Cont: Brexit: Now What? Part 6. Pick up sticks...

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I vaguely remember a scifi novel about a future Britain split between advanced, walled, city states and the bowling barbarian wilderness. Prophetic.
Not the book you are looking for but on a similar theme 'Star Fraction' by Ken MacLeod.
 
AIUI it's the Good Friday Agreement which demands there is no border. The UK and the Republic of Ireland both signed up to it.

Underneath it all the old questions about the future of Northern Ireland are still festering away. Membership of the EU allowed both sides to simply ignore them for the last 20 years, now that's no longer possible and things could get ugly.

This was another example of the Leave side simply airily assuming everyone else in the EU would bend over backwards to accommodate the UK. If there's a stop button on this whole idiotic Brexit process someone needs to have the courage to press it now.
 
Underneath it all the old questions about the future of Northern Ireland are still festering away. Membership of the EU allowed both sides to simply ignore them for the last 20 years, now that's no longer possible and things could get ugly.

This was another example of the Leave side simply airily assuming everyone else in the EU would bend over backwards to accommodate the UK. If there's a stop button on this whole idiotic Brexit process someone needs to have the courage to press it now.

The point of no return was passed on 23 June 2016
 
Sorry, the country voted to throw itself off a cliff. Now it has no choice and will have to jump. Also sorry that the trampoline that was promised will no longer be available.

Absolute rubbish.

It's not the fault of Johnson, Rees-Mogg, David Davis and so on that May has proven utterly incapable of negotiating a deal which will mean gravity will no longer apply to the UK.
 
There is no way the EU is going to go back to 22 June 2016 after the events since. They have said in black and white many times that there is no going back.

No they haven't. The only official word we will have had is from the ECJ which has indicated that the law says we can withdraw our Art 50 any time.
 
I think Britain staying in the EU would be the best option for both sides, but I wonder what a second referendum would mean down the line.

Let's say Remain wins (which I expect would happen). Britain probably ends up a little worse off than they used to be, a large part of the population has an added incentive to be suspicious of the government, many politicians have their favourite scapegoat back, and some of them can go on about how Brexit was betrayed to their heart's content.

What happens in a few years when inevitably people aren't as satisfied with their lives as they think they should be, when some parts of the country start moaning about how much better things would be if Britain had left the EU, when certain politicians try to score points again? A third referendum? Another crack at this terribly expensive circus?

I really don't know, and I think any conversation about stopping Brexit needs to address this.
 
That works either way. Whether Brexit is prevented or not, half of the country is going to blame all future bad news on the other lot's stupid choice.

I agree, and I feel this has been handled terribly from the very beginning. The referendum should never have happened in that way (hindsight is 20/20 and all that). I don't know whether this was possible, but it should have been framed as a vote on whether the government should start negotiating possible exit strategies with the EU. A second referendum could then decide whether Britain remains in the EU or takes the resulting deal.

This has the benefit of putting all relevant information on the table and is also a proper final decision. If Britain still jumps after seeing that there are rocks below ... well, Darwin Awards etc.

Instead, the country is set to be divided for a few generations no matter what happens. Personally I'm hoping it will open up a proper discussion about what the EU actually does and that voters will be better informed in the future. Not holding my breath though.
 
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