Hyper Dimensional Design

[Paul]

why don't you scroll back a bit here and read again. This is about a grand cross created by earth's orbital positions only

You do realise that any position can be made part of a cross if you do it your way? Your special grand cross is a permanent, meaningless feature.

 

[Paul]

Well , it certainly isn't easy

So all those times you said it is easy you were lying?

 

[AWPrime]

which means?

You don't make any real effort to make a good theory. Your dating is sloppy, you use words as catchphrases, etc.

At least the astrologers in ancient times made a true honest effort, and they got respect. Something you will never get at your present course.

 

[The Man]

We have already discussed this here specifically, do I have to look it up for you are are you able yourselves?

Discussed what? That you were referencing information that is out of date? That your “PI” connection is meaningless since it depended on a trajectory that was changed over a year ago?

 

[The Man]

That NASA was initially 'communicating' pi for them known reasons

What “known reasons”? To whom do you think they were “communicating”? Why are they not going to ‘communicate’ as you projected? Can’t you understand that there was no “communicating” nothing or no one to ‘communicate’ with, which is why they simply changed the trajectory and thus the fly by date as they saw fit.

 

[Blue Mountain]

That NASA was initially 'communicating' pi for them known reasons

Why would NASA want to 'communicate' pi, and to whom?


ETA: It seems The Man has beaten me to the question.

 

[Blue Mountain]

(post 2032 of this thread on page 51)
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I thought Earth's orbital positions could create a Grand Cross.....

The orientation of the cross....

an August 18 and a May 5..... Give a June 26 and December 26 to create a Grand cross........

Dutch, this is a classic example of why we do not accept your system.

• You have taken a previously well-defined term ("Grand Cross") and completely redefined it
• You simply state that there is something you mistakenly call a Grand Cross created by the above four dates. But you have made no attempt to show why you chose the dates you did, nor the calculations you performed to obtain them.

There are 285 days between August 18 and May 5. There are only 183 days between June 26 and December 6. If you plotted the orbital position of the Earth in 2D and drew lines on the picture (one from the August 18 through the May 5 positions, and the other from the June 26 through the December 26 positions), you would not get something that visually represents a cross.

 

[Paul]

It seems Dutch is using the it looks like a crucifix so I can ignore the sun entirely method of making things up in the sky.

 

[Blue Mountain]

Thanks for doing the plot, Paul. As you pointed out, it shows that Dutch is attempting to create a crucifix, not a cross. A quick perusal of the Wikipedia article on the Grand Cross seems to indicate the cross it describes is more like an "X" or "+" than a crucifix:

In astrology, a grand cross is said to occur when four planets are all separated from each other by square aspects (90 degrees apart). A grand cross can also be viewed as two oppositions (180 degrees apart) separated from each other by a square.

Dutch, I would recommend you rename your "Grand Cross" idea to something more descriptively accurate, such as "Earth Crucifix."

 

[The Man]

Nice work Paul, so it seems Dutch is doing a single body version of astrology. Since that specific configuration not only occurs every orbit, but also a similar configuration occurs for every position of the chosen body for every orbit. Much as you noted before Paul thus rendering the given pattern meaningless as such a pattern always exists for every position in the orbit.

 

[Dutch]

You do realise that any position can be made part of a cross if you do it your way? Your special grand cross is a permanent, meaningless feature.

this is how HDDesign works Paul.....

first there's an intuitive thought....the august 18 and may 5 alignments.
The only way to create an orbital grand cross is with december 26.
This in turn made me expect a related event when mercury was at the same orbital position again around September 29 and with these Earthquakes and tsunami it becomes clear

 

[Dutch]

So all those times you said it is easy you were lying?

I said the math is easy, understanding is something different, especially if you dismiss the indications continuously

 

[Dutch]

Discussed what? That you were referencing information that is out of date? That your “PI” connection is meaningless since it depended on a trajectory that was changed over a year ago?

this pi expression with spacecraft deep impact and how NASA was initially 'communicating' this pi expression while they changed it afterwards. go look in this thread

 

[Dutch]

What “known reasons”? To whom do you think they were “communicating”? Why are they not going to ‘communicate’ as you projected? Can’t you understand that there was no “communicating” nothing or no one to ‘communicate’ with, which is why they simply changed the trajectory and thus the fly by date as they saw fit.

ask NASA I don't know. There were communicating pi initially.

Why do so if there wouldn't be a comet encounter on that specific date?

reread the post about this issue in this thread, we've gone through that already

 

[Dutch]

Why would NASA want to 'communicate' pi, and to whom?


ETA: It seems The Man has beaten me to the question.

good question, pi and phi that is

ask NASA, or it just an obvious indication of hidden intelligent Design in our reality

 

[Dutch]

• You have taken a previously well-defined term ("Grand Cross") and completely redefined it

It was posted here back in august that this idea of a grand cross alignment of planets ( 'as above') was 'translated' into a cross of orbital positions ( 'so below') in HDDesign.

• You simply state that there is something you mistakenly call a Grand Cross created by the above four dates. But you have made no attempt to show why you chose the dates you did, nor the calculations you performed to obtain them.

I have explained back in august


There are 285 days between August 18 and May 5. There are only 183 days between June 26 and December 6. If you plotted the orbital position of the Earth in 2D and drew lines on the picture (one from the August 18 through the May 5 positions, and the other from the June 26 through the December 26 positions), you would not get something that visually
represents a cross.

June 26 is halfway May 5 and august 18, December 26 is at the opposite side yes. That's a cross, not an X but a crucifix yes.

 

[Dutch]

It seems Dutch is using the it looks like a crucifix so I can ignore the sun entirely method of making things up in the sky.

In HDDesign it doesn't have to look like a cross or crucifix. even if the cross is out of shape, the geometrical correlation between the determined orbital positions represent the cross or crucifix ( in Dutch we use the same word )

 

[Dutch]

Dutch, I would recommend you rename your "Grand Cross" idea to something more descriptively accurate, such as "Earth Crucifix."

that's what I mean yes, in Holland we use the same word to express both

 

[Dutch]

Nice work Paul, so it seems Dutch is doing a single body version of astrology. Since that specific configuration not only occurs every orbit, but also a similar configuration occurs for every position of the chosen body for every orbit. Much as you noted before Paul thus rendering the given pattern meaningless as such a pattern always exists for every position in the orbit.

you can create countless orbital crosses but only 1 is marked by Earth's orbital positions during the august 18 and may 5 alignments

 

[AWPrime]

that's what I mean yes, in Holland we use the same word to express both

So you have just been too lazy to even attempt to find the proper English words?