Hyper Dimensional Design

[Paulhoff]

That's exactly why Tunguska has happened

No it isn't, that was way before we did any of those things.

I'm done on this thread, you have no learning curve at all Dutch.

Paul

 

[The Man]

That's exactly why Tunguska has happened



I suddenly had this thought while at work and decided to check.
I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar landing on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.
June 30, 1908 - October 9, 2009 = 36.992 days
Phi point is at 36.992 / 1.61803399 = 22.862 days
we talk about the timeframe around February 2, 1971
a timeframe that showed another 'impact' on the moon:
On January 31, 1971 Apollo 14 (carrying astronauts Alan Shepard, Stuart Roosa, and Edgar Mitchell) lifts off on the third successful lunar landing mission. The Apollo 14 landed on the Moon on February 5, 1971.

So you are claiming a “confirmation” of your “underlying Design” because Apollo 14 did not land on the moon on “February 2, 1971”? Even with your already broad “timeframe” window of +- 1.5 days the event does not meet you given “conformation” criteria. Are you now claiming a +- 3 day window or are you simply ignoring the fact that your “Phi point” is 3 days too early? As I said before if you can’t get your chosen events to fit, simply change your “timeframe”.

 

[The Man]

No it isn't, that was way before we did any of those things.

I'm done on this thread, you have no learning curve at all Dutch.

Paul

Apparently Paulhoff it would seem Dutch has a negative learning curve.

 

[Dutch]

No it isn't, that was way before we did any of those things.

I'm done on this thread, you have no learning curve at all Dutch.

Paul

That's the fourth time? you are just ignoring what should be obvious to you by now. reread the postings about tunguska, you have to let go your linear perspective of time and your rigid perception of causality.

you are dealing with the most profound knowledge you can imagine, you just don't want to see it

 

[Dutch]

So you are claiming a “confirmation” of your “underlying Design” because Apollo 14 did not land on the moon on “February 2, 1971”? Even with your already broad “timeframe” window of +- 1.5 days the event does not meet you given “conformation” criteria. Are you now claiming a +- 3 day window or are you simply ignoring the fact that your “Phi point” is 3 days too early? As I said before if you can’t get your chosen events to fit, simply change your “timeframe”.

You are becoming pathetic The Man. Do you think you an put a man on the moon in a split second?

At Phi point between these 2 events more than a century apart, this moon landing mission is on its way, launched a few days earlier and landed a few days later. This timeframe issue has been discussed several time before. Don't ignore the message given

I will write an update on this next friday,to help you guys open your eyes a bit

 

[dafydd]

You are becoming pathetic The Man. Do you think you an put a man on the moon in a split second?

At Phi point between these 2 events more than a century apart, this moon landing mission is on its way, launched a few days earlier and landed a few days later. This timeframe issue has been discussed several time before. Don't ignore the message given

I will write an update on this next friday,to help you guys open your eyes a bit

Our eyes are open,it is you who is blind to the truth.

 

[Dutch]

So today mankind will cause another Impact in space.
Just like Deep Impact on comet Temple I on July 4, 2005, we will crash on the moon twice today October 9.
I have talked about the Pi correlations that are expressed with the Deep Impact/Epoxi spacemission and I recommend to reread previous posts aboout this Pi-connection.
Its the Golden Mean Phi that unveils the connectedness between these manmade impacts in space, at Phi point in between these 2 impacts we have seen another manmade Impact in space: the satellite shootdown of February 21, 2008.
I wrote on October 3:

So now we have both Pi and Phi expressed in space in relation to the Deep Impact mission.
It should make you think why The Golden Mean is expressed this way. These 3 events are manmade so the communication is 'outgoing'.
This lunar impact is intelligently determined
the question is, is NASA doing this consciously and if so: to who are they talking than?
if NASA is doing this without intent, just 'by coincidence' expressing both Pi and Phi in space with this Deep Impact mission, than its an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Design in our reality.
If the first is true than we have to understand that there has been an 'incoming' communication too expressing the Golden
Mean Phi in relation to Deep Impact: with these markers:
The use of nuclear weapons ( hirhoshima- Nagasaki) and the Tunguska event.
NASA's 'communication' with this lunar impact is either a rather 'violent'
message with these impacts in space or even 'hostile' if the 'communication' is consciously planned.

