Looks like Korey Rowe was... right

[ConspiRaider]

Haven't heard much; I'm sure I'll hear more if/when I get mine.

Really can't believe it. It's already here.

They'd HAVE to tune these things, right? I mean let's say they put one in a female soldier and then she gets preggers on furlough. That's gotta affect the chip response. Or, seasons. Scientific American just had an article about how people change in the springtime , you know, that "a young man's fancy" and "turns to love" and all that. They've measured that. So of course the chip will be affected once again! What about a woman who gets preggers in the springtime? That'd pop the chip right out of her thigh, more than likely...

Don't. Let. Them. Do. This. Sabrina. Promise. Okay?

 

[Sabrina]

Well, with any luck I'll be out of the military before they get to my section, so we'll see.

 

[Par]

Oh.... this sounds like... fun....

I had to get a medical checkup today. I'm not due for a physical for another 5 years, but for some reason, had to go get one right away they said. Go now, they said. Pick up your medical records, they say. Head to the medical center. I do, get checked out head to toe. After I pass, they stamp this on my medical records.

I'm getting chipped. I got selected for the 1% of combat troops in my Division to get one to monitor "stress patterns" for the upcoming deployment. I get to go to DACH next week for a simple 30 minute procedure to have this damn chip put in my right arm. So I have a date when it goes in, but no date when it comes out. I don't wanna say that is is for nefarious purposes but I don't see a reason to monitor my stress levels prior to a deployment I'm not going on until another 9-10 months. Congrats, moon bats. you were right about something for once.

You’ve reminded me of something: I have a number of friends in the Royal Marines who have served in Afghan. Around six months or so ago they mentioned that a number of US troops had been selected for something similar. These selectees were rather unhappy about it, as you are. I can’t really remember the details, but I think they might have started a petition or something. They were apparently redeployed to Iraq in the end, while my friends stayed in Afghan, so we never got to know the outcome.

 

[BenBurch]

Barring secret technology I don't know about, it takes too much power for such a chip to transmit continuously. ...

No need for that!

There is tech about 20 years old now to use the 60 Hz hum that is always in the air (and any other RF energy) to drive a charge pump. You pump a supercapacitor and then when its full, trigger a cycle of the device. It reads what it wants to read out and the pips out the result in a burst.

Long before that patent, however, I used to charge a bank of "milk bottle" capacitors with the my 150' wire dipole and a diode on one terminal, and an earth ground on the other. Then when I came home from school (I was in 5th grad) I could hook that through a meter and potentiometer to a radio and run it for a few dozen minutes...

Free energy.

Huzzah!

 

[Sureshot]

Congrats! Aren't you just so happy to get chipped!

Orwell rolls in his grave. What a joke. You guys act like this is normal.

 

[Brainster]

Put me in the "That's a little creepy but not surprising for the military" camp. My dad loved to tell of the time he got charged with abusing Army equipment when he got a sunburn while on leave one time.

 

[Par]

Congrats! Aren't you just so happy to get chipped! Orwell rolls in his grave. What a joke. You guys act like this is normal.

You shut your mouth. How can you say I go about things the wrong way?

 

[ConspiRaider]

Congrats! Aren't you just so happy to get chipped!

Orwell rolls in his grave. What a joke. You guys act like this is normal.

I'm not saying it's normal, I'm saying it's inevitable, given the complexities of a diverse and rapidly-changing technology-hooked populace. This is not like Homo Ergaster migrating into India and China and becoming Homo Erectus. We got 7 billion folks on the planet now...

I just didn't think it'd be here so fast. Oh, and of COURSE they use the military as guinea pigs.

 

[Finnegan]

Congrats! Aren't you just so happy to get chipped!

Orwell rolls in his grave. What a joke. You guys act like this is normal.

As much as I'm repulsed by this decidedly abnormal idea - no offence, UC - Orwell only rolls in his grave because wide-eyed political naifs keep citing him. At least read Huxley, it's far more relevant to this situation.

 

[technoextreme]

Maybe overdevelop that right arm? If it's a solid wall of muscle or something, that could impede the chip signals, no?

As an electrical engineer I can safety tell you your theories has as much validity as Dictator Cheney's opinion on 9/11. In fact the only way I know of that works reliably is to physically break the chip. Try beating on your arm with a hammer.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

As an electrical engineer I can safety tell you your theories has as much validity as Dictator Cheney's opinion on 9/11. In fact the only way I know of that works reliably is to physically break the chip. Try beating on your arm with a hammer.

would a lead gauntlet work?

