Porpoise of Life
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With a hefty dose of 'everybody pay attention to me, I'm special!'.
Merged A God of Love / The Living God
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With a hefty dose of 'everybody pay attention to me, I'm special!'.
Aepervius
Non credunt, semper verificare
With that type of love "gods" seem to offer mortals, I would like to have a safe word and use it immediately, please, thank you. I am opting out.
Nay_Sayer
I say nay!
Yes, eventually time will end.
However. It'll be roughly 10 duotrigintillion years from now during the heat death of the universe.
Happily your silliness can be added to this list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events
abaddon
Penultimate Amazing
What will you say when your predicted 2017 apocalypse by pandemic does not happen?Scientists also make predictions based on past experience. Think of Earth as a Petrie dish. Mankind is polluting it which is why bacteria stop growing in the dish.
STD's are on the rise. Untreatable diseases are appearing. The sixth extinction is under way. The global economy is failing and is only being held up by a lot of hot air. Conflicts are on the rise. Poverty and misery are rising. The elite are getting richer. It used to be that these circumstances were localized. Now they are global
I think I have a good chance of being right (aside from the fact that God told me) I would take you on a bet but the chances are you will not be around to pay off. In fact, there is also a good chance I may not be around to collect.
Will you double down and shift your prediction to 2018 like so many doom mongers before you?
Or will you honestly re-examine your unfounded beliefs?
I know where my bet is going.
Cosmic Yak
Philosopher
I have repeatedly linked to evidence showing that none of this is true. I'm surprised, what with your super-duper memory and all, that you don't remember this.
Johanabrahams
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My abilities to be a mother
Some are asking. They didn’t read my Bible. Well they should and not ask about what is written already.
But to help them just a short “letter of recommendation”. I had a “normal” family of 4 for many years. My eldest daughter grow up to 12 and my youngest one to 6. I studied at got my masters and practised theology in my church. I was wealthy as this church is the most wealthy in South Africa. The reason for being a reverend is obviously the amount of money and the status but also a mixture of love for God. So I aspired to do the best for my family. So I successfully handled this situation as a “father”.
Then God changed my situation to a more difficult one. He gave me a challenging situation where I didn’t have the “luxuries” of the first family. Which include a good job with lots of money obedient children and a wife helping with the situation. Now I had the “lowest” of jobs, working with a spade in the sun and a “boss” shouting at me for every mistake etc. And He steadily increased my children to thirteen while we were living in a corrugated iron garage that poor humans erected for their motorcar. These children of God were also very difficult to handle. They were discarded by their own families for their difficult behaviour. They were into drugs, having sex with everyone, stealing, fighting and drinking without the power to work. And their was no wife for support. I was the “wife” and God the Husband. I was in this situation for 10 years. Together with this went the rejection of me and my newfound lifestyle by my former of my formal wife and children as well as my church the other churches and my nation in general. This really was everything live could through at me. And I succeeded again.
Then God sent me to Nkqubela. This is a black township with rich and poor staying together. Here He did something else. Everything I had accumulated in my “rich” years I had to sell and give the money to these people. Obviously only to the poor. And as He has written in His Bible that is the widows and the orphans. So I sold everything and had R300 000. My wife took hers according to marriage conditions. Then there was R200 000 left. So God organised His way. For approximately 2 months I was a “Father” to approximately 200 children. They were from every age between 80 years and 1 month old. So I had to be a parent to them. I took them to town and buy for every one what they needed as a “mother” while they called me “father”. According to what God got written down it is food and clothes. So I bought them the food specified. It is vegetables, mealie meal, sugar and oil. Not expensive food but nourishing. Not what they wanted but what the needed. Then also I bought them clothes that God specified which were what they needed and not what they wanted. So while the money lasted I was a “mother/father” for these poor in this community.
