Dr. MAS - Please use this thread to explain homeopathy to us

[Mojo]

One of the skeptic admitted that

Which "skeptic" admitted this, and where? I've just searched this forum for the words nutshell, homeopaths and prodigiously, all of which appear in your quote, but the only post showing up is the one you've just made. This suggests that your quotation either came from somewhere other than this forum or is a figment of your imagination.

 

[Ashles]

Which "skeptic" admitted this, and where? I've just searched this forum for the words nutshell, homeopaths and prodigiously, all of which appear in your quote, but the only post showing up is the one you've just made. This suggests that your quotation either came from somewhere other than this forum or is a figment of your imagination.

I think he may be refering to Anor277 on this thread where he says:

A 6x potency corresponds to a reasonably concentrated solution (i.e. it is the same as "one part per million", or a milligram of solute to 1 kg solvent-or a litre of water). I do not pretend to have any knowledge of pharmacology beyond the popular, but I believe that many drugs are administered as "ppm" solutions. 12x and 18x potencies are correspondingly less concentrated by 6 and 12 orders of magnitudes. However, even an 18x potency would have some 1,000,000 particles remaining to effect some biochemical change. At a 30x potency, there should be no particles/molecules of the original solute (it should have diminished to 1-2 particles at 24x). At 30x potency, the solution should be chemically indistinguishable from the solvent used to make the preparations.

It seems that Dr. MAS might be heading towards saying that homeopathy works by usual mundane pharmacological methods where enough original active ingredient exists to cause a normal mundane pharmacological reaction.

It seems that he might be implying that homeopathy doesn't even exist.
Which, I have to say, is a novel approach from a homeopath.

 

[Ashles]

But this seems to be turning into us answering your questions, which wasn't really the purpose of this thread.

The idea is that you explain homeopathy to us.

Please start with whatever dilution and at whatever point you like (although explaining how you would cure AIDS using homeopathy would be of most interest).

 

[Mojo]

I think he may be refering to Anor277 on this thread where he says:

It seems that Dr. MAS might be heading towards saying that homeopathy works by usual mundane pharmacological methods where enough original active ingredient exists to cause a normal mundane pharmacological reaction.

It seems that he might be implying that homeopathy doesn't even exist.
Which, I have to say, is a novel approach from a homeopath.

So he's introducing questions from elsewhere in an attempt to avoid giving his explanation? What a surprise.

I think it would be best if Dr. MAS tried to explain how 30X remedies work. Once he's got people to swallow that camel they might not need to strain at gnats.

 

[MRC_Hans]

Ashles

One of the skeptic admitted that



I was thinking to send reply on "working of homeopathic medicine" but before I started you and other already admitted "YES", the below 18x potency has pharmaceutical effect and it can bring chemical change in our body.

Please clarify, are you still interested in working of homeopathic dilutions? If yes, then which dilution 18x or above 18x?

Dr. MAS, please quit stalling. You claimed that you could explain homeopathy scientifically. Will you do it or not? If not, then don't expect us to put any faith in anything you say, if yes, then please start doing it. Don't worry about what we assume or understand, if there are things we don't understand, we will ask.

Hans

 

[Dr. MAS]

Which "skeptic" admitted this, and where? I've just searched this forum for the words nutshell, homeopaths and prodigiously, all of which appear in your quote, but the only post showing up is the one you've just made. This suggests that your quotation either came from somewhere other than this forum or is a figment of your imagination.

You were sleeping when this was happend.

Visit your moderator's forum "Homeopathic Skeptic Room". He has also admitted the same.

 

[Dr. MAS]

Dr. MAS, please quit stalling. You claimed that you could explain homeopathy scientifically. Will you do it or not? If not, then don't expect us to put any faith in anything you say, if yes, then please start doing it. Don't worry about what we assume or understand, if there are things we don't understand, we will ask.

Hans

To whom, I could explain?

To those who are uneducated and have no background of chemistry. Those who explained wrong avogadro's number equation?

 

[El Greco]

To whom, I could explain?

To those who are uneducated and have no background of chemistry. Those who explained wrong avogadro's number equation?

No, explain just to the educated ones. Or do you want photocopies of our degrees before you start ? Or maybe you are the only one in position to decide who is educated and who isn't ?

