Hyper Dimensional Design

[Paul]

this is how HDDesign works Paul.....

We know, it works by you inventing relationships and then inventing a method you think makes your invented relationships special.

first there's an intuitive thought....the august 18 and may 5 alignments.

A guess or random association with the attempted legitimisation of misused terms.

The only way to create an orbital grand cross is with december 26.

Complete and utter flapdoodle.

 

[Paul]

I said the math is easy, understanding is something different

That is the case only if you invent both the maths and explanation and fail to provide adequate justification for your use of either.

especially if you dismiss the indications continuously

You are the only one who sees the indications, we are not being bloody-minded, we do not see what you claim.

 

[Paul]

good question, pi and phi that is

ask NASA, or it just an obvious indication of hidden intelligent Design in our reality

There are many reasons why NASA plan events for certain dates: availability of funding, availability of components, training schedules, weather windows, fuel loads, positions of all relevant objects for the duration of the proposed mission etc

They do not plan missions so that you can fiddle a pi or phi connection out of some dates which are provisional to begin with.

 

[Paul]

In HDDesign it doesn't have to look like a cross or crucifix. even if the cross is out of shape, the geometrical correlation between the determined orbital positions represent the cross or crucifix ( in Dutch we use the same word )

That statement shows that you have not really done any work on this.

You claim certain dates are essential to form a cross and now you say it doesn't even have to look like a cross. If you had done even the bare minimum of due diligence you would have noticed something like this:

This is a ten day span for each of your original dates, which clearly demonstrates that far from being essential, any position around any date could be used to make a crucifix. The less accurate you are willing to be (seems like you would allow quite a margin) the more dates can be added to the plot.​

 

[Paul]

you can create countless orbital crosses but only 1 is marked by Earth's orbital positions during the august 18 and may 5 alignments

Well, no, that's not at all true is it.

 

[Paul]

that's what I mean yes, in Holland we use the same word to express both

You mean you can use the same word, you can also use that word to express kidney, fork, loins and (musical)sharp.

Don't suddenly pretend you do not understand the difference, because it is convenient. You are getting either lazy or desperate if you start playing the cultural misunderstanding game alongside the usual linguistic shenanigans.

 

[Dutch]

So you have just been too lazy to even attempt to find the proper English words?

not aware that I should, I told you, we use the same word. thought it meant the same in English aswell
You aren't lazy are you? you should have mentioned it when I first posted it.

 

[Dutch]

There are many reasons why NASA plan events for certain dates: availability of funding, availability of components, training schedules, weather windows, fuel loads, positions of all relevant objects for the duration of the proposed mission etc

They do not plan missions so that you can fiddle a pi or phi connection out of some dates which are provisional to begin with.

What do you know about NASA? fact is that the pi and phi correlations are there.

I have always said that an impact on comet temple wouldn't be a good idea.

The fact that NASA 'communicates' this pi and phi connections after the impact on comet temple I should make you think

maybe NASA understood that they were messing up with something that they shouldn't have done.

Or otherwise its the Design that tells us this message

 

[Dutch]

That statement shows that you have not really done any work on this.

You claim certain dates are essential to form a cross and now you say it doesn't even have to look like a cross. If you had done even the bare minimum of due diligence you would have noticed something like this

No, because only the geometrically determined orbital positions remain.

just like the Hyper dimensional platonic solids

they don't have shape, they only correlate with calculated orbital positions based on rotations ( or days if you do not understand that)

 

[Dutch]

This is a ten day span for each of your original dates, which clearly demonstrates that far from being essential, any position around any date could be used to make a crucifix. The less accurate you are willing to be (seems like you would allow quite a margin) the more dates can be added to the plot.​

no Paul, you are completely missing the essence here. they don't have shape like that​

 

[Dutch]

Well, no, that's not at all true is it.

yes it is, think in rotations instead of actual 3D positions. These actual 3D positions are irrelevant in HDDesign

 

[Dutch]

You mean you can use the same word, you can also use that word to express kidney, fork, loins and (musical)sharp.

Don't suddenly pretend you do not understand the difference, because it is convenient. You are getting either lazy or desperate if you start playing the cultural misunderstanding game alongside the usual linguistic shenanigans.

? neither

 

[AWPrime]

not aware that I should, I told you, we use the same word. thought it meant the same in English aswell
You aren't lazy are you? you should have mentioned it when I first posted it.

1. We assumed you weren't that unskilled in english.
2. Its your job to get your terms correct.
3. Most of what you post is babble, making enough sense out of it to suggest corrections is very difficult.

yes it is, think in rotations instead of actual 3D positions. These actual 3D positions are irrelevant in HDDesign

This leads to the fact that there is nothing Dimensional about HDD. You really need to rename it.

 

[Paul]

What do you know about NASA?

Apparently a great deal more than you.

fact is that the pi and phi correlations are there.

Almost anything is there if you look hard enough or reach far enough.

I have always said that an impact on comet temple wouldn't be a good idea.

And? There is absolutely no evidence that it wasn't so we are left with a hollow assertion with no supporting data.

The fact that NASA 'communicates' this pi and phi connections after the impact on comet temple I should make you think

It makes me think you have no intention of critically assessing anything you do; all evidence and counterpoints are summarily dismissed and a new excuse is generated.

maybe NASA understood that they were messing up with something that they shouldn't have done.