South Africa is divided by apartheid. So different nations stay “next to” one another in this town of Robertson. But because this town is not too big everybody noticed this situation. It was even written about in the local newspapers. In Nkqubela many started to call me Jesus or God. God even gave many, approximately 30,dreams in this regard. They saw me standing at the door of heaven inviting them in. Others saw me on the clouds above Nkqubela teaching them wisdom. The town was so disturbed in the beginning that the police put me and these children of mine out of town because all of them always followed me. But together with the authorities we found a solution by which this new family could exist.
When my money was finished God told me to make a last effort. I had to organise a legal march to the “church” in the centre of the town with a memorandum which explained that all the rich people gathering there will have much better lives if they stop pouring their “riches” into an expensive building and organisation because God actually love His children more than this big building and organisation they are keeping “alive” with their money. They have witnessed God’s poor children which are just poor because their rich brothers and sisters do not acknowledge them to be the children of God too. Well as can imagined it had no visual effect. I was just named thereafter as the “devil” because look I am fighting against God and “His Church”. This is all established in my Bible and in front of witnesses but into which we cannot go here as the authorities said it is against MA.
The importance of this all was firstly for myself. I reached my death. I had no job because my boss chased me away. I had no family, no house no “children of my own” and therefore I was dead – having noting to live for. And then God created the family He wanted. He took me for a wife and He gave me His children and we became a new family: God’s family. Then, as my Husband, He provided a house. A Xhosa family took me in. These people were poor, working on a farm picking fruit for 6 months of the year. And then He raised them to be one of the richest here in Nkqubela while I was staying with them. They now possess a big Tavern. So the general consensus that I am “God” stayed.
Now I am a mother in God’s family which obviously includes everybody that perceive themselves to be God’s children. This is approximately 90% of this town. Up to now they existed in a broken family. Only a “Father” with no mother. But they have one now. And while the Word is spreading about the new status of the family of God the children of God who are accepting this more correct situation is growing.
As a mother of God’s children now my guiding is that of the Bible of God and according to the Bible my function is outlined in the Bible. The best summary I can give you is here.
Ezekiel 16:1 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, ... -
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
You can read there yourself what my duties are now. As for you - obviously I am now in labour to get you born as children of God.
1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
And:
Joh 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Joh 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/theology/born-again-96444/msg1055063856/#msg1055063856
That is the first duty of a mother. The children came from her womb. After that you will see that I need to wash you and clothe you and feed you to become fully grown.
1Pe 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
https://www.christianforums.com/threads/eat-me.8017058/#post-71499069
and then I have to clothe you with the clothes of the king which you will be then. At that stage you will have the wisdom necessary to rule and the new ruling of God will be established over the earth.
Pro 8:14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
Pro 8:15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
Pro 8:16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/205522-the-kingdom-of-david/
https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-judge-has-finally-arrived.8015972/#post-71504408
http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/in-the-clouds.68723/
All that I gave you here are not foreign concepts for the Christians. But remember. They are still children and do not understand much of their own concepts. I am however busy with them, as your brothers and sisters, to help them to understand also. And some of them give me a very hard time as you will notice in my life.
Some are asking. They didn’t read my Bible. Well they should and not ask about what is written already.
But to help them just a short “letter of recommendation”. I had a “normal” family of 4 for many years. My eldest daughter grow up to 12 and my youngest one to 6. I studied at got my masters and practised theology in my church. I was wealthy as this church is the most wealthy in South Africa. The reason for being a reverend is obviously the amount of money and the status but also a mixture of love for God. So I aspired to do the best for my family. So I successfully handled this situation as a “father”.
Then God changed my situation to a more difficult one. He gave me a challenging situation where I didn’t have the “luxuries” of the first family. Which include a good job with lots of money obedient children and a wife helping with the situation. Now I had the “lowest” of jobs, working with a spade in the sun and a “boss” shouting at me for every mistake etc. And He steadily increased my children to thirteen while we were living in a corrugated iron garage that poor humans erected for their motorcar. These children of God were also very difficult to handle. They were discarded by their own families for their difficult behaviour. They were into drugs, having sex with everyone, stealing, fighting and drinking without the power to work. And their was no wife for support. I was the “wife” and God the Husband. I was in this situation for 10 years. Together with this went the rejection of me and my newfound lifestyle by my former of my formal wife and children as well as my church the other churches and my nation in general. This really was everything live could through at me. And I succeeded again.
