How the Shanksville Crater Was Made

[yankee451]

Your claim is a work of fiction. LOL, I know you hold education up for ridicule, and you don't have a clue how a wing is made, but try to do simple reading comprehension.

Here is where book learning comes in handy.

He said your idiotic claim of missiles is fiction. Book learning.

BINGO

You have the most insane claim made on Flight 93.

What happened to the Passengers on Flight 93?
Your grandkids will be so proud you make fun of people murdered on 911. What a legacy, insane claims, anti-education, anti-USA, pure BS.

Even your paraphrasing is wrong and repetitive.

 

[dafydd]

Even your paraphrasing is wrong and repetitive.

Be a devil and actually answer a question, just for a change. What happened to the passengers? If you do not answer then we will take it that you agree that they existed.

 

[jaydeehess]

Now you need to prove JASSM missiles (or indeed, any kind of missiles) made the crater.


600-plus posts in, you've failed to do this.

OMG that's so true. If only someone had pointed that out to yankee451 earlier we could have really shortened this thread,,,,,,,,,,,,,, oh ,,,,,,, wait,,,,,

So all we need now is a picture of a JASSM crater, several into different types of terrain would be best, and then a demonstration that three can be sent into the air and have the best two perform a head on collssion at ground level minus approx 10 feet.

I actually laugh out loud as I post this.

 

[yankee451]

Funny that you should say that:



Which is the part I was referring to when I said that one is a work of fiction.

So where did I claim that JSSM were a work of fiction again? Or will you admit you're wrong and retract your statement?

Touche, I stand corrected.

I mistook you for beachnut. You all sound the same, you understand, so forgive me for skimming.

So you don't believe the JASSMs weren't in existence, thanks.

 

[NoahFence]

Yoda: 'Back, I take it. This is why you fail.'

He's not failing. He's suceeding immeasurably.

He knows damn well what happened in Shanksville, that flight 93 crashed there.

 

[dafydd]

Touche, I stand corrected.

I mistook you for beachnut. You all sound the same, you understand, so forgive me for skimming.

So you don't believe the JASSMs weren't in existence, thanks.

He didn't say that. Cheerio, your trolling has been entertaining but now it is getting boring. On ignore you go.

 

[BCR]

I mistook you for beachnut. You all sound the same, you understand, so forgive me for skimming.

Yes, that is a common problem with people like you. I get the same type of response from people on FB trying to push this stuff.

Erik Shiehk -> AND the commission report didnt answer most of the questions and the ones it did answer was a low percentage with many anomolies .. but John Farmer (no coincidence that Ground Truth was written by a a guy with the same name ) ... you're not here to except to go along with the official story and you probably agree with the popular science mythbusting article on this topic as well ..

Wow. You guys really need to get some help.

 

[jaydeehess]

So you don't believe the JASSMs weren't in existence, thanks.

Could you restate that without the double negative?

 

[JimBenArm]

Touche, I stand corrected.

I mistook you for beachnut. You all sound the same, you understand, so forgive me for skimming.

So you don't believe the JASSMs weren't in existence, thanks.

"You all sound the same."

Hmm. This sounds strangely familiar.

Oh, yeah, I remember! "All you (naughty word for blacks) look alike!"

Funny how stupidity doesn't change through the years.

 

[aggle-rithm]

"You all sound the same."

Hmm. This sounds strangely familiar.

Oh, yeah, I remember! "All you (naughty word for blacks) look alike!"

Funny how stupidity doesn't change through the years.

Plus, NOBODY sounds like Beachnut!

 

[FFed]

So what evidence would you accept that proves it was an airplane?

 

[yankee451]

The case against your fantasy has been stated ad nauseam. And you presented your own mad fantasy so you don't get to hide behind pretending you're 'only the messenger'. You pulled all of this out of your own backside. Nobody else made it up for you. Genuine truthers spurn you.

Yes, this is all mine, and no, they don't. Do you even know any "genuine truthers"? What constitutes a "truther" anyway, or a "genuine" one for that matter? Someone who seeks the truth? Well, the truth hurts mister.

Missiles do not fit the bill. You have never shown one scrap of evidence that they do, and have repeatedly been told why your scenario is physically impossible. Your only objection to its having been a jet is that a bunch of different crash sites look different to you. Fail.

I have been told many things, but no one has backed up their words with evidence ('cept yours truly).

Your version cannot explain how the Shanksville crater was made because it is physically impossible, but quite apart from that it is perfectly reasonable and pertinent to the topic to point out that your version has implictions which make the plot so needlessly complicated, so unlikely to succeed and virtually guaranteed to be discovered that it becomes utterly implausible that anyone would be dunderheaded enough to do it that way.

Please explain how the two bunker-buster missiles capable of traversing thick reinforced concrete bunkers before detonating 240 lbs of explosives would not be able to cut the wing gashes and cause a roughly 30 foot crater.

A 500 pound
bomb containing about 200 pounds of explosive blows about a 30
foot diameter crater perhaps 11 feet deep in loose soil.
http://yarchive.net/explosives/avalanche.html

 

[yankee451]

So what evidence would you accept that proves it was an airplane?

Demonstrate how the wing gash and central crater are more consistent with a jet crash than with two dense metal 12x60 inch penetrating warheads striking in crossfire at glancing oblique trajectories, around 10 degrees from horizontal.

 

[yankee451]

"You all sound the same."

Hmm. This sounds strangely familiar.

Oh, yeah, I remember! "All you (naughty word for blacks) look alike!"

Funny how stupidity doesn't change through the years.

oh boy - desperate men do desperate deeds

 

[DGM]

So what evidence would you accept that proves it was an airplane?

Transport him back to Shanksville on 9/11 to see it using a time machine.

 

[Ape of Good Hope]

Demonstrate how the wing gash and central crater is more consistent with a jet crash than with two dense metal 12x60 inch penetrating warheads striking in crossfire at glancing oblique trajectories, around 10 degrees from horizontal.

“These blast points — too accurate for sandpeople. Only imperial stormtroopers are so precise.”

 

[yankee451]

Could you restate that without the double negative?

"So you believe the JASSMs were in existence, in opposition with the rest of your clique"

I appreciate the grammar corrections, but I was hoping for something more substantial. I also notice none of you correct the grammar of your brethren.

 

[jaydeehess]

lease explain how the two bunker-buster missiles capable of traversing thick reinforced concrete bunkers before detonating 240 lbs of explosives would not be able to cut the wing gashes and cause a roughly 30 foot crater.

Its your claim, prove they CAN do it rather than require those who don't believe your bit of pure speculation to prove you wrong.

You realise that your bassackwards requirement opens you up to having to prove that pixies with evil magical dust couldn't do it, right?

 

[Mudcat]

So you don't believe the JASSMs weren't in existence, thanks.

Certainly experimental versions of JASSM existed at the time, as Lockheed had been performing powered flight tests of the missiles since 1999, but they didn't begin production until Deccember of 2001 three months after 9/11.

Sorry, but it doesn't help your 'theory' at all.

 

[jaydeehess]

"So you believe the JASSMs were in existence, in opposition with the rest of your clique"

I appreciate the grammar corrections, but I was hoping for something more substantial. I also notice none of you correct the grammar of your brethren.

In this case I was truly unsure of what you were trying to say and thus asking for confirmation. That's the main trouble with double negatives, they are often ambiguous.

Personally it lookslikely that JASSM were not in existance in 2001 but even if they were you have not demonstated that they made the crater, that they can be made to hit each other's track at exactly 180 degrees along the line of travel, or that they could indeed create the crater seen.

Until that time your contention is nothing greater than a work of fiction.