How the Shanksville Crater Was Made

[Macgyver1968]

Can you think of a better way to create a wing shaped gash with a hole in it in a very short time?

If you think C4, have at it.

I can think of several better ways. C4 for the center crater, and layers of det cord to make the wing impressions. Probably could be set up in an hour or two. Or bring in a back hoe and dig it that way. Or since the crash site location wasn't critical, just get an actual 757 and have the pilot parachute out and let the plane hit wherever.

 

[beachnut]

Physics is Higher Education, Banned in Fantasy

Which cannot disappear into the ground and doesn't fit the evidence anyway.

http://yankee451.com/about-me-2/

Your video reminds me of this guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZnBkdFooFU
At least you can do video. Did you do the video? Or did your grandkids do the video?

Disappeared into the ground?
DNA
http://www.cstl.nist.gov/div831/strbase/pub_pres/Edson2004.pdf
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris11e.jpg
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Fight 93 FDR shows impact exactly like the shape of the crater. Do you need help, some book learning to understand pitch, roll and KIAS?
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB196/doc04.pdf
RADAR proves you are wrong.
http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/foia/9_11/Rec_Radar_Data_Study_all_aircraft.pdf
Fantasy stuff you have is nonsense.
http://yankee451.com/about-me-2/
http://yankee451.com/2012/09/11/shanksville-crocodile-tears-for-the-fictional-dead/
What happened to the Passengers on Flight 93?

You mistake me for someone who cares ...

Crocodile tears - wow, do you treat your grandkids the same caring way. Ignore evidence and spread fantasy?
I have audio of the pilots being murdered, and other planes heard the screams on RADIO. But you deny they were murdered? Where are the pilots now?

Wait; the pilots were found buried in the crater, or ejected at impact in small pieces all over the area, like the debris. You don't do impact stuff, it has physics, and you avoid higher education. Got it.

 

[phunk]

Can you think of a better way to create a wing shaped gash with a hole in it in a very short time?

Crash a plane?

 

[Slowvehicle]

I understand the implications are difficult to deal with, but the topic is what caused the crater.

A 757, nose down, inverted, at speed.

 

[tsig]

No, and if you're using 710 as an example, considering it lost one wing and part of another in flight, you're not going to have much luck convince me "wings" plural were buried in the muddly ground by the river.

The flight 93 claim is a 757 disappeared into the ground - not just part of it, the whole thing. Anyone who claims such a thing is either lying or a fool.

Why not lying, fool, idiot and go for the insult trifecta.

 

[Slowvehicle]

In your heart of hearts.

...actually, in a crater outside of Shanksville, PA.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Please explain how the two bunker-buster missiles capable of traversing thick reinforced concrete bunkers before detonating 240 lbs of explosives would not be able to cut the wing gashes and cause a roughly 30 foot crater.

One of your magical missiles has to fly in through a densely wooded hillside without leaving any trace. So that's impossible for a kickoff. Then both your magic missiles have to strike the ground at exactly the right point to a precision they couldn't achieve, especially coming in at 10°, before burrowing a 50 foot trench and exploding in the middle. Here's a bit of fun for you: what precision would the missile's flight path have to achieve in order to strike the ground within, say, 3 feet of where you needed it to land, and how does that compare to the spec of the missile you chose?

You have failed to show that anything of the sort is possible.

Then of course the NWO agents have to arrive and dress up the scene with 757 debris, fake the radar, fake the passengers, fake... Well, you heard it all before. It's laughable stuff.

 

[yankee451]

I can think of several better ways. C4 for the center crater, and layers of det cord to make the wing impressions. Probably could be set up in an hour or two. Or bring in a back hoe and dig it that way. Or since the crash site location wasn't critical, just get an actual 757 and have the pilot parachute out and let the plane hit wherever.

How would the locals not notice? Were they all in on it?

Wouldn't a backhoe also chew up the ground around the crater?

 

[aggle-rithm]

One of your magical missiles has to fly in through a densely wooded hillside without leaving any trace. So that's impossible for a kickoff. Then both your magic missiles have to strike the ground at exactly the right point to a precision they couldn't achieve, especially coming in at 10°, before burrowing a 50 foot trench and exploding in the middle. Here's a bit of fun for you: what precision would the missile's flight path have to achieve in order to strike the ground within, say, 3 feet of where you needed it to land, and how does that compare to the spec of the missile you chose?