Then God sent me to Nkqubela. This is a black township with rich and poor staying together. Here He did something else. Everything I had accumulated in my “rich” years I had to sell and give the money to these people. Obviously only to the poor. And as He has written in His Bible that is the widows and the orphans. So I sold everything and had R300 000. My wife took hers according to marriage conditions. Then there was R200 000 left. So God organised His way. For approximately 2 months I was a “Father” to approximately 200 children. They were from every age between 80 years and 1 month old. So I had to be a parent to them. I took them to town and buy for every one what they needed as a “mother” while they called me “father”. According to what God got written down it is food and clothes. So I bought them the food specified. It is vegetables, mealie meal, sugar and oil. Not expensive food but nourishing. Not what they wanted but what the needed. Then also I bought them clothes that God specified which were what they needed and not what they wanted. So while the money lasted I was a “mother/father” for these poor in this community.
South Africa is divided by apartheid. So different nations stay “next to” one another in this town of Robertson. But because this town is not too big everybody noticed this situation. It was even written about in the local newspapers. In Nkqubela many started to call me Jesus or God. God even gave many, approximately 30,dreams in this regard. They saw me standing at the door of heaven inviting them in. Others saw me on the clouds above Nkqubela teaching them wisdom. The town was so disturbed in the beginning that the police put me and these children of mine out of town because all of them always followed me. But together with the authorities we found a solution by which this new family could exist.
When my money was finished God told me to make a last effort. I had to organise a legal march to the “church” in the centre of the town with a memorandum which explained that all the rich people gathering there will have much better lives if they stop pouring their “riches” into an expensive building and organisation because God actually love His children more than this big building and organisation they are keeping “alive” with their money. They have witnessed God’s poor children which are just poor because their rich brothers and sisters do not acknowledge them to be the children of God too. Well as can imagined it had no visual effect. I was just named thereafter as the “devil” because look I am fighting against God and “His Church”. This is all established in my Bible and in front of witnesses but into which we cannot go here as the authorities said it is against MA.
The importance of this all was firstly for myself. I reached my death. I had no job because my boss chased me away. I had no family, no house no “children of my own” and therefore I was dead – having noting to live for. And then God created the family He wanted. He took me for a wife and He gave me His children and we became a new family: God’s family. Then, as my Husband, He provided a house. A Xhosa family took me in. These people were poor, working on a farm picking fruit for 6 months of the year. And then He raised them to be one of the richest here in Nkqubela while I was staying with them. They now possess a big Tavern. So the general consensus that I am “God” stayed.
Now I am a mother in God’s family which obviously includes everybody that perceive themselves to be God’s children. This is approximately 90% of this town. Up to now they existed in a broken family. Only a “Father” with no mother. But they have one now. And while the Word is spreading about the new status of the family of God the children of God who are accepting this more correct situation is growing.
As a mother of God’s children now my guiding is that of the Bible of God and according to the Bible my function is outlined in the Bible. The best summary I can give you is here.
Ezekiel 16:1 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, ... -
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
You can read there yourself what my duties are now. As for you - obviously I am now in labour to get you born as children of God.
1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
And:
Joh 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Joh 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/theology/born-again-96444/msg1055063856/#msg1055063856
That is the first duty of a mother. The children came from her womb. After that you will see that I need to wash you and clothe you and feed you to become fully grown.
1Pe 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
https://www.christianforums.com/threads/eat-me.8017058/#post-71499069
and then I have to clothe you with the clothes of the king which you will be then. At that stage you will have the wisdom necessary to rule and the new ruling of God will be established over the earth.
Pro 8:14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
Pro 8:15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
Pro 8:16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/205522-the-kingdom-of-david/
https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-judge-has-finally-arrived.8015972/#post-71504408
http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/in-the-clouds.68723/
All that I gave you here are not foreign concepts for the Christians. But remember. They are still children and do not understand much of their own concepts. I am however busy with them, as your brothers and sisters, to help them to understand also. And some of them give me a very hard time as you will notice in my life.
