Dr. MAS - Please use this thread to explain homeopathy to us
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Seeing as how I've only been given one day's notice to fly halfway around the world I'm gonna have to pass. I don't understand why I have to go all the way to Pakistan to have Mr. MAS (I refuse to call him Dr. anymore) explain his theory, when he has many threads available for him here.
Do me a favor though, if he brings the bottle with the picture and the sparkly Christmas lights in it, could you please take a picture and post it, because I just can't get enough of that crazy stuff.
Do me a favor though, if he brings the bottle with the picture and the sparkly Christmas lights in it, could you please take a picture and post it, because I just can't get enough of that crazy stuff.
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if homoeopathy works, which has yet to be proved, then water displays some fairly incredible properties.
Let's go back in time to the creation of our solar system (and I'm talking about the accretion theory here, not ID or genesis).
A large cloud of gas, dust and water (yup, water) coalesced and started to collapse under it's own gravitational pull. When sufficient mass at the centre was reached, enough heat was generated to initiate a nuclear reaction that formed our sun. The lighter material in the cloud was blown outwards to form the gas giants (Saturn, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune) and the denser, rocky material formed the inner planets (Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars).
Since this cloud of dust and gas was floating around the universe for a while before this happened, it has time to absorb all sorts of radiation, pollutants, etc. I would guess that at the moment the sun formed and ignited, there would have been several quite impressive shockwaves running through the remained or the cloud, which would succuss the water present into remembering whatever was dissolved into it for evermore.
Fast forward to today. Our lovely watery planet. We take a tiny amount of something, dissolve or just mix it into water and then repeatedly dilute it until not even 1 molecule of the original ingredient can possibly be present.
This is then supposed to "cure".
The problem I have with this is, if water has this "memory", then the drinker should probably also receive a fairly lethal dose of solar radiation as well.
Or am I just being naive?
Let's go back in time to the creation of our solar system (and I'm talking about the accretion theory here, not ID or genesis).
A large cloud of gas, dust and water (yup, water) coalesced and started to collapse under it's own gravitational pull. When sufficient mass at the centre was reached, enough heat was generated to initiate a nuclear reaction that formed our sun. The lighter material in the cloud was blown outwards to form the gas giants (Saturn, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune) and the denser, rocky material formed the inner planets (Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars).
Since this cloud of dust and gas was floating around the universe for a while before this happened, it has time to absorb all sorts of radiation, pollutants, etc. I would guess that at the moment the sun formed and ignited, there would have been several quite impressive shockwaves running through the remained or the cloud, which would succuss the water present into remembering whatever was dissolved into it for evermore.
Fast forward to today. Our lovely watery planet. We take a tiny amount of something, dissolve or just mix it into water and then repeatedly dilute it until not even 1 molecule of the original ingredient can possibly be present.
This is then supposed to "cure".
The problem I have with this is, if water has this "memory", then the drinker should probably also receive a fairly lethal dose of solar radiation as well.
Or am I just being naive?
Dear Administrator
After reading this post, I must say, it is mere try to degrade me in public forum where a question was floated for me and due to my non-availability at this forum, an impression was created that I am intentionally do not wish to send reply or I have no reply. This is not fair.
Before I would like to request you, I would like to introduce myself, I am a busy homeopath. I arrange homeopathic seminars, medical camps, workshops and symposiums free. I also teach students in homeopathic colleges, for this purpose I do not take salary. I have been practicing homeopathy for above 20 years now. I am also providing free medicines without charging consultation. I am running many organizations, but I am not the executive member of any of them due my official commitments.
Sir, this is not possible for me to visit this forum on daily basis. This is a very good informative forum where we are discussing on serious issues for which I need daily update. As I have to move to different colleges for lecture programs where I don’t have access to Internet, to keep track of my interested topic, I need help from my two assistants and sometime from my homeopathic colleagues, which keep track of my threads.
Sir, I request your honour to please help me in finding the solution of this problem. I propose the following suggestions.
1. As we are aware of this fact that duplicate aliases are not allowed at randi forum, so allow my one assistant to get registration at this forum who will post at this forum in my absence just to keep track of discussion. I assure you he will not send posts without my permission because I do not want to create confusion neither I do not want to deceive anyone. I, only write with one alias but at other forums, there is no such rule where my account was not allowed to use by anyone else, neither no body can recognize if my assistant send posts under my name. My assistant will keep in touch with me through my mobile and will send posts under my guidance.
2. If the above proposal is not permitted or not feasible then allow my assistant to use my account to send posts in my absence. When he will send posts by using my log in identity then he will write his full name, in this way confusion will not create.
