Let's ask again: What was the MOTIVE for WTC7?

JHarrow said:
A lack of percieved motive does not alter any other evidence. Many criminals are convicted when their motive is unknown.
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You are correct. Motive is not necessary to establish guilt.

However, it is by no means irrelevant. Motive can make the difference between "preponderance of evidence" and "beyond reasonable doubt"; it can make the difference between manslaughter and murder; it can make the difference between murder and justifiable homicide; it can differentiate between two potential suspects who otherwise have equal evidence for their guilt. And that's just for starters.

Thus, your "inside job" case would be GREATLY clarified and reinforced if you could establish a plausible motive.
 
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Garb said:
I thought it was Stundie who always said that.

And no JHarrow, I wasn't trying to nominate it. No apologies necessary.
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So I write something that is entirely correct and you reply by saying stundie?

Just man up and admit you made a mistake.
 
JHarrow said:
Don't you think shredding 3000 files for no apparent reason would draw some attention? Better to have them conveniently destroyed in the attacks.
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What causes you to believe there was reason to shed documents?
 
JHarrow said:
Don't you think shredding 3000 files for no apparent reason would draw some attention? Better to have them conveniently destroyed in the attacks.
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They could have had them shipped off for "outside storage" or "offsite scanning" to be shredded.
 
JHarrow said:
So I write something that is entirely correct and you reply by saying stundie?

Just man up and admit you made a mistake.
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I don't have to man up for a mistake I never made.

That statement just reminded me of the former user, though I might be mistaken in who it was who yammered on about that definition of the word.
 
lapman said:
They could have had them shipped off for "outside storage" or "offsite scanning" to be shredded.
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Ah right, so when the lawyers etc went looking for their 3000 files after 9/11 what would they say? Oops we accidentally shredded them?
 
JHarrow said:
You don't find it slightly odd the BBC predicted it's collapse 23 minutes before it happened?
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No. As I clearly stated in my prior post, and numerous other posts, FDNY expected WTC 7 to collapse, and I have repeatedly explained why they expected it to collapse. A chaotic day with smoke and fire and dust and death all over the place, a building expected to collapse, rumors flying*, and somebody misheard something ("it's gonna collapse"...> "it's collapsed"). It's not at all surprising such a mistake happened.


*I was working just up the road from Dulles Airport that day. I was informed of the "fact" that the FAA regional control center further up the road at Leesburg had been bombed.
 
JHarrow said:
Ah right, so when the lawyers etc went looking for their 3000 files after 9/11 what would they say? Oops we accidentally shredded them?
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You mean like "we erased the video tapes of the interrogations." Yeah, they could do that along with, "we thought that we scanned everything, but the backup tapes were bad and that darn Windows OS thingy erased everything."
 
JHarrow said:
Ah right, so when the lawyers etc went looking for their 3000 files after 9/11 what would they say? Oops we accidentally shredded them?
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What lawyers? And assuming they aren't part of the inside job what would they want with those documents?
 
Don't you think shredding 3000 files for no apparent reason would draw some attention?
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Don't you think that blowing up a building in broad daylight would draw some attention?
 
sts60 said:
No. As I clearly stated in my prior post, and numerous other posts, FDNY expected WTC 7 to collapse, and I have repeatedly explained why they expected it to collapse. A chaotic day with smoke and fire and dust and death all over the place, a building expected to collapse, rumors flying*, and somebody misheard something ("it's gonna collapse"...> "it's collapsed"). It's not at all surprising such a mistake happened.


*I was working just up the road from Dulles Airport that day. I was informed of the "fact" that the FAA regional control center further up the road at Leesburg had been bombed.
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Maybe so, but the fact it was within minutes of a complete collapse of the building is very suspicious. The FDNY could not have known for sure the building would collapse.
 
RedIbis said:
I just felt like playing along. I know how you guys love to force someone like me into a position of speculation, the easiest position to attack.
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Then why assume the position?
 
JHarrow said:
Ah right, so when the lawyers etc went looking for their 3000 files after 9/11 what would they say? Oops we accidentally shredded them?
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Can you provide any court cases or investigations that have been hindered by the loss of evidence in WTC7?
 
1337m4n said:
Don't you think that blowing up a building in broad daylight would draw some attention?
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Not if you claim it collapse due to the towers collapsing.

Please explain how they could have gotten rid of those documents without getting rid of the building? You can't misplace 3000 files. People would have asked serious questions if the documents had just disappeared.
 
JHarrow said:
Maybe so, but the fact it was within minutes of a complete collapse of the building is very suspicious. The FDNY could not have known for sure the building would collapse.
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Let's see the BBC quote in context, please.
 
JHarrow said:
Maybe so, but the fact it was within minutes of a complete collapse of the building is very suspicious. The FDNY could not have known for sure the building would collapse.
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You mean that the FDNY evacuated WTC 7 and was clearing the area shortly before that broadcast for no reason?
 
JHarrow said:
Not if you claim it collapse due to the towers collapsing.

Please explain how they could have gotten rid of those documents without getting rid of the building? You can't misplace 3000 files. People would have asked serious questions if the documents had just disappeared.
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If they knew what those documents were about they would know that there was something going on in the first place.
 
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