Ed Forum birdwatching 2008

... You may have infected another person with the birdwatcher disease. I am hoping to make a trip to the seashore very soon, with my camera, and there are actually two bird refuges within about 20 minutes' drive from here I must visit....

Welcome to the dark side... It's incredibly satisfying to nail a really tricky ID after going through all the features etc. It's like bathing your feet after a long hillwalk.

Kerkini is a brilliant place to bird, plenty of lesser grey shrikes, golden oriole and rose-coloured starlings as well as all the water birds. Where are the two refuges near you? I 've done a bit of birding in Northern Greece and might have some info.
 
Heh... I am actually no longer in Greece. :( I wish I had known to take more photos of birds; it would have been so easy to double (or more) my list.

I am in the Seacoast area of New Hampshire, East Coast U.S. There is a protected area on the southeast shore of Great Bay in Newington, where Bald Eagles are known to overwinter, and a smaller place in Newmarket, along the Lamprey River near its entrance to Great Bay. There are also beaches, salt marshes, tidal flats, evergreen forest, hardwood forest, and any number of different environments within half an hour's drive. Make it an hour and you can include mountains and a lot more seacoast, and tremendous lakes and rivers (lots of loons, for instance).

So, a nice place for birding, but it's not Greece.

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You could very well be right. The dark morph is so darn close. If it were a reddish egret it would be rare for this area.
The key is behavior. Little Blues stand still or walk slowly and spear their prey. Reddish Egrets chase madly down the bank, flapping their wings. They are hilarious to watch. That's especially important when you see the fairly common white morph of the Reddish Egret. They look a lot like a juvenile Little Blues or Snowy Egrets, but their hunting dance will always be obvious.

I only get to see RE's when I go to the coast. Even here, just 50 miles inland, you never see them.
 
Heh... I am actually no longer in Greece. :( I wish I had known to take more photos of birds; it would have been so easy to double (or more) my list.

I am in the Seacoast area of New Hampshire, East Coast U.S. There is a protected area on the southeast shore of Great Bay in Newington, where Bald Eagles are known to overwinter, and a smaller place in Newmarket, along the Lamprey River near its entrance to Great Bay. There are also beaches, salt marshes, tidal flats, evergreen forest, hardwood forest, and any number of different environments within half an hour's drive. Make it an hour and you can include mountains and a lot more seacoast, and tremendous lakes and rivers (lots of loons, for instance).

So, a nice place for birding, but it's not Greece.

:(


Have you taken a whale-watching trip at all? I took one from Gloucester and the humpbacks are awesome*. You can also get decent views of shearwaters and petrels which you'll never get from shore.



* awesome : that's (UK English) = generating a state of awe, not (US English) = quite nice, really.
 
Turns out my Great Spotted Woodpecker is a resident - seen him on our birdfeeder twice since last time :)

Plus a hell of a lot of tits, chaffinches, and a goldfinch.
 
Have you taken a whale-watching trip at all? I took one from Gloucester and the humpbacks are awesome*. You can also get decent views of shearwaters and petrels which you'll never get from shore.



* awesome : that's (UK English) = generating a state of awe, not (US English) = quite nice, really.
We went out from New Hampshire a few years ago, and saw more whales than we expected. Humpbacks, rights, and probably a couple of others that I've forgotten. Dolphins on the bow wave, too. Grand fun.
 
Have you taken a whale-watching trip at all? I took one from Gloucester and the humpbacks are awesome*. You can also get decent views of shearwaters and petrels which you'll never get from shore.



* awesome : that's (UK English) = generating a state of awe, not (US English) = quite nice, really.
A couple out of Portsmouth, years and years ago, and out of Provincetown MA even before that. I agree--the whales are just jaw-droppingly amazing. At the time, of course, I was not really looking for birds.
 
Any recommendations for field guides, etc.? I have been trying some of the online guides, and am rapidly becoming frustrated. Just trying to ID some birds that ought to be incredibly easy, but for the moment are "little birds". Hmph. I am certain they are already on the list, but I'm new. Two unknowns:

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But also some I know--a couple of favorites (yeah, already on the list):
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Top 3 yesterday, New Hampshire, Goldfinch July 27 Upstate New York
 
Any recommendations for field guides, etc.? I have been trying some of the online guides, and am rapidly becoming frustrated. Just trying to ID some birds that ought to be incredibly easy, but for the moment are "little birds". Hmph. I am certain they are already on the list, but I'm new. Two unknowns:

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But also some I know--a couple of favorites (yeah, already on the list):
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Top 3 yesterday, New Hampshire, Goldfinch July 27 Upstate New York

The top bird is a chipping sparrow I believe. I would take a stab and say the second is a cedar waxwing. That's if you get them as far north as NH.
 
