Bigfoot - The Patterson-Gimlin Film

[tconley2019]

Oh, and bait. Six words: Deer liver. Casting couch. Secret shame.

I'll say no more.

 

[Drewbot]

It never crossed my mind that a non-participant in a thread about government funding of BF research, would read my comment about 'government tax breaks for Bigfoot research' and take it seriously.
You are right though, it does sound like it comes from the 'BF braids my horse's mane' posse though.

 

[kitakaze]

It never crossed my mind that a non-participant in a thread about government funding of BF research, would read my comment about 'government tax breaks for Bigfoot research' and take it seriously.

It wouldn't have crossed my mind either. I would have thought twice about being subtle if had guys like this around, though:

It clearly states in the bible and other ancient texts that gaints where employed to go into battle with the roman army . They where also used to build the pyrimids I cant spell sorry . I am not makeing this up so dont be telling me to get a heavyer brand of foil to make my hats out of . At this time we dont know if these gaints where covered with hair or not but some of the scriptures sugjest they may have been .If your going to be a researcher you better take a look at the bible and also the jewish texts if you dont then your not being open minded about this . As far as the US military I have reason to beleave they know about them they are liveing on there land if they dont know about it then they are not doing a very good job of protecting the bases .

*pssst* He needs a heavier brand of foil.

You are right though, it does sound like it comes from the 'BF braids my horse's mane' posse though.

I'll pass on a tip if you know anyone that wants to score some points on some JREF rabid skeptics. The Lisa Shiel types actually have a better sell than the jarringly bad 'too remote/BF is everywhere' problem a lot of your buddies over at the BFF haven't quite figured out what to do with. Seriously, every single point we could raise... "Mothership." Game over.

 

[Drewbot]

At this time we dont know if these gaints where covered with hair or not but some of the scriptures sugjest they may have been

Anyone who saw '300' knows that that giant, enslaved by Xerxes, did not have hair, in fact, he was bald.

 

[Tokenconservative]

Wow...I thought this one had been put to bed years ago...didn't it turn out that one of these guys was a Hollywood FX guy?

Even if not, here's the question: today, unlike back when this film was supposedly shot, Americans fill these remote forest areas in numbers that are enough to cause "brown clouds" of vehicle emission pollution over many of them...more people hike, and bike, and climb and ride various machines into the back country than ever before.

Moreover, most of them carry with them various small, very high-quality imaging devices from teleophones to digital still and video cameras.

So here is the question: why, if the hills are crawling with Big Foots (Feet?) is this STILL the best motion image footage available for the proof?

Tokie

 

[Tokenconservative]

Anyone who saw '300' knows that that giant, enslaved by Xerxes, did not have hair, in fact, he was bald.

LOL.

It's a little hard to rely on Hollywood for much, I think, although '300' is an excellent film (that most of Hollywood hated).

Meanwhile, pretty easy to explain the hairy "giants" in Biblical and other ancient texts: somebody saw a gorilla. And incorporated that into their myths.

Tokie

 

[LTC8K6]

Well, if you'll bluff charge an eight foot tall eight hundred pound hairy monster, you'll do anything.

 

[Starthinker]

Wow...I thought this one had been put to bed years ago...didn't it turn out that one of these guys was a Hollywood FX guy?

Even if not, here's the question: today, unlike back when this film was supposedly shot, Americans fill these remote forest areas in numbers that are enough to cause "brown clouds" of vehicle emission pollution over many of them...more people hike, and bike, and climb and ride various machines into the back country than ever before.

Moreover, most of them carry with them various small, very high-quality imaging devices from teleophones to digital still and video cameras.

So here is the question: why, if the hills are crawling with Big Foots (Feet?) is this STILL the best motion image footage available for the proof?

Tokie

I think you need to read every single post in this thread.

 

[kitakaze]

Wow...I thought this one had been put to bed years ago...didn't it turn out that one of these guys was a Hollywood FX guy?

Hi, Toke. You seem to have gotten a telephone game version of the John Chambers rumour. For all the bigfoot apologism you can handle relating to a complete absence of reliable evidence please see the FAQ section at the Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization.

 

[kitakaze]

Anyone who saw '300' knows that that giant, enslaved by Xerxes, did not have hair, in fact, he was bald.

Oh, so you missed the bald bigfoot reports?

 

[Drewbot]

Oh, so you missed the bald bigfoot reports?

Yes, I missed them. I can only assume that they are the Southern Sub-species, because everyone knows that knocked over tree shelters would not be able to keep the follically-challenged BF warm.

 

[kitakaze]

It seems that Patty didn't mind being filmed because she apparently strolled past the cameraman and even looked back towards him. Why is it now that sasquatch are so camera shy? And also, what could they have used for bait?

manofthesea, as a bigfoot believer you should further endeavour to understand the complexities of Woods and Wildmen. Bait is only necessary when you don't wish to actually encounter the creature(s). See Skookum Cast. Roll +9-12, acquire first contact skills (stick and clorets):

Extra roll of +1-3, proceed to be herded by sasquatches following contact.