Sir, I do not speak lie. I hope you will take decision on sympathetic ground and will approve one of the above proposal. Before taking decision, please keep in mind that for my assistant it is very easy to use my log in identity to send posts at JREF forum under my real name “Dr. MAS†and for you to recognize my dummy posts is very difficult if he does not write his real name but if this happens then this would be a great fraud and my inner conscious does not permit me to adopt this technique where my assistant is sending posts under my name and people are not aware of this fact that they are discussing not with me but with my camouflage assistant in the form of disguise Dr. MAS.
I hope you will not force me to speak lie at forum. I think, second proposal is the most suitable one because I do not want to create duplicate alias. For me it is most suitable for my assistant to send posts in my absence under his own real name. Please keep in mind; both are already using my real email addresses for replying posts to patients and homeopathic friends. My colleagues already know that.
The second proposal is not new one; many official personalities are already practicing this method. Don’t you think, an executive of an association will reply all his mails himself? Our President is receiving one thousand mails per month, do you think, if people are receiving replies than all replies were written by the president himself. No his assistants are replying under the name of president by using his ID. There is no paranormal involve in this method
I assure you, I will not allow my assistants to use my JREF account unless you take decision and permit me to do so.
Looking forward for your cooperation.
Dr. MAS
www.drmas.tk
After reading this post, I must say, it is mere try to degrade me in public forum where a question was floated for me and due to my non-availability at this forum, an impression was created that I am intentionally do not wish to send reply or I have no reply. This is not fair.
Before I would like to request you, I would like to introduce myself, I am a busy homeopath. I arrange homeopathic seminars, medical camps, workshops and symposiums free. I also teach students in homeopathic colleges, for this purpose I do not take salary. I have been practicing homeopathy for above 20 years now. I am also providing free medicines without charging consultation. I am running many organizations, but I am not the executive member of any of them due my official commitments.
Sir, this is not possible for me to visit this forum on daily basis. This is a very good informative forum where we are discussing on serious issues for which I need daily update. As I have to move to different colleges for lecture programs where I don’t have access to Internet, to keep track of my interested topic, I need help from my two assistants and sometime from my homeopathic colleagues, which keep track of my threads.
Sir, I request your honour to please help me in finding the solution of this problem. I propose the following suggestions.
1. As we are aware of this fact that duplicate aliases are not allowed at randi forum, so allow my one assistant to get registration at this forum who will post at this forum in my absence just to keep track of discussion. I assure you he will not send posts without my permission because I do not want to create confusion neither I do not want to deceive anyone. I, only write with one alias but at other forums, there is no such rule where my account was not allowed to use by anyone else, neither no body can recognize if my assistant send posts under my name. My assistant will keep in touch with me through my mobile and will send posts under my guidance.
2. If the above proposal is not permitted or not feasible then allow my assistant to use my account to send posts in my absence. When he will send posts by using my log in identity then he will write his full name, in this way confusion will not create.
Sir, I do not speak lie. I hope you will take decision on sympathetic ground and will approve one of the above proposal. Before taking decision, please keep in mind that for my assistant it is very easy to use my log in identity to send posts at JREF forum under my real name “Dr. MAS†and for you to recognize my dummy posts is very difficult if he does not write his real name but if this happens then this would be a great fraud and my inner conscious does not permit me to adopt this technique where my assistant is sending posts under my name and people are not aware of this fact that they are discussing not with me but with my camouflage assistant in the form of disguise Dr. MAS.
I hope you will not force me to speak lie at forum. I think, second proposal is the most suitable one because I do not want to create duplicate alias. For me it is most suitable for my assistant to send posts in my absence under his own real name. Please keep in mind; both are already using my real email addresses for replying posts to patients and homeopathic friends. My colleagues already know that.
The second proposal is not new one; many official personalities are already practicing this method. Don’t you think, an executive of an association will reply all his mails himself? Our President is receiving one thousand mails per month, do you think, if people are receiving replies than all replies were written by the president himself. No his assistants are replying under the name of president by using his ID. There is no paranormal involve in this method
I assure you, I will not allow my assistants to use my JREF account unless you take decision and permit me to do so.
Looking forward for your cooperation.
Dr. MAS
www.drmas.tk
Rolfe
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Mas, I really don't think you should assume that moderators will read every post in every thread. If you have a question to ask, you need to PM a moderator, or preferably Darat.
Registration on this forum is open to all, on a one-account-one-person basis. There is absolutely nothing at all to stop your assistant from registering as himself, and posting as often as he pleases about whatever he pleases. What is your problem with this?
If you are both working from the same computer this is still easy to organise - you merely need to log out the "DR. MAS" identitiy and your assistant logs in with his own identity and password. And he doesn't need any permission from you or anyone to say whatever he likes as often as he wants to say it.
