Merged A God of Love / The Living God

[Johanabrahams]

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It is not the file. It is the lack of "education".

 

[Johanabrahams]

Wow, you've just summed up why Christianity is vile

I am saying it. Meaning I am "vile". No problem to me. It is you having the problem. Associating with a "vile" person. Remember you live in my Grace. I Love you in spite of who you are. Seeing me as "vile". I see you as my child. A big difference in quality of Life. I have Life and you have "vile"

while reinforcing the fact that you have only the most tenuous grip on reality.

You are missing reality you could have had. While living "vile".

The concept that people are unworthy is evil and pernicious. No one had to die so I or anyone else could be loved.

You just saw why it was necessary. You see your Mother as "vile". So your Mother needs to Love you although that is your opinion. That opened up Grace. The Characteristic of God enabling Him to Love those that reject Him like you are doing now to me.

You bring nothing of value to me. The love of a fraud (and remember, Ive seen your kind before) is an insult.

Nope. Real Godly Love. That should pick you up into Godly reality.

Knowing the harm you and your kind cause, what makes you think I want any association with you other than to rebuke you?

Love does not harm. Lack of it cause . . ."vile". For those that treasure it.

 

[Porpoise of Life]

It is not the file. It is the lack of "education".

Sure...

I studied at got my masters and practised theology in my church.

I don't think a lack of education is to blame for your barely coherent rants...

 

[Johanabrahams]

"And now I'm praying for the end of time."

Very worthy prayer.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Sure...


I don't think a lack of education is to blame for your barely coherent rants...

Nope but lack of godly education is to blame for your judgment.

 

[Porpoise of Life]

Nope but lack of godly education is to blame for your judgment.

Quit the sanctimonious bullcrap. Starving people who live in hovels might tolerate your nonsense because you throw some crumbs their way, but you're not fooling anyone here into thinking you're an even-tempered, loving, wise person.

Talking big on the internet is easy, anyone claim to be a prophet. In fact, we've got several of them on this website. Some are lying, some are insane.
I'd ask you to provide evidence for your special status, but for some reason I suspect you'd just waffle incoherently.

 

[Beady]

In every sense.

Do you even know what "the Biblical sense" of "to know" means? Humor seems to be completely beyond you. Well, to be fair, most religious folk find this portrait offensive. Come to think of it, however, the Bible never portrays a happy God. Does any religion?

This signature is intended to irritate people.

 

[Nay_Sayer]

Only a few options are present here;

1: Poe

2: Crank who is hopelessly, irreversibly, lost in a mental illness.

 

[TofuFighter]

Only a few options are present here;

1: Poe
2: Crank who is hopelessly, irreversibly, lost in a mental illness.

Considering the consistency of crankmanship, I'd go with 2.

It makes me question why this discussion is continuing.
We have a cult or two in South Africa, but i'm reasonably comfortable that the endless convoluted waffling from our resident god lacks anything near the charisma required to start a successful new one.

 

[Craig4]

I am saying it. Meaning I am "vile". No problem to me. It is you having the problem. Associating with a "vile" person. Remember you live in my Grace. I Love you in spite of who you are. Seeing me as "vile". I see you as my child. A big difference in quality of Life. I have Life and you have "vile"



You are missing reality you could have had. While living "vile".



You just saw why it was necessary. You see your Mother as "vile". So your Mother needs to Love you although that is your opinion. That opened up Grace. The Characteristic of God enabling Him to Love those that reject Him like you are doing now to me.




Nope. Real Godly Love. That should pick you up into Godly reality.



Love does not harm. Lack of it cause . . ."vile". For those that treasure it.

But you're not my mother. You're just some crank with a protection order against you.

 

[Craig4]

Considering the consistency of crankmanship, I'd go with 2.

It makes me question why this discussion is continuing.
We have a cult or two in South Africa, but i'm reasonably comfortable that the endless convoluted waffling from our resident god lacks anything near the charisma required to start a successful new one.

I've seen his kind in Africa before. He's a fraud taking things from the locals, hopefully just food, shelter and money but I've seen it go worse than that.

 

[TofuFighter]

I've seen his kind in Africa before. He's a fraud taking things from the locals, hopefully just food, shelter and money but I've seen it go worse than that.

There's really not a lot to take from the people in Nkqubela. I doubt that this is about obtaining material things. Evidence suggests to me that this kind of thing would solely be about feeding a messiah complex.

 

[Chanakya]

Only a few options are present here;

1: Poe

2: Crank who is hopelessly, irreversibly, lost in a mental illness.

