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Can I ask something?

I started this thread. I would prefer that the OP would be discussed in it. I do not wish thread to become a discussion with KK. If you want to, you are free to start a new one.

I do not demand that; but I politely ask.
 
Sideroxylon said:
There are hundreds of millions of Muslims who also know in their hearts they are right. You would probably say they are condemned to hell for not accepting Jesus as the son of God and his sacrifice for our sins made in your narrative. They would say this was rather your fate. They have the Quran, which they say is the final word of God. It seems one group must be very wrong so can we rely on our feelings?

How could anyone determine if this feeling of certainty was coming from God, their own wishful thinking, the Matrix, Satan or other mischevious entity?
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I know the Bible is the inspired word of God, but the Quran most certainly is not!
 
JetLeg said:
Can I ask something?

I started this thread. I would prefer that the OP would be discussed in it. I do not wish thread to become a discussion with KK. If you want to, you are free to start a new one.

I do not demand that; but I politely ask.
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This is fine with me. I love talking about the rapture and things pertaining to the end of times. What I am most upset with these days is what Obama is doing. He wants me to be considered a terrorist for this belief? I am in no way harming people when I warn people of judgement day. Jesus is coming and the Lord asks people to receive him and repent to be saved. How the heck does this belief make me a terrorist?? Why doesn't Obama focus on protecting us from the real terrorists who send bombs???
 
Lucian said:
Because she knows. Duh. And as for those crazy, wacky, goofy Muslims who think the Quran is true, well they're wrong, because it's not true. Double duh.
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Well according to KK the vast majority of Christians(ie. Catholics) are also wrong and doomed to hell.
 
paximperium said:
Well according to KK the vast majority of Christians(ie. Catholics) are also wrong and doomed to hell.
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Well, sure, because she has it right and they have it wrong. We know this to be the case because she's told us. I mean, the logic's absolutely infallible.


Or am I just having a stroke?
 
JetLeg said:
Can I ask something?

I started this thread. I would prefer that the OP would be discussed in it. I do not wish thread to become a discussion with KK. If you want to, you are free to start a new one.

I do not demand that; but I politely ask.
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Ah, I'm sorry - I didn't notice that KK is actually discussing the rapture.

Just please keep it focused on the rapture, and do not dive into other topics, since you won't come to an agreement. Ever.
 
kurious_kathy said:
This is fine with me. I love talking about the rapture and things pertaining to the end of times. What I am most upset with these days is what Obama is doing. He wants me to be considered a terrorist for this belief? I am in no way harming people when I warn people of judgement day. Jesus is coming and the Lord asks people to receive him and repent to be saved. How the heck does this belief make me a terrorist?? Why doesn't Obama focus on protecting us from the real terrorists who send bombs???
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I do not understand what you are saying. How is talking about the Rapture related to Obama's definition of terrorism?
 
Cainkane1 said:
What I find disturbing about this is that the bible seems to imply that people in Heaven can actually communicate with people in Hell. You've been in Heaven one billion years and your family has been in hell for the same length of time what would you tell a loved one burning in said hell?
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"It's not the heat but it's the humidity"
 
Anyway, this was the person's from the OP reply to the rest :

To all of you, thank you, so very much. I greatly appreciate all of your words of cousel, and I'm thankful for your prayers. I will continue to pray to, and I will trust God. After all, this is in His hands, and His hands are ones of compassion, justice and mercy. He will know what to do, and I am glad for that.
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I am dissapointed in him.
 
hallon said:
Kurious_kathy, do you believe that it is an active decision to believe in your god? Or is it up to this god to "do something supernaturally" to make people open to receive him, as you put it? Those statements seem contradictory to me.

I'm an atheist, so I'm just trying to understand how you perceive this. :)
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Both. I had been taught the Bible a bit years ago but fell away from living a life of faith over 15 years and somehow after I came to the end of my self destruct mode Jesus intervened in my life in a very powerful "supernatural" way. It was at my lowest point in life Jesus came to turn my life back around to walk in the light of his truth. He saved me from more than I can even begin to tell you.

Sin is an ugly thing but when Jesus grants a person the gift of repentance it's a gift to be able to confess and ask his forgiveness. God is faithful to forgive our sins when we confess!
I am now one of his disciples but I am only saved by his grace.
 
