Cont: Brexit: Now What? Part 6. Pick up sticks...

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Archie Gemmill Goal said:
In a wonderful couldn't-make-it-up moment Spain have now said they will veto the deal anyway unless the situation on Gibraltar is clarified.
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Their veto is kind of irrelevant though, the deal will go through with a majority from the EU side, one country cant veto it. Spain is just grandstanding, there are elections coming up in a region bordering the Rock.
 
RolandRat said:
Their veto is kind of irrelevant though, the deal will go through with a majority from the EU side, one country cant veto it. Spain is just grandstanding, there are elections coming up in a region bordering the Rock.
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I think its more a case of Spain wanting clarification and nitpicking to make a point but they can make life very difficult in future negotiations if they are handled badly now. They could veto any future trade deal for example.
 
This is getting truly bizarre. Theresa May is now planning to appeal to the British public in a special radio broadcast in the hope that an expression of the will of the people will over-rule Parliament's almost certain rejection of the Brexit deal. It seems she's trying to hold an informal referendum without actually holding a referendum. The advantage, no doubt, is that she'll then feel free to claim that the public wants whatever she wants the public to want; but who's going to be fooled by that?

Dave
 
a_unique_person said:
Boycott is one of her inspirations.
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Not perhaps the best one.
...with the relief expedition [of Orangmen], and it was reckoned that it had cost up to £10,000 to save a harvest worth at most £350.
The Connaught Telegraph gave extensive coverage to the episode and, under the heading ‘OUR INVADERS’, James Daly recorded the miserable state of the rain-sodden volunteers and soldiers and, as was his wont, called for restraint by hotheads to avoid any danger of bloodshed.
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Boycott died a bankrupt; his wife was sued over his funeral expenses.
 
Interesting collection of quotes gleaned from Twitter

“There will be no downside to Brexit, only a considerable upside.”
David Davis
10 October 2016

“Getting out of the EU can be quick and easy – the UK holds most of the cards.”
John Redwood
July 17 2016

“The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history.”
Liam Fox
20 July 2017

“We're not really interested in a transition deal, but we'll consider one to be kind to the EU.”
David Davis
15 November 2016

“I believe that we can get a free trade and customs agreement concluded before March 2019.”
David Davis
18 January 2017

“Indeed, [a trade deal] would take significantly less than two years. We hold all the cards. We will offer them a deal in response to their pleas for help.”
Patrick Minford
14 June 2016

“I am not worried about transitional arrangements. I am prepared to take the economic hit to secure the economic benefits of not being inside the Single Market and being outside the Customs Union. I simply want... a quickie divorce.”
Michael Gove
17 November 2016

“We are going to get a deal which is of huge value and possibly of greater value.”
Boris Johnson
16 November 2016

“Within two years, before the negotiation with the EU is likely to be complete, we can negotiate a free trade area massively larger than the EU. The new trade agreements will come into force at the point of exit, but they will be fully negotiated.”
David Davis
14 July 2016

“Trade relations with the EU could be sorted out in an afternoon over a cup of coffee.”
Gerard Batten
17 February 2017

“Within minutes of a vote for Brexit, CEOs would be knocking down Chancellor Merkel’s door demanding access to the British market.”
David Davis
4 February 2016

“The cost of getting out would be virtually nil and the cost of staying in would be very high.”
Boris Johnson
6 March 2016

“I think we could very easily get a better trade deal than we have at the moment.”
Douglas Carswell
8 June 2016

“All David Davis needs to say to is: listen guys free trade or WTO?”
Tim Martin
2 January 2017

"It will be easy to negotiate a trade deal. It's in the EU's interests."
Paul Nutall
17 January 2017

"Nobody ever pretended this would be simple or easy."
David Davis
5 September 2017

“If we need to leave with no deal and negotiate a free trade agreement during the transition period, so be it.” [If we leave with no deal, there is no transition period]
David Davis
November 2017
 
I see that, as a nation, we've apparently decided that the criminal irregularities within the leave campaign aren't important.


When implementing 'the will of the people' (tm)...
 
Ian Osborne said:
Interesting collection of quotes gleaned from Twitter

“There will be no downside to Brexit, only a considerable upside.”
David Davis
10 October 2016

“Getting out of the EU can be quick and easy – the UK holds most of the cards.”
John Redwood
July 17 2016

“The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history.”
Liam Fox
20 July 2017

“We're not really interested in a transition deal, but we'll consider one to be kind to the EU.”
David Davis
15 November 2016

“I believe that we can get a free trade and customs agreement concluded before March 2019.”
David Davis
18 January 2017

“Indeed, [a trade deal] would take significantly less than two years. We hold all the cards. We will offer them a deal in response to their pleas for help.”
Patrick Minford
14 June 2016

“I am not worried about transitional arrangements. I am prepared to take the economic hit to secure the economic benefits of not being inside the Single Market and being outside the Customs Union. I simply want... a quickie divorce.”
Michael Gove
17 November 2016

“We are going to get a deal which is of huge value and possibly of greater value.”
Boris Johnson
16 November 2016

“Within two years, before the negotiation with the EU is likely to be complete, we can negotiate a free trade area massively larger than the EU. The new trade agreements will come into force at the point of exit, but they will be fully negotiated.”
David Davis
14 July 2016

“Trade relations with the EU could be sorted out in an afternoon over a cup of coffee.”
Gerard Batten
17 February 2017

“Within minutes of a vote for Brexit, CEOs would be knocking down Chancellor Merkel’s door demanding access to the British market.”
David Davis
4 February 2016

“The cost of getting out would be virtually nil and the cost of staying in would be very high.”
Boris Johnson
6 March 2016

“I think we could very easily get a better trade deal than we have at the moment.”
Douglas Carswell
8 June 2016

“All David Davis needs to say to is: listen guys free trade or WTO?”
Tim Martin
2 January 2017

"It will be easy to negotiate a trade deal. It's in the EU's interests."
Paul Nutall
17 January 2017

"Nobody ever pretended this would be simple or easy."
David Davis
5 September 2017

“If we need to leave with no deal and negotiate a free trade agreement during the transition period, so be it.” [If we leave with no deal, there is no transition period]
David Davis
November 2017
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It's a shame there is not a 'like' button.
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
I think its more a case of Spain wanting clarification and nitpicking to make a point but they can make life very difficult in future negotiations if they are handled badly now. They could veto any future trade deal for example.
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I disagree. This issue always comes up when this or that election comes up in Spain. The EU want a deal, they want trade to continue with the UK, Spain on its own is just the equivalent of Rees-Mogg loudly complaining in the corner. No-one really cares, they will just get a pat on the head and things will continue.
 
RolandRat said:
I disagree. This issue always comes up when this or that election comes up in Spain. The EU want a deal, they want trade to continue with the UK, Spain on its own is just the equivalent of Rees-Mogg loudly complaining in the corner. No-one really cares, they will just get a pat on the head and things will continue.
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Not when it comes to a future trade deal it isn't. They could veto it. Which is why I say you don't want to annoy them at this stage. Especially when the EU knows that the UK is basically desperate right now.
 
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