You can say that again! Just went through this thread, not all of it, just bits and pieces : I hope it isn't an infraction of the MA (since I'm saying this about a fellow member), but I have to say, we seem to be in the presence of actual lunacy here! Real actual raving madness! Either that, or, like you suggest, Poe on a stunning scale.

Wonder why so many out-and-out nutjobs put up their soap boxes here in this skeptics' forum? They don't even have the million-dollar bait these days.

 

[abaddon]

You can say that again! Just went through this thread, not all of it, just bits and pieces : I hope it isn't an infraction of the MA (since I'm saying this about a fellow member), but I have to say, we seem to be in the presence of actual lunacy here! Real actual raving madness! Either that, or, like you suggest, Poe on a stunning scale.

Wonder why so many out-and-out nutjobs put up their soap boxes here in this skeptics' forum? They don't even have the million-dollar bait these days.

It might well be an MA violation. In any event, I can confirm that this thread isn't a Poe. Events largely transpired as the OP describes (excluding the OP spin on said events).

 

[Chanakya]

(...) I can confirm that this thread isn't a Poe (...)

In that case, just Wow! Nothing more one can say!

Wonder what draws these types here in such numbers? I haven't spent too much time here, but you and I have interacted on three such threads already that I recall.

(on the other hand I suppose their numbers are very small if one looks up the total number of members. I suppose it's just that posters like these tend to stand out.)

 

[abaddon]

In that case, just Wow! Nothing more one can say!

Wonder what draws these types here in such numbers? I haven't spent too much time here, but you and I have interacted on three such threads already that I recall.

(on the other hand I suppose their numbers are very small if one looks up the total number of members. I suppose it's just that posters like these tend to stand out.)

There are a range of answers to that. Poes do exist. Proselytisers do exist. Lunatics do exist. Sometimes each of those groups consider places such as ISF to be a challenge.

Poes, if they are good, will give you little or nothing to fact check.

Proselytisers score points in bible school for even making the attempt.

Loons simply don't care.

There may well be other groups. And it is possible to be a member of more than one group

Now, since our OP saw fit to publically post names, numbers and emails for his local protagonists, I saw fit to ask such people about it. As could you or anyone else here. The responses I received were very polite but to the point. While happy to confirm various points, it was made clear that they didn't want to get dragged back into this, having had a sufficient dose of pain in their community. I have to respect that and hence do not cite them, quote them or otherwise impose on them in any way.

 

[Porpoise of Life]

Any idea if he's the extortionist cult leader type Craig4 has come across, or more, let's say, sincere in his grandiose claims?

 

[abaddon]

Any idea if he's the extortionist cult leader type Craig4 has come across, or more, let's say, sincere in his grandiose claims?

Dunno if extortionist fits, but he has certainly solicited donations in the past.

http://www.geocities.ws/johanabrahams/page9.html

 

[Chanakya]

There are a range of answers to that. Poes do exist. Proselytisers do exist. Lunatics do exist. Sometimes each of those groups consider places such as ISF to be a challenge.

Poes, if they are good, will give you little or nothing to fact check.

Proselytisers score points in bible school for even making the attempt.

Loons simply don't care.

There may well be other groups. And it is possible to be a member of more than one group

Now, since our OP saw fit to publically post names, numbers and emails for his local protagonists, I saw fit to ask such people about it. As could you or anyone else here. The responses I received were very polite but to the point. While happy to confirm various points, it was made clear that they didn't want to get dragged back into this, having had a sufficient dose of pain in their community. I have to respect that and hence do not cite them, quote them or otherwise impose on them in any way.

That (highlighted) seems a reasonable explanation. Irrespective of which one (or more) of those boxes they come from, this place gives them attention, lets them air their views, plus presents a challenge (albeit* one they never win). Why wouldn't they spread out their wares here, those that do?

* Scratch that "albeit". One of OP's brother posters has spoilt that word for me! At least within this forum, and at least for some time, I don't think I'll see that word without thinking of a funny cap and blue nose.

 

[abaddon]

That (highlighted) seems a reasonable explanation. Irrespective of which one (or more) of those boxes they come from, this place gives them attention, lets them air their views, plus presents a challenge (albeit* one they never win). Why wouldn't they spread out their wares here, those that do?

* Scratch that "albeit". One of OP's brother posters has spoilt that word for me! At least within this forum, and at least for some time, I don't think I'll see that word without thinking of a funny cap and blue nose.

LOL.

Way back up thread, OP linked this from his own site.

Read it in detail. These are the OP's site and words which he linked back up-thread.