 

[technoextreme]

would a lead gauntlet work?

As offbeat of a suggestion that is Im not even sure that will work. Namely because I haven't read someone from MIT's research paper on the fact that aluminum foil doesn't work to keep out all radio frequencies.

 

[Myriad]

Foil wrapping the arm should work. Really. (Foil wrapping can block E-Z-Pass transponders and that's a much stronger signal than anything an implant-size device could put out.)

But what's the point? So a commanding officer can notice that there's no signal when U.C. gets scanned, and tell him to "take that **** off your arm"?

Why try to screw up (even in a small ineffective way) a research study that's intended to benefit everyone in uniform?

Respectfully,
Myriad

 

[Myriad]

No need for that!

There is tech about 20 years old now to use the 60 Hz hum that is always in the air (and any other RF energy) to drive a charge pump. You pump a supercapacitor and then when its full, trigger a cycle of the device. It reads what it wants to read out and the pips out the result in a burst.

Long before that patent, however, I used to charge a bank of "milk bottle" capacitors with the my 150' wire dipole and a diode on one terminal, and an earth ground on the other. Then when I came home from school (I was in 5th grad) I could hook that through a meter and potentiometer to a radio and run it for a few dozen minutes...

Free energy.

Huzzah!

I think the necessary components would be larger than a battery big enough for the job. But I could be wrong.

Considering that high speed wouldn't be needed for data collection and storage (physiological stress markers can be quite adequately sampled at 0.2 Hz and below), and allowing for military hardware that's half a generation more advanced than consumer devices, we're talking a fraction of a picowatt to power the data collection. But autonomous transmitting raises that by many orders of magnitude. It would be like attaching loudspeakers that chime the hours to your wristwatch, to save you the trouble of looking at it.

Respectfully,
Myriad

 

[Brainache]

Well I for one think we should be thankful that the PTB are going to implant chips in people, because implanting fish would be disgusting.

 

[A W Smith]

try huge magnets. then a taser, Blow dat chip up!

Scan your arm at Best Buys for a price check! then hope they let you out of the store without the inventory control alarm going off. Does this mean your gubmint property? Or just the arm with your trigger finger?

 

[DaN K. StAnLeY]

Oh.... this sounds like... fun....

I had to get a medical checkup today. I'm not due for a physical for another 5 years, but for some reason, had to go get one right away they said. Go now, they said. Pick up your medical records, they say. Head to the medical center. I do, get checked out head to toe. After I pass, they stamp this on my medical records.

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I'm getting chipped. I got selected for the 1% of combat troops in my Division to get one to monitor "stress patterns" for the upcoming deployment. I get to go to DACH next week for a simple 30 minute procedure to have this damn chip put in my right arm. So I have a date when it goes in, but no date when it comes out. I don't wanna say that is is for nefarious purposes but I don't see a reason to monitor my stress levels prior to a deployment I'm not going on until another 9-10 months.

Congrats, moon bats. you were right about something for once.

Please try not to let Alex Jones get wind of this......We'll never hear the end of him predicting the robotization of our military to control our wives fetus' from hovering black helicopters who want to put us in FEMA camps.

Seriously though UC, that sucks man. You should taser yourself in the arm after you get it....LOL...that'll do the trick.

 

[Sureshot]

At the very least I'll give you credit for thinking that is a bunch of BS. But man, I don't care, I would resist that to the very end.

 

[ConspiRaider]

Heh. This post made me genuinely laugh out loud.

I'm glad, Gumboot, that we are able to communicate in some fashion, on other levels.

 

[ConspiRaider]

As an electrical engineer I can safety tell you your theories has as much validity as Dictator Cheney's opinion on 9/11. In fact the only way I know of that works reliably is to physically break the chip. Try beating on your arm with a hammer.

I respect your field of endeavor, but um... breaking the chip? The CIA spooks would have thought of that, in my humboldt opinion. What if the chip is encased in zircon or something super-hard like that? You could beat your arm into a stump and that abomination would still be The Little Chip That Could. Transmitting all kinds of stress during the beating, I betcha the CIA spooks would be cackling in trenchcoated glee. So I think we have to come at this from a signal cancellation angle, not brute force...