO, Sabrina. Are you in the service? I mean I can't believe you'd voluntarily do this? Think about this before you do something whacko. Would it be monitoring stress too? I know something about doctoring, if it's going to be implanted in your thigh, maybe I could give it a try? How tough could it be? You press a hypydermic plunger, no?

I am in the service; not combat arms though, so it'll be a while before they look my way with one of them. Plus, I'm only in the reserves. Although, I think they might want to give them to military intelligence folks pretty soon... hmmm...

 

[ConspiRaider]

I am in the service; not combat arms though, so it'll be a while before they look my way with one of them. Plus, I'm only in the reserves. Although, I think they might want to give them to military intelligence folks pretty soon... hmmm...

Cool. But you know how these military goons operate which is why I am damned near PLEADING with Coins to nip this thing in the bud and Blip the Chip.

Straight up on the military intelligence, with what's going on in the world today you just KNOW their stressnesses are increasing. They probably want to see how much they can take before they crack. Sadistic. Reminds me of the blue-ropers in Navy boot camp.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but do you know if the chips to be implanted in females are different than those for men? Because of the different hormones and stresses and all? Are these chips "gender-tuned"?

 

[Sabrina]

Haven't heard much; I'm sure I'll hear more if/when I get mine.

 

[Myriad]

Barring secret technology I don't know about, it takes too much power for such a chip to transmit continuously. Most RFID chips have no power supply at all; they get their power from the antenna that is scanning them. This includes the implantable RFID tags (the cliche is "size of a grain of rice") that you can buy for your pets

Active RFID chips have power supplies; they can transmit longer distances, can autonomously initiate transmissions, and also perform other actions such as collecting and storing data. However, the battery makes them larger; a device implantable in the arm can't be very large (though much larger devices, such as pacemakers, can be implanted in other ways). Most likely, if it's been designed for the stated purpose of collecting biomedical data, it has just enough battery power to collect and store the data over the time period required. There's no need to waste power on autonomous transmission because it's cheap and easy to scan the study subjects as needed. (As military personnel, they can be ordered around, though more likely the researchers will try to instead put the scanners into places where the soldiers' normal routine will bring them into contact, to avoid the chance of special procedures altering the results.)

I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. Misuse of technology is an issue, no doubt. But there's certainly nothing new about soldiers being subjected to things that most civilians would object to. The rest of us don't live in barracks, march in step, or even salute each other, despite the military doing those things for millennia. There's not much precedent for testing things on soldiers as a sneaky way to introduce those same things into the general population.

I also see wanting to study the sources and effects of stress as positive progress. Stress does a lot of harm, mental and physical, some of it tragically long-lasting, to large numbers of soldiers. The commanders could just accept the status quo and say, "if they can't handle it, screw 'em," and hardly anyone would blame them for not trying to solve a problem that's existed for as long as there have been armies. Trying to do something about it is admirable.

U.C., if you're like most soldiers, you are willing to put yourself at risk primarily for the sake of your brothers in arms. Since you're not being given a choice anyhow, why not think of this as taking a little extra risk of a different kind, to help save them from something that lays almost as many of them low as bullets and bombs?

Respectfully,
Myriad