kitakaze said:
Blackdog, if there is confusion at your forum of our praise for Bobbie's site or not taking issue with Bobbie's bigfoot beliefs then maybe I can offer an explanation. Bobbie Short is a long-time bigfoot believer and chronicler and has created a site that we, you, and many frequently reference regarding bigfootery information. It goes without saying that we here are in disagreement with her position on the existence of bigfoot. That said, I for one have no expectation for a bigfoot skeptic to have put together a site so comprehensive over such a long period of time.
In adding the SC and MDF to the hoaxes and rumours section of her website, some of us here consider it a significant treatment of bigfootery claims. Try to keep in mind what irrelevance those particular claims have outside bigfootery. Their failure as reliable evidence was promptly recognized long ago. I for one find it more productive to first acknowledge forthrightness with specific dubious claims before expecting it or being critical of its lack elsewhere. Call it a certain type of pragmatism but I do not expect people such as Bobbie Short or others so deeply involved in Woods and Wildmen to abandon belief so easily.
Blackdog, I do have one question for you. Can you tell me if and how any of the regular contributers here at the JREF's bigfoot threads qualify as skeptical extremists?Also, since some of the members of your board also post at the BFF where Noll is currently participating, maybe one them could take up the issue there. I would mention this also to our Diogenes or RayG who post here and at the BFF.
And back to Bobbie, in fairness, given the complete ridiculousness of JC/MG's claims, why have you not moved them to the hoax section?
Also, are you quite certain you did in fact have a bigfoot sighting? If so, why?
Nope no confusion, did you think there was? I honestly don't care why you care about (or praise) any website, including the one I post on, maybe you give yourself too much credit for having an influence on other people. I just posted Bobbies account of Noll bringing the SC to the funeral because I wanted to find out if it were true. If she had posted it elsewhere I would have linked there.
First question. Anyone who resorts to making up cute names for people they disagree with doesn't get a lot of respect from me, whether it's Roger Knights' names like scoftic, suitnik or the names thrown around here. I think that is an extremist position and a bit ad hom. It takes away from your stance by stooping to a level of intolerance and an unwillingness to try to understand your opposition's POV. There are extremists here and there are extremists on the other side. I honestly don't believe an intelligent person such as yourself believes otherwise.
But this is your forum and knock yourselves out, that's what you're here for. I haven't seen you on BFD telling us how we can, or should, talk over there. You asked and I'm responding to your question.
I like to maintain a middle of the road position and anyone who checks my posting history will know I've stepped on more than a few toes in the "bigfoot community" (I still hate that phrase). In fact I'm not even allowed to freely post at BFF without moderator review. I'm hardly what you would refer to as a "Woo".
Second question. I don't care who takes the subject over to BFF, or even is anyone does, maybe that's something you could take care of since you brought it up.
Third question. What would you like me to move to the hoaxing section on BFD? A thread that isn't there? Can you point it out to me? I must be missing something. Maybe I should start one to make you happy and then move it. OK?
Fourth question. Are you quite certain you had a "Blackdog sighting account" sighting?
I've never had a bigfoot sighting, have never claimed to and I highly doubt I ever will. It's just an interest of mine. I assume that's OK with you and that you will maintain the high level of tolerance for individual thought that you normally exhibit.
You're welcome to join BFD anytime and ask questions there, that's probably the best place to ask them if you really care about an answer. I know you are a member over at Melissa's forum. Is it that she's just cuter than me or do you prefer to address your questions about BFD here where you have support?
Maybe you just missed me but I have a feeling I'm being baited for something.
