How the Shanksville Crater Was Made

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yankee451 said:
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According to Google Earth the road is a little over 25' wide at that point. That makes your green line 150' long. The wing span of a 757 is 124' 10".
 
Heh I'm dieing of laughter here Lefty, waypast.

I had no idea you could measure the size of something like an airliner on the ground like that. Where is or was that one at, by the way?
 
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yankee451 said:
Caspian flight 7908
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Why would you post a picture of the Caspian Airlines crash? This crash was no where near to being similar to the Shanksville crash, both in the type of aircraft, and the AOA. Not to mention the difference in the type of soil.
 
dafydd said:
You'd think that the phrase ''unpaved dirt road'' would suggest that there is no crushed rock base, but we are in Trutherland here so anything is possible, except the truth.
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You'd think that someone who's basing his entire case on how the crater looks would know how the crater looks.
 
yankee451 said:
The point was "compared to his proof" my margine of error is zero, because you see, he hasn't provided any.
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What argument did I make that you were comparing to? I was pointing out the flaw in your argument, not offering my own. And you completely failed to address any of my questions, you just dodged.

Again, if your measurement is off by only a few percent, then the green line in your picture is significantly wider than the plane's wingspan. What proof do you have that your 20 foot measurement is accurate? None. You have a guess about an average size of a lane in a different type of road.
 
waypastvne said:
According to Google Earth the road is a little over 25' wide at that point. That makes your green line 150' long. The wing span of a 757 is 124' 10".
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Oh come on, you expect us to believe that google earth is more accurate than yankee's guestimate? :D
 
Honest to God, I haven't been able to keep up with this thread. The last time something like this happened, it was something to do with the Birthers. Both are equally silly - they belong on the Bizarro world, or Idiocracy.
 
I thought Idiocracy was the capital of Bizarro World?
 
yankee451 said:
So, two pyrex spheres striking from the inside-out?

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Or two missiles striking from the outside-in?

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One of these images has been faked by someone trying to present fraudulent evidence about an event that couldn't have happened in the way it is alleged to have happened in an attempt to hide the truth.

The other is of flight 93.
 
yankee451 said:
Anyone want to explain better than I have how a 757 can disappear into the ground?
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Wow... You're really new to this aren't you? I remember when it had to be a "shoot down" because the debris was so far away.
 
waypastvne said:
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Just incase you're wondering how accurate the Google earth ruler is.
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That is a pretty darned cool-tool, isn't it? Just goes to show you these little forays into the "real" world don't always come up empty handed. Once again I am in your debt.

I'd have to say that's not a hair I'm willing to split. Not that I don't trust you, but I checked by measuring the house, which comes to about 83 feet, so yes, compared to the house, that looks pretty close to 124 feet.

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Thanks for both the photo and the tool. I have conceded the length of the gash does indeed roughly fit the wingspan of a 757, so what happens now?
 
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threadworm said:
One of these images has been faked by someone trying to present fraudulent evidence about an event that couldn't have happened in the way it is alleged to have happened in an attempt to hide the truth.

The other is of flight 93.
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Both of the images were altered as a way to communicate a solution to a problem that has stumped all the smart people for more than a decade.

Leave up to a guy like me to fall back-asswards into it, eh? Why, oh why couldn't it have been someone with a PhD.
 
phunk said:
Oh come on, you expect us to believe that google earth is more accurate than yankee's guestimate? :D
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My guestimate was pretty close to Google Earth's and compared to yours, my margine of error was zero.
 
yankee451 said:
Both of the images were altered as a way to communicate a solution to a problem that has stumped all the smart people for more than a decade.

Leave up to a guy like me to fall back-asswards into it, eh? Why, oh why couldn't it have been someone with a PhD.
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A PhD would know better. So does at least one retired mess sergeant. You didn't account for the tail mark, or the fact that all the ejecta from the hole is projected down-range, over a ridge of pushed-up soil.
 
leftysergeant said:
A PhD would know better. So does at least one retired mess sergeant. You didn't account for the tail mark, or the fact that all the ejecta from the hole is projected down-range, over a ridge of pushed-up soil.
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Anyone who's ever shot a gun into the ground just to see what it would do knows it was missiles.

Any red-blooded Anerican boy with a bottle rocket knows missiles dunnit.

Even barnyard animals can tell it was missiles.

Why can't the PhDs?
 
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