You have failed to show that anything of the sort is possible.

Then of course the NWO agents have to arrive and dress up the scene with 757 debris, fake the radar, fake the passengers, fake... Well, you heard it all before. It's laughable stuff.

If your remember, the crack investigative team behind Loose Change solved the mystery of Shanksville early on. An eyewitness at the scene was quoted as saying that it looked like a truck had just pulled up and dumped a bunch of debris in the hole.

Since things can only be what they look like to eyewitnesses, it could not have been missiles. Otherwise, the eyewitnesses would have said "It looked like missiles".

 

[yankee451]

One of your magical missiles has to fly in through a densely wooded hillside without leaving any trace. So that's impossible for a kickoff. Then both your magic missiles have to strike the ground at exactly the right point to a precision they couldn't achieve, especially coming in at 10°, before burrowing a 50 foot trench and exploding in the middle. Here's a bit of fun for you: what precision would the missile's flight path have to achieve in order to strike the ground within, say, 3 feet of where you needed it to land, and how does that compare to the spec of the missile you chose?

You have failed to show that anything of the sort is possible.

Then of course the NWO agents have to arrive and dress up the scene with 757 debris, fake the radar, fake the passengers, fake... Well, you heard it all before. It's laughable stuff.

I suspect their first try DID hit a tree, hence the burned woods and the tree snapped right down the middle.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

He knows it was flight 93, and you people are just playing along with him.

We know. It's been obvious since almost the very beginning. It's just a game to him.

I suppose indulging someone who daily insults the memory of murder victims is morally dubious but on the other hand pointing out how utterly wrong they are still feels like the right thing to do even when you're sure they're insincere.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I suspect their first try DID hit a tree, hence the burned woods and the tree snapped right down the middle.

I guess the hill ducked out of the way for the second shot.

 

[yankee451]

We know. It's been obvious since almost the very beginning. It's just a game to him.

I suppose indulging someone who daily insults the memory of murder victims is morally dubious but on the other hand pointing out how utterly wrong they are still feels like the right thing to do even when you're sure they're insincere.

I am not the one slinging insults. When I try mine are removed, so i'm mister polite now.

What murder victims? Missiles don't carry passengers.

 

[JohnG]

How would the locals not notice? Were they all in on it?

Wouldn't a backhoe also chew up the ground around the crater?

I applaud your burgeoning skepticism. Keep at it!

 

[phunk]

I am not the one sliging insults. When I try mine are removed, so i'm mister polite now.

What murder victims? Missiles don't carry passengers.

What missiles? Missiles don't carry 100 tons of plane debris and body parts.

 

[yankee451]

I guess the hill ducked out of the way for the second shot.

What does the term "terrain hugging cruise missile" mean to you?

 

[yankee451]

What missiles? Missiles don't carry 100 tons of plane debris and body parts.

The vast majority of which was not visible from the air and had to be unearthed from under the soil, contrary to every other jet crash in history.

 

[phunk]

What does the term "terrain hugging cruise missile" mean to you?

I'm curious what it means to you. How low do you think they fly?

 

[Jack by the hedge]

What murder victims?

Did you miss a meeting Agent 451? The NWO Cabal carefully planted the DNA of a large group of people all over the crash site. It was a huge operation conducted in great haste. The sky was black with helicopters.

Missiles don't carry passengers.

Exactly. They had to plant all the DNA and 757 debris evidence on the site and clear away all your missile junk because your plan of using missiles spoiled the original plan to just crash a plane.

Number One is very cross about that. Can you imagine how many air traffic controllers we've had to erase and replace with Agents? The plastic surgery bill alone is killing us.

And then there's all the 'victims' families, friends and work colleagues. Brains don't wash themselves you know and we've had to rush every available Agent through How to Use a Neuralyser 101. There have been some very embarrassing accidents.

 

[yankee451]

I applaud your burgeoning skepticism. Keep at it!

You just wish you'd thought of it. The ground wasn't chewed up so that leaves out heavy equipment. Plus it would be hard to convince locals it was a jet crash in such a case, so were they all in on it (as you would say)?