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Buzz lightyear and the JREF Challenge

GzuzKryzt said:
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Well Gzuz, it is so refreshing to view this thread without first having to face a barrarge of garbage from that nosepick simpleton, The Athiest, that I can't even get annoyed at your epilogue counter.

Who knows? With him out of the way, if a little guy like you got himself a haircut and a proper job, he might amount to something, someday.
 
buzz lightyear said:
Well Gzuz, it is so refreshing to view this thread without first having to face a barrarge of garbage from that nosepick simpleton, The Athiest, that I can't even get annoyed at your epilogue counter.

Who knows? With him out of the way, if a little guy like you got himself a haircut and a proper job, he might amount to something, someday.
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Belz... said:
And pray tell, how could you tell the difference with a hallucination ?

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When you do the same experiment 100 or so times over a 15 year period you get a good understanding for what to expect, Belz.

Although every time is different, the experiences generally fall into two catorigies, the known and the previously unknown.

The known are usually reflections of my own thought patterns, things from my day to day existance.

The unknown are things like the Egyptian entitiy. They are unexpected and oftern open new possibilities for acoustic direction.

All of my experiments are carried out under the same conditions with my eyes shut the entire time, so the source of these "visions" can only be from the sound or from within. Having no Egyptian background myself, means that these type of images possibly have an externial origin.

Alternately they are a DNA memory, which is also quite possible.
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buzz lightyear said:
Belz... said:
And pray tell, how could you tell the difference with a hallucination ?



When you do the same experiment 100 or so times over a 15 year period you get a good understanding for what to expect, Belz.

Although every time is different, the experiences generally fall into two catorigies, the known and the previously unknown.

The known are usually reflections of my own thought patterns, things from my day to day existance.

The unknown are things like the Egyptian entitiy. They are unexpected and oftern open new possibilities for acoustic direction.

All of my experiments are carried out under the same conditions with my eyes shut the entire time, so the source of these "visions" can only be from the sound or from within. Having no Egyptian background myself, means that these type of images possibly have an externial origin.

Alternately they are a DNA memory, which is also quite possible.
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I have heard the very same arguments from "hippies", "shamans", "cyberpunks", "psychonauts" and from just-for-the-heck-of-it druggies.

If you'd be interested in the origin of your experiences, you'd consult a doctor and a psychologist. I'm not even talking therapy right away, although it would possibly move in that direction.

However, you'd have to give up your illusions and face some very mundane reality. And you would have to learn to answer simple questions with simple straight answers. It's up to you.
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buzz lightyear said:
And pray tell, how could you tell the difference with a hallucination ?



When you do the same experiment 100 or so times over a 15 year period you get a good understanding for what to expect, Belz.

Although every time is different, the experiences generally fall into two catorigies, the known and the previously unknown.

The known are usually reflections of my own thought patterns, things from my day to day existance.

The unknown are things like the Egyptian entitiy. They are unexpected and oftern open new possibilities for acoustic direction.

All of my experiments are carried out under the same conditions with my eyes shut the entire time, so the source of these "visions" can only be from the sound or from within. Having no Egyptian background myself, means that these type of images possibly have an externial origin.

Alternately they are a DNA memory, which is also quite possible.
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I have heard the very same arguments from "hippies", "shamans", "cyberpunks", "psychonauts" and from just-for-the-heck-of-it druggies.

If you'd be interested in the origin of your experiences, you'd consult a doctor and a psychologist. I'm not even talking therapy right away, although it would possibly move in that direction.

However, you'd have to give up your illusions and face some very mundane reality. And you would have to learn to answer simple questions with simple straight answers. It's up to you.
 
Whoa, Gzuz dude, I can like totally see two of you, it's like, man, the universe is trying to tell me something. Yeah, I can see it, it's beautiful man, there's like all these Egyptian dudes, and dragons, and magic rocks, this is like totally important....


...Oh, wait, you double posted, never mind.

:bananapowerslide:
 
Like amazing, Paul this little guy is the best thing that you have ever
done.So cool.

And Gzuz, since you are now the expert on ethnogens and the psychedelic experience, how about you vomit your knowldege onto your next post.
And one post would be sufficient.
 
Aw Gzuz ! is that it,.......... phewy.
No Wikipedia wisdom, no quotes from Metzler or Leary?

Come on son , lift your game.
 
buzz lightyear said:
Belz... said:
And pray tell, how could you tell the difference with a hallucination ?
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When you do the same experiment 100 or so times over a 15 year period you get a good understanding for what to expect, Belz.
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You're trying to make the thing sound scientific. Unfortunately, since you're the only one verifying your undoubtedly anticipated results, you're lacking one of the fundamental aspects of a scientific study: peer review.

Although every time is different, the experiences generally fall into two catorigies, the known and the previously unknown.
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Every known is previously unknown.

The unknown are things like the Egyptian entitiy. They are unexpected and oftern open new possibilities for acoustic direction.
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Again, how can you tell them from hallucinations ? I have dreams all the time, and while I'm having them I usually can't tell that I'm dreaming.

All of my experiments are carried out under the same conditions with my eyes shut the entire time, so the source of these "visions" can only be from the sound or from within.
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Hallucinations are from within, too.

Having no Egyptian background myself, means that these type of images possibly have an externial origin.
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Possibly. But Occam's Razor doesn't help you, in this case.

Alternately they are a DNA memory, which is also quite possible.
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No, however. DNA "memory" doesn't exist as you mean it. Compared to the human brain, DNA stores a ridiculously low amount of data.
 
Dave?

Dave's not here, man, and Imanhotep has left the building too, man.
 
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Belz... said:
Indeed. What's the point. You're likely to run back to 0 at one point, seeing how endless this is turning out to be.
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I retired the counter because it has served its purpose.

Plus, it seems to me that buzz lightyear repeatedly is showing severe signs of serious delusions. I did engage in countering drmabus who fell in the same category. It left a bad taste in my mouth.

The reason I started this thread was to try to engage in a productive exchange and to clarify buzz lightyear's position. Pretty soon and hard, vanity kicked in. What has been accomplished?



Buzz lightyear, I wish you the best in your endeavours. May you find what you're looking for.
 
GzuzKryzt said:
Buzz lightyear, I wish you the best in your endeavours. May you find what you're looking for.
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Oh no, not you too Gzuz! First it was Jackalgirl, then The Athiest, now you.
All my friends are deserting me.
What is wrong guys?
Is it my personal freshness??
Or is there a new "woo" in town?

Anyway old friend, it has been, as they say in the movies "a gas" .
You keep that band practice going in your dads garage and one day it will be all "weddings wakes and circumcisions".
 
Belz... said:
You're trying to make the thing sound scientific. Unfortunately, since you're the only one verifying your undoubtedly anticipated results, you're lacking one of the fundamental aspects of a scientific study: peer review.

Again, how can you tell them from hallucinations ? I have dreams all the time, and while I'm having them I usually can't tell that I'm dreaming.
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It is pretty hard to get peer review on this subject Belz.
The fact that I have to resort to disscussing the subject on an internet forum is testament to that.

The major difference detween dreams and the type of "visions" that I experience, is that in the visions I am fully conscious.
So interaction with entities in the vision is on a conscious level, not as an observer as would happen in a dream.

Since the nature of the vision is closly related to the sounds that I am producing, to alter or stop them is simply achieved by altering the pitch or magnitude of my voice.
 
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