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joobz said:
This is the same god who wiped everyone out in a flood.
Destroyed cities he felt were "evil".
Said it was good to kill children.
Killed all the first born of Egypt.
Condoned Slavery.

This is the god who loves us?
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...killed fig trees in a spat. That's totally not earth-friendly.
 
paximperium said:
So in a roundabout fashion, KK believes that Catholics(more than half of all Christians) are doomed to hell.
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A pretty common belief among the spirit-filled in these parts-- They make no bones about it: Catholics are not Christians and are doomed to the everlasting fires of Hell, where the worm dieth not, or some such...

It's also fairly common that they know little of the history of their own churches and have not read the bible, cover to cover, for themselves.

Funny folk, the spirit-filled...
 
Nogbad said:
Not exactly as clear as an answer as I hoped.

I take you are saying that whether one believes in the "rapture" (not a word that actually appears in the Bible) interpretation or not it is fairly irrelevant to the more central issues and isn't that much of a concern really.
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There are many different views on the return of Christ. I do not see it the way preterist do at all, I think they are missing something. The Word of God is discerned through the Holy Spirit so unless you have the gift of the Holy Spirit perhaps you cannot get this insight?

I see the Bible speaks clear on the rapture. In the twinkiling of an eye we will be changed when the trumpet sounds. I'm excited about it, I just hope I live long enough.
 
kurious_kathy said:
There are many different views on the return of Christ. I do not see it the way preterist do at all, I think they are missing something. The Word of God is discerned through the Holy Spirit so unless you have the gift of the Holy Spirit perhaps you cannot get this insight?

I see the Bible speaks clear on the rapture. In the twinkiling of an eye we will be changed when the trumpet sounds. I'm excited about it, I just hope I live long enough.
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Unfortunately for us, you probably will. :rolleyes:

Seriously, Kathy, you actually are enjoying the thought that people you don't know will suffer through seven years of literal Hell on Earth. That marks you as one sick puppy.

You, madam, are welcome to your Apocalypse. The rest of us will work to prevent it, thank you, even as you do whatever labor you can to bring it to us.
 
kurious_kathy said:
I see the Bible speaks clear on the rapture. In the twinkiling of an eye we will be changed when the trumpet sounds. I'm excited about it, I just hope I live long enough.
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Actually, the spirit told me that Satan has deluded all of the fundementalists into thinking they are doing god's work. The worship of the rapture (an event where people will be wisked away so that all others can be killed horribly) is perfect example of the self-serving nature of satan. It's interesting how fundementalists simply don't see this obvious taint of the dark one on them.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
Rapture Ready is a sick, sick site to delve into. Forumites longing for the End Times, posting about how their children cry and long for the end as they can't stand this world anymore... beyond disturbing.
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Whenever I hear the phrase "Rapture Ready", I can't help thinking of the line in the musical "Honk!" where all the barnyard birds are singing "till we're plucked and oven ready".
 
paximperium said:
Why?
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The Bible has never been disproved. It has accurately fullfilled prophecies, many archaeology finds to validate it, and more.

If you are truly open to find this question answered more in detail go to this website as Charlie Campbell is someone most of you can relate to. He's was just like many of you here on jref and has documented much of his journey from atheism to faith.
Here's a link the the 5 questions most skeptics ask...
http://www.alwaysbeready.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=51&Itemid=71
 
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Safe-Keeper is right. The site is a disgusting example of self-flagellating fundamentalists engaged in mental masturbation of the lowest sort, celebrating the miserable end of innocents, and the destruction of all that is worthwhile about our lives, particularly the relationships we've built over the course of our lives.

If the "saved" are so desperate for the end, there's nothing stopping them from leaving this life of their own accord.
 
kurious_kathy said:
The Bible has never been disproved. It has accurately fullfilled prophecies, many archeology finds to validate it, and more.
If you are truly open to find this question answered more in detail go to this website as Charlie Campbell is someone most of you can relate to. He's was just like many of you here on jref and has documented much of his journey from atheism to faith.
Here's a link the the 5 questions most skeptics ask...
http://www.alwaysbeready.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=51&Itemid=71
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Already familiar with them. No, the Bible hasn't been "disproved," but there's no evidence that it's true, either.

And your word's worthless, Kathy. You LIE.
 
joobz said:
This is the same god who wiped everyone out in a flood.
Destroyed cities he felt were "evil".
Said it was good to kill children.
Killed all the first born of Egypt.
Condoned Slavery.

This is the god who loves us?
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Nope...only some of us
John 3:16 says "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." That says God loves everyone, right? Wrong. <snip/>

... so-called Christians today are far too simple-minded and lazy to look into the matter. So we'll do it for you: the word translated "world" in John 3:16 is the Greek word "kosmos." The word never means "every individual of mankind who ever lived." <snip/>

You'll say "but doesn't 'whosoever believes' mean that everybody has the chance to believe?" Nope. <snip/>

...the only people who can believe are the ones whom God has ordained to eternal life. <snip/>

If you have not been ordained to eternal life, that means you are not one of His sheep, you NEVER will believe and are already condemned.

What I've told you here is the only interpretation that makes sense, because that is the only interpretation that is consistent with the rest of the Scripture. For example, God hated Esau! Romans 9:13. And He didn't just hate him - He hated him before he was even born and had done neither good nor evil! Romans 9:11. If He hates a person, He doesn't love everyone. For another example, there are billions of people in hell. If He loves those people, what a peculiar way of showing it!

Our message to this evil world is that God hates you, and you better prepare for the return of Christ in power and glory. <snip/>

Also see "God Loves Everyone" - The Greatest Lie Ever Told, which includes 701 passages from the Bible proving God's hatred and wrath for most of mankind.

Source: www.godhatestheworld.com
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YMMV :)
 
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gentlehorse said:
A pretty common belief among the spirit-filled in these parts-- They make no bones about it: Catholics are not Christians and are doomed to the everlasting fires of Hell, where the worm dieth not, or some such...

It's also fairly common that they know little of the history of their own churches and have not read the bible, cover to cover, for themselves.

Funny folk, the spirit-filled...
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So, these (literally) damned Catholics--would those be the same Catholics who more or less compiled the Bible that KK and other Catholic-haters like so much? Just curious.
 
Lucian said:
So, these (literally) damned Catholics--would those be the same Catholics who more or less compiled the Bible that KK and other Catholic-haters like so much? Just curious.
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Well, I wouldn't call KK a Catholic-hater. But the folks in this area who sound a lot like her exhibit little or no knowledge of Constantine, the Council of Nicea, Athanasius, the process of canonization, or, basically, any of the stuff that resulted in the compilation we affectionately call the Bible. So, yeah, those Catholics.
 
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