On October 7 I added:

I suddenly had this thought while at work and decided to check.
I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar landing on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.
June 30, 1908 - October 9, 2009 = 36.992 days
Phi point is at 36.992 / 1.61803399 = 22.862 days
we talk about the timeframe around February 2, 1971
a timeframe that showed another 'impact' on the moon:
On January 31, 1971 Apollo 14 (carrying astronauts Alan Shepard, Stuart Roosa, and Edgar Mitchell) lifts off on the third successful lunar landing mission. The Apollo 14 landed on the Moon on February 5, 1971.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_14

So the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission around February 2, 1971 and the October 9, 2009 double impact on the moon are connected with the Tunguska event, with the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission at Phi point.
The signifigance of Earth's orbital position at this Phi point ( around february 2 ) in relation to the 'communication' that is taking place, the Tunguska event as warning, becomes clear in 2003: its the same orbital position of Earth when spaceshuttle Columbia desintegrated on reentry, on February 1, 2003.
Earth's orbital positions are marking the 'communication' that is taking place. The Phi point between the Tunguska event on June 30, 1908 and the Deep Impact on comet Temple I unveils where this 'Tunguska warning' is aimed at:
July 21, 1945
US President Harry S. Truman approves order for atomic bombs to be used.
So This Tunguska event seems to be a warning not tu use nuclear weapons and to stay out of space with activities like the impact on a comet. I have already spoken alot of these correlations but now it appears that there's much more 'confirmative' to this 'communication'.
Tunguska is Golden Mean connected to the decission to use nuclear weapons and Deep Impact on Temple I
AND
Tunguska is Golden Mean connected to the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission and todays double Impact on the moon
AND
these 2 manmade impacts in space are Golden Mean connected via another manmade impact in space: the satellite shootdown.
But that's not all
The Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact is July 21, 1945, marking one of the biggest mistakes of mankind: the use of nuclear weapons. Its Earth's orbital position again that is marking the 'communication' that is taking place.
Its the same orbital postion of Earth as during the Apollo 11 moonlanding mission.
The Apollo 11 mission was the first human spaceflight to land on the Moon. Launched on July 16, 1969, it carried Mission Commander Neil Alden Armstrong, Command Module Pilot Michael Collins, and Lunar Module Pilot Edwin Eugene 'Buzz' Aldrin, Jr. On July 20, Armstrong and Aldrin became the first humans to land on the Moon,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11
So we have the decission to drop the nuclear bomb and the first humans on the moon with Earth at the same orbital position.
Tunguska in relation to Earth is like Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 in relation to Jupiter, in the 'communication' that is taking place.
With Earth at same orbital position as during the timeframe around July 20, with this nuclear decission and the first humans to land on the moon, exactly 25 years later:
Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 (SL9, formally designated D/1993 F2) was a comet that broke apart and collided with Jupiter in July 1994, providing the first direct observation of an extraterrestrial collision of solar system objects.
In July 1992 the orbit of Shoemaker-Levy 9 passed within Jupiter's Roche limit, and Jupiter's tidal forces acted to pull the comet apart. SL9 was later observed as a series of fragments ranging up to 2 km (1.2 mi) in diameter. These fragments collided with Jupiter's southern hemisphere between July 16 and July 22, 1994, at a speed of approximately 60 km/s (37 mi/s). The prominent scars from the impacts were more easily visible than the Great Red Spot and persisted for many months.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Shoemaker-Levy_9
Well, nice coincidence you might think. Such an impact on a planet hapens only once in a lifetime, or at least its just a coincidence that Earth is at same orbital position as during the first moon landing mission and the decission to use atomic bombs.
Coincidence?
exactly 15 years later, with Earth again at the same orbital position again:
July 20th, 2009
Jupiter Impact Confirmed
As we reported yesterday, an amateur astronomer snapped evidence of an impact on Jupiter. Now, NASA has confirmed the black spot on the giant gas planet is in fact an impact and not just a weather-related disturbance. And Anthony Wesley has now made the biggest observation of his life.
This new impact occurred exactly 15 years after the first impacts by the comet Shoemaker-Levy 9, and as the celebrations of the Apollo 11 moon landings are taking place.
http://www.universetoday.com/2009/07/20/jupiter-impact-confirmed/
The message of this 'communication' should be clear
Tunguska is a warning
Human consciousness must remain Earthbound and we should not interfere with objects in space
we must not mess with nuclear power

 

[dafydd]

Stop posting gibberish please.

