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Buzz lightyear and the JREF Challenge

There is probably 60,000 or so Iraqi civilians who would probably disagree with you Belz, but they can't, they're dead.

More than 6,000,000 jewish people - along with 50+ million war victims - would probably disagree with your assessment, buzz lightyear. But they can't.

But for me it is the arrogance and stupidity of Bush and co. that puts them in the ranks of all time idiots.
At the time when they decided to attack the Islamic world, tensions were high enough. Now they are at crisis point.

After the 9/11 attacks, America had the sympathy of the world. If they had used this energy combined with a change of foreign policy we would have a much more stable and peaceful world today.
And if the 60 billion dollars a year, that it costs uncle sam to kill and maim was spent on aid programs, who knows what may have been achieved.

Sorry Belz, George is up there with the worst of them.

"If ifs, ands or buts were candy and nuts..."

Buzz lightyear, if you would make a coherent and testable claim, we could move forward in this thread. :p :D ;) L effing OL!
 
There is probably 60,000 or so Iraqi civilians who would probably disagree with you Belz...
A cunning double use post; a way to avoid addressing the issues again and a new field in which to demonstrate ignorance.
 
Buzz, do you sell crazy elsewhere, or just here on your off time?

Just asking.
 
Even if that were true, which it isn't, he would have a symbolic representation of an entirely meaningless number.

Well Paul, I had a bit of a scrounge around and came up with this explanation of the swaztika, 666 thing.
It is a bit funky new age but a sensitive guy like you could probably dig it.



And nice to hear from you JC Fla. I sell the "crazy" mainly to you guys, you need it the most.
Don't you realise that without skeptics there would still be plenty of woos, but without woos there would be no skeptics.
So your little club relies on hard working people like me to stay in existance.
 
This is the picture on the front of the card
I'm sure the person that spent all that time on it was very happy in their delusions, but, it has nothing to do with Hitler or aryan supremacy and 666 is still just another number, in case you haven't been keeping up with your biblical mis-translations lately.
 
There is probably 60,000 or so Iraqi civilians who would probably disagree with you Belz, but they can't, they're dead.

I've got a few million jews who'd scream louder about this. Plus a few million more dead russians, etc.

You're trying to make it sound like Bush went to Iraq to kill people.

But for me it is the arrogance and stupidity of Bush and co. that puts them in the ranks of all time idiots.

That I can agree with.

At the time when they decided to attack the Islamic world, tensions were high enough. Now they are at crisis point.

It might not have been the smartest decision, indeed.

Sorry Belz, George is up there with the worst of them.

No, I don't think so. You'd fit right in with the 9/11 CTers. Your political bias would be lovely over there.
 
...swaztika, 666 thing.
...

Any excuse for a Slayer quote:

"The pestilence is Jesus Christ
There never was a sacrifice
No man upon the crucifix
Beware the cult of purity
Infectious imbecility
I've made my choice. Six six six.
"

(Slayer, "Cult" from the album "Christ Illusion".)
 
...swaztika, 666 thing.
...

Any excuse for a Slayer quote:

"The pestilence is Jesus Christ
There never was a sacrifice
No man upon the crucifix
Beware the cult of purity
Infectious imbecility
I've made my choice. Six six six.
"

(Slayer, "Cult" from the album "Christ Illusion".)
 
...swaztika, 666 thing.
...

Any excuse for a Slayer quote:

"The pestilence is Jesus Christ
There never was a sacrifice
No man upon the crucifix
Beware the cult of purity
Infectious imbecility
I've made my choice. Six six six.
"

(Slayer, "Cult" from the album "Christ Illusion".)
 
...swaztika, 666 thing.
...

Any excuse for a Slayer quote:

"The pestilence is Jesus Christ
There never was a sacrifice
No man upon the crucifix
Beware the cult of purity
Infectious imbecility
I've made my choice. Six six six.
"

(Slayer, "Cult" from the album "Christ Illusion".)
 
You're trying to make it sound like Bush went to Iraq to kill people.
It might not have been the smartest decision, indeed.

We could probably start a whole new thread on this subject Belz.

But while we are here, what did you think was going to happen when you wage war in a urban environment?
The civilians were going to be miraculously protected by the accuracy of the American "shock and awe"?
Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!

The awful thing is that those of us who lived through the Vietnam war years could see this mess comming.

The Arab nations have been waging war on each other from the dawn of time, so they are well skilled in this field.
If you look at the origins of Islam you will see that Mohammed set this religion up to stop these people cutting each others throats.

So the end of this invasion will probably look very similar or worse to the end of the conflict in Vietnam. And the most vivid images for me are the people scrambling into helecopters from roof tops. And then these same helecopters being pushed into the ocean from the decks of aircraft carriers.
Not what you would call a victory march.
 
We could probably start a whole new thread on this subject Belz.

But while we are here, what did you think was going to happen when you wage war in a urban environment?
The civilians were going to be miraculously protected by the accuracy of the American "shock and awe"?
Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!

The awful thing is that those of us who lived through the Vietnam war years could see this mess comming.

The Arab nations have been waging war on each other from the dawn of time, so they are well skilled in this field.
If you look at the origins of Islam you will see that Mohammed set this religion up to stop these people cutting each others throats.

So the end of this invasion will probably look very similar or worse to the end of the conflict in Vietnam. And the most vivid images for me are the people scrambling into helecopters from roof tops. And then these same helecopters being pushed into the ocean from the decks of aircraft carriers.
Not what you would call a victory march.

You are trying to make sense of American foreign policy, when you can't even make sense of your own "theories"? Classic projection.

The Atheist is right: You are hilarious.
 
But while we are here, what did you think was going to happen when you wage war in a urban environment?

Lots of dead people.

The civilians were going to be miraculously protected by the accuracy of the American "shock and awe"?
Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!

You're battling a straw man, here.

The awful thing is that those of us who lived through the Vietnam war years could see this mess comming.

The vietnam war was in an urban environment ?

Not what you would call a victory march.

Irrelevant to your point that Bush is somehow the new Fürher.
 

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