Assume we are as educated as you are. There are certainly many of us here who fulfill this prerequisite.

Or maybe your excuses are as pathetic as homeopathy ?

 

[Ashles]

To whom, I could explain?

To those who are uneducated and have no background of chemistry. Those who explained wrong avogadro's number equation?

It was made extremely clear to you that you could start explaining at whatever point, and to whatever level of expertise you wished.

It appears that you are going to renege on that offer.

It is entirely your choice if you wish to refuse to follow up on the offer you yourself made but please do not try to imply it was because of a lack of understanding of chemistry by anyone here.

That is just blatantly untrue and does, as a claim, reflect very badly on you and your honesty Dr. MAS.

 

[MRC_Hans]

To whom, I could explain?

To those who are uneducated and have no background of chemistry. Those who explained wrong avogadro's number equation?

Sir, it does not matter, because it has become very evident that you are not able to explain it at all. You are just stalling.

Hans

 

[Darat]

Any one else experiencing déja vu?

(Edited for accents.)

 

[Donks]

Any one else experiencing déja vu?

(Edited for accents.)

You're one accent short of a full déjà.



Explanation for the "Edited by Darat": Apology, I was looking to see how Donks had got the right accent and clicked "Edit" instead of "Quote". Sorry!

 

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

To whom, I could explain?

To those who are uneducated and have no background of chemistry. Those who explained wrong avogadro's number equation?

No. The arithmetic was correct. Please show us your explanation why it is not.

I've never met anyone quite as desperate to stall and avoid the central issue as you.

I will repeat what Ashles last asked;

"Please start with whatever dilution and at whatever point you like"

 

[Darat]

You're one accent short of a full déjà.

Damn! I had it right in word but it screwed up when I pasted it in my reply: i.e. "Any one else experiencing déjÃ_ vu?" even though it looks fine in the "Post Reply" box - strange.

 

[Ashles]

Quite a large number of recent posts by Dr. MAS - 16 today alone.

Number of posts offering even the start of an explanation of homeopathy - 0

It's hard to know how much more fair we could be in our request for an explanation - start anywhere, at any level of detail or expertise you like.

I can't see how Dr. MAS students could be particularly impressed by his evasion.

 

[Jocce]

To whom, I could explain?

To those who are uneducated and have no background of chemistry. Those who explained wrong avogadro's number equation?

Maybe to me? I did give the correct answer anyway...

MAS...you are certainly a disgrace to teachers all over the world. If this "teaching" is the best homeopaths can come up with, no wonder you're not getting anywhere in the real world.

Have a fluffy, buffy time in woo woo land...

 

[Mojo]

Quite a large number of recent posts by Dr. MAS - 16 today alone.

Number of posts offering even the start of an explanation of homeopathy - 0

That's because, as Dr. MAS has explained, he is a Very Busy Homeopath and can't type very fast, therefore hasn't the time to post explanations in this forum, only evasions and irrelevances.

 

[Jeff Corey]

MAS...you are certainly a disgrace to teachers all over the world...

But you are assuming that he is a teacher, which I don't believe. After all, he has not shown us his qualifications, professional degrees, or National Identity Card.
He probably is employed as a human waste processor in a small village in Pakistan.
Not that I have anything against human waste processors, it's just that I can't stand it when they pose as teachers with multiple Ph. D.s.

 

[CFLarsen]

To whom, I could explain?

To those who are uneducated and have no background of chemistry. Those who explained wrong avogadro's number equation?

Cut the crap. OK? You are not fooling anyone here with your evasive answers.

Just explain it. You can use all the science you like.

But explain it.

You can explain it, can't you?

 

[Donks]

Quite a large number of recent posts by Dr. MAS - 16 today alone.

Number of posts offering even the start of an explanation of homeopathy - 0

It's hard to know how much more fair we could be in our request for an explanation - start anywhere, at any level of detail or expertise you like.

I can't see how Dr. MAS students could be particularly impressed by his evasion.

Looking over today's flurry of posts you know what I'm reminded of? An ant hill. Dr. MAS came around, proded the ant hill with a stick, we came out wildly trying to bite whatever we encountered, and he went away again.