How are you enjoying bigfootery so far, BTW?

 

[kitakaze]

Yes, I missed them. I can only assume that they are the Southern Sub-species, because everyone knows that knocked over tree shelters would not be able to keep the follically-challenged BF warm.

Do enjoy:

http://www.kentuckybigfoot.com/pictures.htm

Whilst counting toes, admiring snouts, noting hairlessness, and other intriguing points of variation of the zoobies, please don't fail to observe the many 'under witness direction' notifications.

 

[manofthesea]

manofthesea, as a bigfoot believer you should further endeavour to understand the complexities of Woods and Wildmen. Bait is only necessary when you don't wish to actually encounter the creature(s). See Skookum Cast. Roll +9-12, acquire first contact skills (stick and clorets):

Extra roll of +1-3, proceed to be herded by sasquatches following contact.

How are you enjoying bigfootery so far, BTW?

That's simply brilliant. Bait not needed. Got it. What to do about the camera shyness?

(WnW lvl 10-NA) But my recommendation, if baiting was desirable, would be some type of rich tuber or small fruit.

 

[manofthesea]

On a (interesting) sidenote

My son (astronomy student), now working with DLNR, has a pretty cool temporary job. Control of invasive species. One project, trying to trap an "unidentified small primate" at a local reservoir. Cool, huh. I suggested that it may be a wallabee that migrated down from a local mountain ridge. He stated that he witnessed it at night as it popped upright and stared at them. He couldn't tell if it had a tail. But he knows it was a monkey. Not a small hominid (alas, not a menehune tale), just an escaped pet. He says more like a released pet. But, he said that the darned thing is smart, and that it removed all of the bait/snack from the trap and then left the trap tipped over.

 

[kitakaze]

That's simply brilliant. Bait not needed. Got it. What to do about the camera shyness?

(WnW lvl 10-NA) But my recommendation, if baiting was desirable, would be some type of rich tuber or small fruit.

We've heard that popcorn or feminine sanitary products may also be ideal but do beware potential run-ins with meth cooking operations. As for camera shyness, in accordance with MK Davis' 'Digger Indian' idea relating to Patty, and considering recent videos, there may be some merit to having a native American present during the attempt. Tlingit language ability maybe be an asset when attempting coversation should contact be made.

 

[manofthesea]

We've heard that popcorn or feminine sanitary products may also be ideal but do beware potential run-ins with meth cooking operations. As for camera shyness, in accordance with MK Davis' 'Digger Indian' idea relating to Patty, and considering recent videos, there may be some merit to having a native American present during the attempt. Tlingit language ability maybe be an asset when attempting coversation should contact be made.

Thanks, man. You really are a wealth of information. And interactive. Makes me kinda feel like Capt. Kirk, sitting in his break room and talking to the know-it-all computer with the sexy voice. However, sometimes I also get the feeling that I'm Agent 86, talking with that other guy, with the silence bubble thingie coming down upon my head.
But, it would also be nice to have a native or local with you in any private forest. A really good place to play WnW is any NP. Amenities nearby!
And you wanna talk meth? Maybe if we diverted some resources in our war on drugs, we could combat the real destructive drugs. This last part is not really serious to the discussion of bigfoot, or the film.

 

[Drewbot]

What would the roll-bonus be for Pinwheel usage in lieu of edible baits and/or sanitary products? Are there roll-bonus allocations for the cheap dollar store pinwheels vs. expensive pinwheels with extra sparkles, and maybe some ribbon on the 'wand'?

 

[manofthesea]

That's insincere. And baiting is irrelevant to the film, it appears. Unless the goodies were further along the path. This in itself is a revalation in that the use of trailcams and baitcams would need to be situated away from the bait station itself.

 

[kitakaze]

Thanks, man. You really are a wealth of information. And interactive. Makes me kinda feel like Capt. Kirk, sitting in his break room and talking to the know-it-all computer with the sexy voice. However, sometimes I also get the feeling that I'm Agent 86, talking with that other guy, with the silence bubble thingie coming down upon my head.

Aw, hey, no sweat. That's what rabid skeptics are here for. I know how you feel with the... know-it-all computer... with the... sexy voice? Whathamuthafaa!? So speaking of drugs...

But, it would also be nice to have a native or local with you in any private forest. A really good place to play WnW is any NP. Amenities nearby!

Try searching Gifford Pinchot National Forest on this board for about 32 things on the subject I'm too lazy to rehash now. In the meantime I feel like semi-randomly posting a link to what I think to have been the most lucid moment in HH's 'There is no bigfoot' thread, posted by BFF member Chunk:

http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=20290&view=findpost&p=406897

Nailed it.