PartSkeptic
Illuminator
No. I will be wrong. If it happens a bit later, I am still wrong. Partly wrong but wrong anyway.
I am not sure about whether the information I got can be relied on. I have chosen a belief system based on evidence I have experienced. It is not a certainty, unlike the belief system that there is no supernatural.
Porpoise of Life
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It's nice that you've managed to find meaning in your life and are doing things for other people.
If you had lived in the 15th century, you could have been a mystic and lived in a hollow tree somewhere.
But as far as I know it is a grave heresy in all sects of Christianity to claim that you are God. I'm not up to date on what they think about men calling themselves God's daughter-wife, but I doubt they're more accepting of that.
It comes across as really strange to me that on the one hand you claim to derive authority from the Bible, and on the other hand you go against it.
If you had lived in the 15th century, you could have been a mystic and lived in a hollow tree somewhere.
But as far as I know it is a grave heresy in all sects of Christianity to claim that you are God. I'm not up to date on what they think about men calling themselves God's daughter-wife, but I doubt they're more accepting of that.
It comes across as really strange to me that on the one hand you claim to derive authority from the Bible, and on the other hand you go against it.
PartSkeptic
Illuminator
And have I not said that your "evidence" is not accurate? That it is selective. So the poor have access to cell phones and medical aid. Do you see the toxic environments in which they live? The number of refugees is at an all time high.
You live in a bubble of denial.
abaddon
Penultimate Amazing
Let the backpedaling commence.
Now your prior certainty vanishes. What a surprise.
Yet somehow cannot demonstrate to anyone else.
Who has a belief system that the supernatural does not exist? I, for one, would believe anything supernatural were it demonstrated to exist. To date, NO supernatural claim has met it's burden of proof. Not a single one. Your claims in particular are some of the weakest claims for the supernatural I have ever seen.
Belz...
Fiend God
Those are your words, Johan. Or do you believe that _YOUR_ experience trumps objective reality?
You have got to tell me what you're on.
PartSkeptic
Illuminator
Seems to me to be doing God's work?
Try losing everything and see how much humility and empathy for the struggling poor that gives you. People need leadership with morality. Christianity can give one that. The big corporations could learn a lesson or two. Not tax-deductible "philanthropy" for PR reasons.
PartSkeptic
Illuminator
Example of how sick society is becoming.
abaddon
Penultimate Amazing
How would you feel if I offered up my daughters to be raped when a mob came to my door? Would that be better? or worse?
Aepervius
Non credunt, semper verificare
Becoming ?
The ONLY difference from 35 years ago is that now the idiot get caught more easily because they put it on FB or whatever.
But such disgusting action already existed decades ago. At my school a girl was forced by 5 teens to give them all oral sex. They were all 16/17. That was about 30 years ago. And i am pretty sure people could come up with similar anecdote from 60 or 100 years ago.
Society did not become worst. Society became better and is finding out/punishing such crime more easily.
I would rather live now in the west than in ANY past society. Especially as a woman.
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Craig4
Penultimate Amazing
More sick than crusading knights eating children or Cambodians killing everyone with an education? This sort of thing has been going on for thousands of years. I would offer that we are less sick now because we have laws against such things in most places. If the woman had been a slave in Rome the vast majority of Romans wouldn't have thought anything of it. Yet, there were Christian doomsday prophets then too.
Craig4
Penultimate Amazing
Got it, life isn't working out and you made up a lofty position for yourself on the internet. Oh and are you still a guy?
Czarcasm
Groovy Groovy Guru
Could you name the particular religious sect you belong to, or did you invent your own?
PartSkeptic
Illuminator
I choose to believe that many religions got a piece of the truth. I do think that Christianity and Islam offer the best guidance on morality. I have no need of any sect.
Belz...
Fiend God
Consult, please.