The first one IS a Chipping Sparrow.
Some one shot one sitting on a window sill a few pages ago.
 
The top bird is a chipping sparrow I believe. I would take a stab and say the second is a cedar waxwing. That's if you get them as far north as NH.

Actually, the third is a cedar waxwing. The first two are two different birds. (I think it is the second that is the chipping sparrow; the beak on the first is too long and narrow.)

Thanks on the chipping sparrow ID. I had found what I thought was the exact match, only to find it lived only west of the Mississippi. Dang. Serious learning curve on this disease.
 
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The first is a wren of some sort; Carolina Wren? Cactus Wren? I don't know how to tell the American species apart.
 
The first is a wren of some sort; Carolina Wren? Cactus Wren? I don't know how to tell the American species apart.

The coloration, to my eye, fits a Bewick's Wren. Problem is, they are a western species.

Also (and I don't know how important this is), I hear that wrens characteristically hold their tails up; this guy did not, at least while I was watching.
 
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I have added observations by RedIbis, Mercutio, Tricky, Big Les, and an anonymous contributor who contacted me by PM (1). Again, I'd like to thank all contributors, especially those who have posted pictures. I have been very busy with couchsurfers for the last week (eight in as many days, most of which stayed for more than two nights!), and anyway it's been pouring down here. Tomorrow, I get a new tripod, and my teaching will really kick of, with field trips almost every day (including Saturdays), whcih ought to mean something new, at least...

Mottled Ducks?

As far as I can tell from the Sibley Field Guide to Birds of Eastern North America, these are Mallards Anas platyrhynchos. The bill-colour is the main characteristic on which I base this. It should be bright yellow (males) or "drab olive to orange" (females).

The coloration, to my eye, fits a Bewick's Wren. Problem is, they are a western species.

I have only Sibley's book to go on, but I'd say that it's a Carolina Wren. One line of evidence is that Carolina has a white eyebrow, whereas Bewick's has a pale yellow. The tail seems too short, and lacks Bewick's white spots on the outer feathers. Maybe another American can help us out?

It seems, in the pictures of that book, as though not all species necessarily raise their tail (though the Eurasian species certainly does), but I ahve no experience with American birds, so I may be wrong. Nevertheless, it is without mistake a wren; the extremely long and thin bill, the head almost as big as the body, and the discreet plumage gives it away. There may be similar groups in tropical areas, but there is nothing similar to that up North.

Thanks on the chipping sparrow ID. I had found what I thought was the exact match, only to find it lived only west of the Mississippi. Dang. Serious learning curve on this disease.

Just wait until you start with shore birds^^. There are so many intermediates between seasonal plumages that can confuse you, and I understand it is even harder among North American species.

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(1) In the light of the recent discussion on whether or not it should be allowed to reveal content of PMs, this is an example where I think it is okay, at least to the extent I have done above. I have asked the person in question if it is okay that I write his/her name in the excel sheet, and have been given permission to do so.
 
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It pretty much has to be a Carolina Wren, given location (as well as the other things you mentioned). I wish I had paid more attention to his song--he was quite loud and distinctive.

Part of my problem currently is that all I have to go on are internet pics and guides, and not many of them are terribly specific as to what features are key to identifying.
 
It pretty much has to be a Carolina Wren, given location (as well as the other things you mentioned). I wish I had paid more attention to his song--he was quite loud and distinctive.

Part of my problem currently is that all I have to go on are internet pics and guides, and not many of them are terribly specific as to what features are key to identifying.

Well, I have access only to one book: the Sibley Field Guide to Birds of Eastern North America (Knopf Inc., 2003), which, by current European standards, is a crap book, with virtually no text, naïve pictures, and, of course, a severe limitation in that it excludes many Western birds. For Europe, I always recommend Mullarney/Zetterström/Larsson, which is probably the best bird book ever. However, I guess Sibley's can be used as a good start. The one I have (which actually belongs to a colleague) apparently costed 19.95 US dollars when new, which is sort of reasonable, I guess. I can recommend it only because I have no experience of the competition.
 
I looked on amazon for birding guides--I think I will have to wait until I get to a bookstore to be able to compare some.

In other news, an online guide says that the carolina wren's range extends north as far as Massachussets... which is not quite far enough. Either this guy really likes to fly north, or I am back to the drawing board.
 

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