If you allow your assistant to post with your log-in, I think you might find yourself banned, which would be a pity.
Rolfe.
Registration on this forum is open to all, on a one-account-one-person basis. There is absolutely nothing at all to stop your assistant from registering as himself, and posting as often as he pleases about whatever he pleases. What is your problem with this?
If you are both working from the same computer this is still easy to organise - you merely need to log out the "DR. MAS" identitiy and your assistant logs in with his own identity and password. And he doesn't need any permission from you or anyone to say whatever he likes as often as he wants to say it.
If you allow your assistant to post with your log-in, I think you might find yourself banned, which would be a pity.
Rolfe.
Mojo
Mostly harmless
Dr. MAS, you were suspended on 23rd April, after one of your students announced that he was posting on your behalf:Dr. MAS said:
You certainly still seemed to be posting in the "What is paranormal in Homeopathy" thread on 21st April.
Ashles started this thread on 15th April, and that day announced that he had done so in the "What is paranormal in Homeopathy" thread, a thread that had been started by you and in which you continued to post on 16th April, 18th April, 20th April ("I am real Dr. MAS ... It is further clarified that this account is not in use by other members unless I will permit."), and 21st April. Your suspension ended on 30th April (a week after your student announced that you were going to be unavailable for a week). It has taken you a further week to bother to post anything in this thread.
It therefore seems somewhat disingenuous to imply that this thread was started at a time when you were unable to reply to it or that you have until now been unable to reply.
How can this thread have possibly been an attempt to exploit your alleged non-availability, when it was started over a week before you were suspended, and at a time when you were making large numbers of posts on the forum (and, indeed, in the thread where this thread was announced) almost every day?
Edited for spelling
Thank you Mojo, I was just about to point that out.Mojo said:
And Dr MAS the offer STILL stands - you can STILL use this thread to explain homeopathy scientifically.
It seems strange you should post at length about the nature of this thread and other posters, and how you couldn't post here, yet still not actually address the initial request to explain homeopathy.
Sometimes it seems as though an explanation of homeopathy as actually the very last thing you wish to discuss.
I don't really understand this post. You have had no problems typing anywhere else on the forums, or indeed in the 732 word post that immediately preceded the above post.Dr. MAS said:
Anyway can I again request that nobody asks any further questions of Dr. MAS in this thread - it is intended for him to explain homeopathy to us.
Although the excuses of his banning and not being able to type don't really seem to hold a lot of water I think we should try to move ahead.
So, Dr. MAS, you are now here, and you can cleary type, so....
Please go ahead and explain homeopathy to us scientifically. The floor is yours.
Kumar said:
Yes, if you want to make it totally clear to everybody that it is a kinase we’re talking about. Usually the K is dropped because everyone assumes that it is a kinase we are talking about.
So, is any of the Ras/Raf/MAPK pathways affected by homeopathic remedies?
Sorry Anders, I am interested in the answer to you question, but I was hoping to keep the thread as clear as possible so that Dr. MAS can explain homeopathy in his own way, in his own time, starting from where he likes.Anders said:
Could I request that you ask the question in another thread?
Maybe not, I'm just trying to remove any excuses he might have for not answering.Anders said:
He's no longer suspended, he's had plenty of time to think about an explanation, he can clearly type, he has offered to give us a scientific explanation for homeopathy, and this thread has been set up to be solely dedicated to his explanation.
So once again Dr MAS...
Please feel free to explain homeopathy to us. Starting where you like, at whatever level of explanation you like.
If we don't understand anything we'll let you know.
I'm hoping that the next poster will be Dr. MAS.
Dr. MAS said:
See my reply in the Forum Management thread: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56630
Ashles
One of the skeptic admitted that
I was thinking to send reply on "working of homeopathic medicine" but before I started you and other already admitted "YES", the below 18x potency has pharmaceutical effect and it can bring chemical change in our body.
Please clarify, are you still interested in working of homeopathic dilutions? If yes, then which dilution 18x or above 18x?
One of the skeptic admitted that
I was thinking to send reply on "working of homeopathic medicine" but before I started you and other already admitted "YES", the below 18x potency has pharmaceutical effect and it can bring chemical change in our body.
Please clarify, are you still interested in working of homeopathic dilutions? If yes, then which dilution 18x or above 18x?
I'm still not quite sure why your explanations involve asking us questions.Dr. MAS said:
I'm curious as to why I should have to define homeopathy to a homeopath.
At what dilutions do you consider the effects or remedy to be purely pharmacological, and what homeopathic?
And maybe as a starting point for your explanation you could use the example of the cure for AIDS that you have mentioned.
How would that work and what dilutions of what remedy would you use?