 

[The Man]

You are becoming pathetic The Man. Do you think you an put a man on the moon in a split second?

What a pathetic question. Please tell us how much time you think must transpire between a man (or a spacecraft with men) not being on the moon and that man (or spacecraft with men) being on the moon?

At Phi point between these 2 events more than a century apart, this moon landing mission is on its way, launched a few days earlier and landed a few days later. This timeframe issue has been discussed several time before.

What a pathetic attempt to avoid the lack of accuracy in your purported “design” "confirmation".

Don't ignore the message given

What, the message that if you open your “timeframe” wide enough you can try to shove anything through it as a "confirmation" of your purported "design"? I don’t think anyone here has missed that message, other then you.

I will write an update on this next friday,to help you guys open your eyes a bit

I can hardly wait. You sure it will be today and not three days later, as there appears to be nothing 'eye opening' in what you did post today?

 

[Paul]

So today mankind will cause another Impact in space.

Done it, nothing bad happened.

Just like Deep Impact on comet Temple I on July 4, 2005, we will crash on the moon twice today October 9.

So not really like deep impact then.

So we have the decission to drop the nuclear bomb and the first humans on the moon with Earth at the same orbital position.

You've already been told that you are wrong about the atomic bomb.

Coincidence?

Yes

Human consciousness must remain Earthbound and we should not interfere with objects in space

Show us anything that indicates this, and I don't mean rocks falling out of the sky before we even went into space.

we must not mess with nuclear power

What do you mean by must not (we've been doing it for years alreday), and what do you mean by mess with?

 

[calebprime]

So today mankind will cause another Impact in space.

Just like Deep Impact on comet Temple I on July 4, 2005, we will crash on the moon twice today October 9.
...

Somebody help me.


Is this a prediction, a prediction, in fact, that...we will crash on the moon twice today, October 9th, (2009) ??

Or is this somehow another postdiction?

 

[The Man]

So today mankind will cause another Impact in space.
Just like Deep Impact on comet Temple I on July 4, 2005, we will crash on the moon twice today October 9.
I have talked about the Pi correlations that are expressed with the Deep Impact/Epoxi spacemission and I recommend to reread previous posts aboout this Pi-connection.

You mean that “Pi correlations” that you based on a trajectory that the spacecraft is no longer taking?

Its the Golden Mean Phi that unveils the connectedness between these manmade impacts in space, at Phi point in between these 2 impacts we have seen another manmade Impact in space: the satellite shootdown of February 21, 2008.
I wrote on October 3:

On October 7 I added:

So the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission around February 2, 1971 and the October 9, 2009 double impact on the moon are connected with the Tunguska event, with the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission at Phi point.
The signifigance of Earth's orbital position at this Phi point ( around february 2 ) in relation to the 'communication' that is taking place, the Tunguska event as warning, becomes clear in 2003: its the same orbital position of Earth when spaceshuttle Columbia desintegrated on reentry, on February 1, 2003.
Earth's orbital positions are marking the 'communication' that is taking place. The Phi point between the Tunguska event on June 30, 1908 and the Deep Impact on comet Temple I unveils where this 'Tunguska warning' is aimed at:
July 21, 1945
US President Harry S. Truman approves order for atomic bombs to be used.
So This Tunguska event seems to be a warning not tu use nuclear weapons and to stay out of space with activities like the impact on a comet. I have already spoken alot of these correlations but now it appears that there's much more 'confirmative' to this 'communication'.
Tunguska is Golden Mean connected to the decission to use nuclear weapons and Deep Impact on Temple I
AND
Tunguska is Golden Mean connected to the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission and todays double Impact on the moon
AND
these 2 manmade impacts in space are Golden Mean connected via another manmade impact in space: the satellite shootdown.
But that's not all
The Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact is July 21, 1945, marking one of the biggest mistakes of mankind: the use of nuclear weapons. Its Earth's orbital position again that is marking the 'communication' that is taking place.
Its the same orbital postion of Earth as during the Apollo 11 moonlanding mission.
The Apollo 11 mission was the first human spaceflight to land on the Moon. Launched on July 16, 1969, it carried Mission Commander Neil Alden Armstrong, Command Module Pilot Michael Collins, and Lunar Module Pilot Edwin Eugene 'Buzz' Aldrin, Jr. On July 20, Armstrong and Aldrin became the first humans to land on the Moon,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11
So we have the decission to drop the nuclear bomb and the first humans on the moon with Earth at the same orbital position.
Tunguska in relation to Earth is like Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 in relation to Jupiter, in the 'communication' that is taking place.
With Earth at same orbital position as during the timeframe around July 20, with this nuclear decission and the first humans to land on the moon, exactly 25 years later:
Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 (SL9, formally designated D/1993 F2) was a comet that broke apart and collided with Jupiter in July 1994, providing the first direct observation of an extraterrestrial collision of solar system objects.
In July 1992 the orbit of Shoemaker-Levy 9 passed within Jupiter's Roche limit, and Jupiter's tidal forces acted to pull the comet apart. SL9 was later observed as a series of fragments ranging up to 2 km (1.2 mi) in diameter. These fragments collided with Jupiter's southern hemisphere between July 16 and July 22, 1994, at a speed of approximately 60 km/s (37 mi/s). The prominent scars from the impacts were more easily visible than the Great Red Spot and persisted for many months.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Shoemaker-Levy_9
Well, nice coincidence you might think. Such an impact on a planet hapens only once in a lifetime, or at least its just a coincidence that Earth is at same orbital position as during the first moon landing mission and the decission to use atomic bombs.
Coincidence?
exactly 15 years later, with Earth again at the same orbital position again:
July 20th, 2009
Jupiter Impact Confirmed
As we reported yesterday, an amateur astronomer snapped evidence of an impact on Jupiter. Now, NASA has confirmed the black spot on the giant gas planet is in fact an impact and not just a weather-related disturbance. And Anthony Wesley has now made the biggest observation of his life.
This new impact occurred exactly 15 years after the first impacts by the comet Shoemaker-Levy 9, and as the celebrations of the Apollo 11 moon landings are taking place.
http://www.universetoday.com/2009/07/20/jupiter-impact-confirmed/
The message of this 'communication' should be clear
Tunguska is a warning
Human consciousness must remain Earthbound and we should not interfere with objects in space
we must not mess with nuclear power

How so? Have you ever tried doing your “correlations” from a less disastrous perspective. There are countless successful space endeavors, the Apollo landings just being a portion of them. The spacecraft “impacts” you referred to were intended and thus successful space endeavors. The decision to use atomic weapons was intended to end the war with Japan and was successful in that endeavor. Nuclear power is successfully used around the world and out in space, all indicative of a very high success rate in both of those endeavors. Perhaps with your confirmation bias focused only on your own “warning” “communication” you have missed applying your own correlations to the substantially more prevalent successes of those endeavors. Take off your blinders Dutch and open your own eyes, if there is any clear message from our endeavors in space and nuclear power it is that we are far more successful then not at employing both of them effectively.

 

[The Man]

Somebody help me.


Is this a prediction, a prediction, in fact, that...we will crash on the moon twice today, October 9th, (2009) ??

Or is this somehow another postdiction?

It is a prediction that the LCROSS impactors will proceed as scheduled.


http://lcross.arc.nasa.gov/


It is a postdiction in that Dutch did not predict anything (as usual) and simply added the projected and planned impact date to his “correlations” after it was announced.