Do you think they are in the habit of spending millions of dollars of limited budget on missions they believe are pointless?

Or otherwise its the Design that tells us this message

Nope, it's the ghost in Dutch's machine that invents the message.

 

[Paul]

No, because only the geometrically determined orbital positions remain.

That is basically what is in the image.

just like the Hyper dimensional platonic solids

Which you can't actually explain, despite your bizarre attempts.

they don't have shape, they only correlate with calculated orbital positions based on rotations ( or days if you do not understand that)

Again, the image shows the orbital positions of the earth on specific dates, your dates, exactly what you claimed for you orbital cross.

 

[dafydd]

yes it is, think in rotations instead of actual 3D positions. These actual 3D positions are irrelevant in HDDesign

And HDD is irrelevant to reality.

 

[Paulhoff]

The fact that NASA 'communicates' this pi and phi connections after the impact on comet temple I should make you think

maybe NASA understood that they were messing up with something that they shouldn't have done.

Or otherwise its the Design that tells us this message

So, Dutch, explain all the crap that happened before we had the A and H-bombs, and went into space. NO EARTHQUAKES HAPPENED THEN?

Paul

 

[Paul]

no Paul, you are completely missing the essence here. they don't have shape like that

Cross is a description of shape, you can't have a shapeless cross that is formed from the position of planets on specific dates.
Besides, you said:

"That's a cross, not an X but a crucifix yes"

"even if the cross is out of shape, the geometrical correlation between the determined orbital positions represent the cross or crucifix "

both statements indicating the shape of a cross formed by the positions of the earth at specific points on its orbit

 

[Paul]

yes it is, think in rotations instead of actual 3D positions. These actual 3D positions are irrelevant in HDDesign

No Dutch, it's not true. It doesn't matter how many extraneous dimensions you want to drag into the argument, any number of crosses can be formed using august 18 and may 5.

 

[Dutch]

So, Dutch, explain all the crap that happened before we had the A and H-bombs, and went into space. NO EARTHQUAKES HAPPENED THEN?

Paul

That's exactly why Tunguska has happened

This lunar impact is intelligently determined
the question is, is NASA doing this consciously and if so: to who are they talking than?
if NASA is doing this without intent, just 'by coincidence' expressing both Pi and Phi in space with this Deep Impact mission, than its an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Design in our reality.
If the first is true than we have to understand that there has been an 'incoming' communication too expressing the Golden
Mean Phi in relation to Deep Impact: with these markers:
The use of nuclear weapons ( hirhoshima- Nagasaki) and the Tunguska event.
NASA's 'communication' with this lunar impact is either a rather 'violent'
message with these impacts in space or even 'hostile' if the 'communication' is consciously planned.

I suddenly had this thought while at work and decided to check.
I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar landing on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.
June 30, 1908 - October 9, 2009 = 36.992 days
Phi point is at 36.992 / 1.61803399 = 22.862 days
we talk about the timeframe around February 2, 1971
a timeframe that showed another 'impact' on the moon:
On January 31, 1971 Apollo 14 (carrying astronauts Alan Shepard, Stuart Roosa, and Edgar Mitchell) lifts off on the third successful lunar landing mission. The Apollo 14 landed on the Moon on February 5, 1971.
Apollo 14 was the eighth manned mission in the Apollo program and the third mission to land on the Moon. The nine-day mission was launched on January 31, 1971, with lunar touch down on February 5. The Lunar Module landed in the Fra Mauro formation; this had originally been the target of the ill-fated Apollo 13 mission. During the two lunar EVA's over 100 pounds of moon rock was collected and several surface experiments, including seismic studies, were carried out. Commander Alan Shepard famously hit two golf balls on the lunar surface with a make-shift club he had brought from Earth. Command Module Pilot Stuart Roosa took several hundred seeds on the mission, many of which were germinated on return resulting in the so called Moon trees.
The crew got some good-natured razzing in the astronaut office[citation needed] as the first "all-rookie" Apollo crew (Shepard's 1961 flight on Freedom 7 was a suborbital flight).
Shepard was the oldest U.S. astronaut when he made his trip aboard Apollo 14.[2] He is the only astronaut from Project Mercury (the original Mercury Seven astronauts) to reach the Moon. Another of the original seven, Gordon Cooper, had originally been scheduled to command the mission, but according to Chaikin, his casual attitude toward training, along with problems with NASA hierarchy (reaching all the way back to the Mercury-Atlas 9 flight) resulted in his removal.
The mission was a personal triumph for Shepard, who had battled back from Ménière’s disease which grounded him from 1964 to 1968. He and his crew were originally scheduled to fly on Apollo 13, but in 1969 NASA Administrators switched the scheduled crews for Apollo 13 and 14. This was done to place the more experienced Apollo 8 veteran James Lovell in command of what would have been the first lunar landing mission if both Apollo 11 and Apollo 12 had failed to successfully land.
As of 2009, Mitchell is the only surviving member of the crew; Roosa died in 1994 from pancreatitis and Shepard in 1998 from leukemia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_14
So the Tunguska message IS connected to this Apollo 14 moonlanding mission and this October 9, 2009 moon Impact!