CSV FDR File was altered to make aircraft appear on southern approach
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John Farmer still maintains that the csv file was altered to show a south approach as he mentioned in a thread here a few days ago. His analysis was not triggered by or due to the "manipulation" of PFT or CIT. He came up with it all on his own and contacted/alerted Rob regarding same. Didnt you read the email?
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Reading comprehension isn't your thing, is it?
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Or, you could simply ask him directly what he thinks about all of this.
I'd like to see if John Farmer agrees that he was "manipulated" by PFT and CIT to come up with his analysis regarding the csv file being altered. According to his replies on the LCF thread linked and quoted by apathoid, it appears Farmer was pretty confident of his calculations.
So does Farmer now think his calculations regarding the csv file were "pseudoscience" as claimed by Anti-Sohist? Does Farmer think he was an "idjit" and "idiot" as claimed by Apathoid?
Seems a trend is developing here regarding Farmer.
ETA: Why did Farmer refuse to debate P4T? Yet he is using their decode? Does Farmer realize the software used for the decode was not meant for Accident Investigation? Its funny to see Farmer claiming the "FDR Expert" he spoke with doesnt know what he was talking about. Considering Farmer has zero FDR expertise.
So does Farmer now think his calculations regarding the csv file were "pseudoscience" as claimed by Anti-Sohist? Does Farmer think he was an "idjit" and "idiot" as claimed by Apathoid?
Seems a trend is developing here regarding Farmer.
ETA: Why did Farmer refuse to debate P4T? Yet he is using their decode? Does Farmer realize the software used for the decode was not meant for Accident Investigation? Its funny to see Farmer claiming the "FDR Expert" he spoke with doesnt know what he was talking about. Considering Farmer has zero FDR expertise.
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You seem to have quite the obsession with Farmer, almost as if you have a history with him.
Why else you would bump a thread over a year and a half old to obsess about Farmer?
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Not at all. People change their minds.
How's that math coming along? Have any of the pretend FDR experts at the PfffT figured it out yet?
So you think Farmer will admit his work on the csv file was "pseudoscience"? Think he will admit it was due to the fact he doesnt have a science education past the 9th grade as claimed by a JREFer on the first page?
Math? Why do you keep wanting to derail the topic?
Math? Why do you keep wanting to derail the topic?
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Don't really care.
Then feel free to comment here: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130689
Farmer, this guy thinks you dont have an education past 9th grade science based on your csv file analysis. Do you agree?
... just as long as his "pseudoscience" supports the govt story from this day forward, Right?
(insert laughing dog here)
crock.
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TAM, why did you call Farmers conclusions regarding his csv file analysis a crock? You do know Farmer still maintains the csv file was altered to show a southern approach, right? Unless of course he changed his mind in the past few days.
Wildcat, please stop trying to derail the thread with your obsessive behavior of P4T and their math. It appears they are working on it. But unlike you, they have a life around the holidays.
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130890
JRyan, you might want to take a look at Farmer's work in this thread, where he states that PfT's own decode of the CSV file is consistent with the official AA77 flightpath.
Farmer appears to be capable of learning from his mistakes. PfT, on the other hand, does not.
JRyan, you might want to take a look at Farmer's work in this thread, where he states that PfT's own decode of the CSV file is consistent with the official AA77 flightpath.
Farmer appears to be capable of learning from his mistakes. PfT, on the other hand, does not.
1.You may want to ask Farmer what "RO2" means and why he didnt use "CSV" file in the topic title. (hint: it wasnt a decode of the "csv" file")
2. Farmer still maintains the csv file was tampered with.
3. If you still dont understand, the csv file and "RO2" are two different files.
4. RO2 was decoded with software not meant for Accident Investigaton.
5. Please stop trying to derail this thread.
ETA: RO2 does not verify "the flight path" as it was 3000 feet south of runway 30 at IAD during departure. Farmer still does not understand why, and this is why he refuses to debate P4T (as does Beachnut et al).
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Isnt the "statistics" and "mathematician" referred to as the "idjit" by apathoid and "the latest idiot" by Beachnut and what Anti-Sophist claims...
"What's worse is this abject gibberish is dressed up in mildly sophisticated language. It's pseudoscience to the max, meant to mislead the stupid. It's worked. "
... arent they referring to the same John Farmer who is now "911Files" on the JREF who still maintains the csv file was altered to show a southern approach?
Yep, looks like the same guy. I wonder why no one really questions his "pseudo-science" anymore, consdering Farmer does maintain the csv file is altered.
Have a nice day...
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Are you able to handle change, or are you a Balsamo special person who believes things don't change?
Farmer sounded like the standard opinion pusher, but I discovered no matter how far out his first statement was on a 9/11 issue, he was actually learning how to understand things unknown to him so he could be skeptical about his own first impressions on things presented by 9/11 truth, or the terrorist loyalist Balsamo as a fact.
Seems like you are upset 911files is able to be a critical thinker despite his initial idea on a topic. 911files does this by learning things that 9/11 truth does not understand and solving the things he is skeptical about.
Wow, someone who may state some things I don't agree with, but he produces research that destroys the fantasy and false ideas of others.
I have to apologize to 911files for calling his ideas stupid, I thought he stated his ideas and did not know he was actually going to prove or disprove each of his ideas with real comprehensive, tenacious research considering, we all have other duties and interest to occupy our time.
It takes months to do some of the things he has presented; his work can be checked. Looks bad for p4t when one who was fooled by them is not producing the things they said they were doing but they lied.
I don't care if 911files thinks the FDR is tampered with, as he learns more he will understand it is not tampered with, or changed except for errors, or mistakes in offset in the NTSB algorithm for decoding.
He will resolve the issues he has in time with real work, real research, stuff p4t say they are doing but they lied; but that is par for the terrorist apologist Balsamo and his failed ideas.
Did you see his latest work! His work now supports the southern route, the one that knocked down lamppost and impacted the Pentagon making p4t and CIT the ones with nut case ideas.
The dolts at p4t are the only ones who fail to understand 9/11.
Farmer says things that sound like a truther but he does the research, presents it, and refutes the idiot of ideas of p4t terrorist loyalist Balsamo. Ironic…
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