bigfoot is real I have the proof

Creekfreak said:
Thanks PC I look forward to your findings . As for all you others nice try you havent proved that this is a hoax in anyway as a matter of fact you have helped my case . Ive got to go to work keep trying you cannot and will not prove this is a hoax . The creatures are in the photo not very clear but they are there and with the proper enhanceing you will see them .
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You are just digging a bigger hole for yourself and for the record unless proven wrong I serious suspect you and thunderfoot are the same person,

sock puppet anyone?
 
You know, there is only one thing that I have learned from this thread, I have a paralyzing fear of Spiderbears. Is that rational?

Those two words should never be typed/spoken EVER!!!
 
Creekfreak said:
As for all you others nice try you havent proved that this is a hoax in anyway as a matter of fact you have helped my case .
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*bolding mine*

If you wouldn't mind enlightening us, CF... How exactly are we helping your case? Thus far, JREF members have:

-picked apart the many insonsitencies in your story (or the various versions of it)
-given you a stage to make your case and you've instead chosen to display your unwillingness to answer basic questions
-reprimanded you for your childish stalling and avoidance tactics
-upon receipt of your "proof" shown that it is in no way consistent with what you claim.
-we've shown that the only way to arrive at the evidence you first presented is by substantial forgery on the part of someone (not necessarily you)

Even your own expert has deemed this to be a hoax. Every exploration of the evidence by anyone but you seems to result in the same conclusion that there is no creature; it's just the illusion of a figure cause by the lack of brush in a particular spot.

So the JREF is not helping your case, your expert is not helping your case and you, sir, are certainly not helping your case. The ONLY thing you have going for you is that some might give you the benefit of the doubt that you genuinely do believe in Bigfoot and may not have perpetrated the hoax, but you're certainly trying to perpetuate it.
 
DrewD said:
You know, there is only one thing that I have learned from this thread, I have a paralyzing fear of Spiderbears. Is that rational?

Those two words should never be typed/spoken EVER!!!
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However, a Bearspider would be an interesting, low-maintenance pet that fit inside a matchbox!!! :eye-poppi
 
Nope sorry Mike, your wrong on that one bud. My name is Cliff Millergren I live in Wewahitchka, FL about 12 miles from Creeks place. You can look me up on the Gulf County records too bup PLEASE don't post it on here. Thanx
 
ThunderFoot said:
Nope sorry Mike, your wrong on that one bud. My name is Cliff Millergren I live in Wewahitchka, FL about 12 miles from Creeks place. You can look me up on the Gulf County records too bup PLEASE don't post it on here. Thanx
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Fair enough Cliff,

I'm of the "I wont if you dont" school, so don't sweat it. If I am wrong on that count, my bad, my apologies, but your bud is doing NOTHING to help himself...
 
Well, Cliff, while I'm sure you and your friend Gary are both well-meaning individuals, I think there comes a time for concession. I know you both wanted this to pan out, but the more we go over it, the more it's apparent that there's nothing there.

The guy who "enhanced" these photos likely tampered with them to create the illusion of a bigfoot face. Maybe it was just a mis-communication and he thought his job was to accentuate the features to make it more apparent, but the truth is that those features did not exist at all in the original.

It's a fake. I think it's time to give up hope on these photos as having any kind of proof.
 
I'm glad to see Creek let DW post the pics, atleast they are out now. Maybe someone can do something with them and clean them up and see that is all that was done the first time. Nothing added or any one drawing anything on the photos. Maybe I am just being to hopeful but I do see it, even in the original photograph. Not as clear as the enhanced but it is still there.

Remember I grew up here. There are no stumps where they are standing. Too much salt water for that. The tide comeing in and out floods the marsh grass areas you see in the photographs. If you will look on Google earth you will see how close East Bay is to this area. The intercostal waterway is only a mile or less from the photo site. The ground is low enough the mud there will not grow pine. The bushes you see next to them are more salt tollarent and will grow in the mud. The pine trees you see in the back ground is on a little higher ground with different soil that is more tollerant of pine. The costal area of N.W. Florida is very diverse and can change in only a few feet. Just some food for thought.
 