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Nogbad said:
I am not sure why I am asking this but what the hell. Why would it be of concern? What difference does it make? Is one only saved if all the doctrines are right? Makes the Jesus thing totally pointless if that is the case.
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One does not have to be a scholar to be saved, I'll vouch for that. But one thing I know for a fact, we all must believe Jesus is who he says he is.

Jesus is the only Son of God, no other way to the Father except through Christ! All who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved!!
 
kurious_kathy said:
One does not have to be a scholar to be saved, I'll vouch for that. But one thing I know for a fact, we all must believe Jesus is who he says he is.

Jesus is the only Son of God, no other way to the Father except through Christ! All who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved!!
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So, since there is no Father, the way through Jesus is the way to nowhere.

If I wanted to go nowhere fast, perhaps I could pray quickly.
 
paximperium said:
Well according to KK the vast majority of Christians(ie. Catholics) are also wrong and doomed to hell.
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No I am concerned they are condemed for sharing a different Jesus than the risen Lord.

Scripture warnes us in 2 Corinthians11:3-5 But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. 5But I do not think I am in the least inferior to those "super-apostles."

The eucharist Christ is not Jesus. The teachings in the Catholic church are very wrong. We are never told to pray to anyone but God, NOT Mary. We are to confess to eachother yes and Jesus but to think the Pope is your holy father is wrong. Jesus said do not call anyone father but God. And there are many more wrong doctrines in the Catholic church. Try reading some of Dave Hunts books and Roger Oakland.

To be a bit more blunt, Catholicism is a manamde religion which is not of God. Catholics go through the motion but all their rituals are surely not going to save them. It is by grace alone that anyone is saved, NOT works!

But on a good note I pray for Catholics to be capable of having a true saving faith. Some even call themselves born again Catholics. But if you are filled with the Holy Spirit I do not see how you can stay in the Catholic church.
 
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kurious_kathy said:
No I am concerned they are condemed for sharing a different Jesus than the risen Lord.

Scripture warnes us in 2 Corinthians11:3-5 But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. 5But I do not think I am in the least inferior to those "super-apostles."

The eucharist Christ is not Jesus. The teachings in the Catholic church are very wrong. We are never told to pray to anyone but God, NOT Mary. We are to confess to eachother yes and Jesus but to think the Pope is your holy father is wrong. Jesus said do not call anyone father but God. And there are many more wrong doctrines in the Catholic church. Try reading some of Dave Hunts books and Roger Oakland.

To be a bit more blunt, Catholisiscm is a manamde religion which is not of God. Catholics go through the motion but all their rituals are surely not going to save them. It is by grace alone that anyone is saved, NOT works!
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You have no evidence your beliefs aren't man-made either. And you've yet to honestly and directly answer anyone's questions. You still haven't read the book Hokulele asked you about, even though you said you would. You lie constantly, which makes me wonder if anything you say has even a mote of truth.

More wasted bandwidth from Kurious Kathy, I'm afraid.
 
kurious_kathy said:
No I am concerned they are condemed for sharing a different Jesus than the risen Lord.

Scripture warnes us in 2 Corinthians11:3-5 But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. 5But I do not think I am in the least inferior to those "super-apostles."

The eucharist Christ is not Jesus. The teachings in the Catholic church are very wrong. We are never told to pray to anyone but God, NOT Mary. We are to confess to eachother yes and Jesus but to think the Pope is your holy father is wrong. Jesus said do not call anyone father but God. And there are many more wrong doctrines in the Catholic church. Try reading some of Dave Hunts books and Roger Oakland.

To be a bit more blunt, Catholicism is a manamde religion which is not of God. Catholics go through the motion but all their rituals are surely not going to save them. It is by grace alone that anyone is saved, NOT works!

But on a good note I pray for Catholics to be capable of having a true saving faith. Some even call themselves born again Catholics. But if you are filled with the Holy Spirit I do not see how you can stay in the Catholic church.
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In other words you don't feel the need to do anything at all, just sit around and talk to yourself and you judge us?

HA!

"Upon further review, Margaret decided to accept the money."
 
Roadtoad said:
You have no evidence your beliefs aren't man-made either. And you've yet to honestly and directly answer anyone's questions. You still haven't read the book Hokulele asked you about, even though you said you would. You lie constantly, which makes me wonder if anything you say has even a mote of truth.

More wasted bandwidth from Kurious Kathy, I'm afraid.
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Hi Rt. I know you choose to come against me no matter what I say. Yes I did read that book and believe it to be BAD! Not recommending it to anyone, ever!

But no matter what you say to me, God loves you and so do I!
 
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