 

[Dutch]

After I had written my previous post and crossposted it at several forums, I wanted the check the news about this moon impact so I want to space daily and guess what:
I wrote:

I suddenly had this thought while at work and decided to check.
I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar landing on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.
June 30, 1908 - October 9, 2009 = 36.992 days
Phi point is at 36.992 / 1.61803399 = 22.862 days
we talk about the timeframe around February 2, 1971
a timeframe that showed another 'impact' on the moon:
On January 31, 1971 Apollo 14 (carrying astronauts Alan Shepard, Stuart Roosa, and Edgar Mitchell) lifts off on the third successful lunar landing mission. The Apollo 14 landed on the Moon on February 5, 1971.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_14

unbeleivable: there has been an actual impact too!!!!!
LRO Sees Apollo 14's Rocket Booster Impact Site
Oct 09, 2009
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon. The energy of the impact created small tremors that were measured by the seismometer placed on the Moon by Apollo 12 astronauts in 1969.

edit: picture removed, not sure if its allowed

The crater in the center of this image was formed by Apollo 14's Saturn IVB booster. The booster was intentionally impacted into the lunar surface on Feb. 4, 1971. The impact caused a minor "moonquake" that scientists used to learn about the moon's interior structure. Seismometers placed on the surface by Apollo astronauts returned data on the tremor.
http://www.moondaily.com/reports/LRO_Sees_Apollo_14_Rocket_Booster_Impact_Site_999.html
Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact
connected by Phi point Golden Mean
unbelievable
fundamental truth
next in line of thought would be that the Tunguska event and the Apollo 11 first humans on the moon would show a related event in this 'communication' that is taking place, with the first humans on the moon at Phi point.
We talk about April 13-14, 2007:
A NASA Review Board finds that the Mars Global Surveyor stopped working in November 2006 due to computer programming errors.
The Mars Global Surveyor (MGS) was a US spacecraft developed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and launched November 1996. It began the United States's return to Mars after a 10-year absence. It completed its primary mission in January 2001 and was in its third extended mission phase when, on November 2, 2006, the spacecraft failed to respond to messages and commands. A faint signal was detected three days later which indicated that the craft had gone into safe mode. All attempts to recontact the Mars Global Surveyor and resolve the problem failed. In January 2007 NASA officially ended the mission.
Mars Global Surveyor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Global_Surveyor
Panel Says Computer Error Felled Mars Orbiter
Published: April 14, 2007
Although it circled Mars longer than any other spacecraft, the Mars Global Surveyor did not die a death of old age last November, a review board assembled by NASA announced yesterday.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/14/science/space/14mars.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
The Mars Global Surveyor was taken out by Design with Earth around the same orbital position as during the launch, 10 years apart. Launched on November 7, 1996, last received message November 5, 2006.
Tunguska - humans on moon - loss of Mars Global Surveyor
the message should be clear: we must NOT go to Mars

 

[Dutch]

What a pathetic question. Please tell us how much time you think must transpire between a man (or a spacecraft with men) not being on the moon and that man (or spacecraft with men) being on the moon?

Let me put it this way "The Man", since 'srebrenica karma' is on the timeline for later this month

When we talk about the srebrenica event, when did that actually happen?

At the moment the first muslim was shot? or the last one ? or should we count number 6843 ?

Do you understand how silly your remark is?

Its a pitty I have to reply to this nonsense,because other wise new readers would probably think you are succesfully debunking this material, which of cousrse isn't the case.

 

[Dutch]

What, the message that if you open your “timeframe” wide enough you can try to shove anything through it as a "confirmation" of your purported "design"? I don’t think anyone here has missed that message, other then you.

wide enough? 2 manmade moon impacts and Tunguska on a time span of more than a century, perfectly expressing the Golden Mean Phi.

If you can't understand that

well....

I don't know what it takes

 

[Dutch]

What a pathetic attempt to avoid the lack of accuracy in your purported “design” "confirmation".

So you show me what's different than what I have been saying all the time wise guy. There's no lack of accuracy.

 

[Dutch]

What, the message that if you open your “timeframe” wide enough you can try to shove anything through it as a "confirmation" of your purported "design"? I don’t think anyone here has missed that message, other then you.

You don't talk for anyone, fortunately

 

[Dutch]

I can hardly wait. You sure it will be today and not three days later, as there appears to be nothing 'eye opening' in what you did post today?

at your service. do your homework

 

[Dutch]

You've already been told that you are wrong about the atomic bomb.

Yeah, it was a good thing right?