Well, I have to get ready to go play some music. I'll try to get back on later tonight to see where this goes. Y'all have fun and be careful tonight.

And remember Florida was #2 in DUI related deaths last year so drink up and go get'em,,
Just kidding,, just kidding....
 
ThunderFoot said:
I'm glad to see Creek let DW post the pics, atleast they are out now. Maybe someone can do something with them and clean them up and see that is all that was done the first time. Nothing added or any one drawing anything on the photos. Maybe I am just being to hopeful but I do see it, even in the original photograph. Not as clear as the enhanced but it is still there.
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The stump idea originated with Creek. That was his impression of it at first, which was a mis-perception. There is definitely an optical illusion present, but as far as seeing a Bigfoot in there, it's just wishful thinking.

Nobody can fault you wanting it to be true, but there comes a time when reality must be faced. In this case, look over the past 3 pages of posts. No matter how we enhance the image, boost, saturate or strip colors out of it, there are features that were generated in the first "enhanced" image which do not appear in any of the originals nor in the enhancement of any JREF members or darkwing.

There's really nothing left. Creek is just in denial. At first I even thought there was definitely something there, but after looking at some of the enhancements and throwing in a dose of self-skepticism, I too accepted the fact that it's not a solid object but rather the lack of brush being filled in by the darkness of the woods in the background and nicely framed to the shape of a gorilla in the foreground. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
I agree that the blob is a shadow but I can also see why Creek is so excited about it. If a believer looked at the shadow long enough it certainly could look bigfootish. Sort of.
 
Colour me gobsmacked.

The bigfootus imaginii are just leaping out of the pic at me. No, tell a lie, it's actually a bigfootus imaginii invisibulmagnificorius BSer. Apparently that's the most common type of BF known to Creekkind.

Darkwing, - you have through no fault of your own been dragged into this quagmire. You have conducted yourself with dignity and style in this thread. I see I am not alone in appreciating your efforts here. You have my respect and I applaud you.


Creekfreak - you are a laughing stock. You have my utter contempt and I mock in your general direction.


ThunderFoot - time to admit your part in the hoax, or do you want to keep up the pretence?

ThunderFoot said:
I live here. Gary is a personal friend of mine and I do have personal knowledge that the photgraphs are not a hoax. I have them all on my computer and I took them right off the camera. I have been to this location and asked "Creek" if I could post the location.
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Nope sorry Mike, your wrong on that one bud. My name is Cliff Millergren I live in Wewahitchka, FL about 12 miles from Creeks place. You can look me up on the Gulf County records too bup PLEASE don't post it on here. Thanx
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Just don't claim that you don't care if locations are revealed, and that you don't care if anyone visits you and reveals those locations, and then refuse to give the locations yourself...it causes people to try to find said locations on their own.
 
Preliminary look says the following:

I don't see any bigfoot. sorry.

EXIF data on the ones I looked at says "last modification" time agrees with initial exposure time and with date displayed (except of course for the enhanced one which lacks proper datat), so unless someone knew how to fudge the exif data, I'm guessing the photos are not faked. I don't see any obvious signs of manipulation in the originals, and suspect anything that looks like a bigfoot is an artifact of poor camera resolution, which can often turn a simple line such as a twig into something that appears more complex.

Sorry, Creek, I don't think you've got it here. I'm glad you finally posted them, and applaud Darkwing for his forbearance.
 
Photographic proof below:





























































































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Any fool can see that's Yellowhandle of the Redseat tribe ... most definitely not Bigwheel.

You just have to enhance the pic in Photoshop to see the blue eyes. Speaking of which, it is blatantly obvious the alleged "Big Wheel" tribal tattoo as shown has been Photoshopped by a friend of a friend of this bloke I met in a pub one night. Prove me wrong!!!111eleventyone!
 
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