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GMOs: This is World War III- It Just Isn't Labeled

This thread is about GMOs with a side order of Vatican conspiracy theories; please try to stay on that topic. Whilst connections between the ideas expressed in this thread and 9/11 may exist in the world-view of some contributors, we have a whole section devoted to 9/11 musings. Please discuss 9/11-related ideas in the appropriate place.

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Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Agatha
 
9/11, GMOs and the Psychopathic True Believer

dudalb said:
No thread about the Knights of Malta is complete without this:

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The stuff that dreams are made of...and Dashell Hamett's fiction about the Knights of Malta is a billion times better then what papamundi has given us
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Ladies and Gentleman,
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It seems that people who are in the throes of a mass movement not only care less about spilling the blood of their Devil, but end up actually thinking less about the well being of their own sovereign selves. In fact, one of the main affects of a mass movement is the giving up of one’s individuality. And if you've given up your individuality, then you insist that everyone else must do so. The True Believer thinks this because they believe themselves to be in a red alert situation as they rid the world of their Devil. Well, it says so on the news, so the major threat must be true. The world is going to hell and the only way to save it is to kill more bad people.

You may be thinking right now, “What right do people have to eat organic food in these troubled times? The Nation needs GMOs. All those smart people said they are the same, so they must be right." Maybe organic food seems to you to be an elitist ideal — something for celebrities and pompous, pampered pussies.

Real men (and women) eat GMO's…

Yummy,
Peter Valentino
 

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papamundi said:
Ladies and Gentleman,

According to Eric Hoffer, a True Believer is one who blindly follows a mass movement. We can and must think of 9/11 as being causative of a mass movement in America and in the world. And the 9/11 mass movement has a Devil, like all other mass movements before it. The 9/11 Devil was initially Osama bin Laden. Many of you on this site probably still believe that he was culpable for 9/11. Those who have thought about it, see that he was a red herring, and that he had nothing to do with the perpetration of the events on 9/11.

Now that he is dead and Al Qaeda has become boring, we have ISIS, another concoction of Western intelligence. But the good people of America don't care about the Truth. They want to move ahead strongly with the mass murder in the Middle East — 4 million dead and counting.

Historically, mass movements often engage in mass murder. And if one is a True Believer in 9/11, one is also a believer in the beneficial qualities of genocidal mass murder. In fact, these blind followers are so conditioned by their thoughts about religion and politics and who's right and who's wrong and who has the right color of skin or the right thought system, that they feel more comfortable about mass murder than they do about seeking for the Truth. Who needs reason when you have belief?

Now enter GMOs. Do you think it's an altogether different subject? What the hell do GMOs have to do with 9/11? Soon you will see that they come from the same governmental entity. But, beyond that, it seems that people who are in the throes of a mass movement not only care less about spilling the blood of their Devil, but end up actually thinking less about the well being of their own sovereign selves. In fact, one of the main affects of a mass movement is the giving up of one’s individuality. And if you've given up your individuality, then you insist that everyone else must do so. The True Believer thinks this because they believe themselves to be in a red alert situation as they rid the world of their Devil. Well, it says so on the news, so the major threat must be true. The world is going to hell and the only way to save it is to kill more bad people.

You may be thinking right now, “What right do people have to eat organic food in these troubled times? The Nation needs GMOs. All those smart people said they are the same, so they must be right." Maybe organic food seems to you to be an elitist ideal — something for celebrities and pompous, pampered pussies.

Real men (and women) eat GMO's…

Yummy,
Peter Valentino
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Deary, deary, you drank the organic koolaid.
 
pappamundi:
Some time and several pages ago, I showed how your views are based, at least in part, on hoaxes and factual inaccuracies.
You have not responded to this. Instead, you continue to post the same views as if nothing had changed. You know these claims aren't true, and so does anyone else that read my posts.
My question, then, is this:
Since no-one here, yourself included, can believe most of what you say (only qualified because there simply isn't time to go through each and every claim and disprove it, not because I believe in any way that your views are factually substantiated), then why do you continue to post it? What do you hope to achieve?
 
I must say, I welcome our GMO overlords.

If this is World War III then BRAVO! This has got to be the only war in the history of humanity that not only took no human life, but actually saves millions of lives annually.
 
After Agatha's edit papamundi's latest offering consists of nothing but hay and thrift store clothing on a stick. With a bit more work it might make a decent strawman.
 
CRISPR is making GMO so easy a child could do it.

Banana flavored pears anyone?
 
The Greater Fool said:
I must say, I welcome our GMO overlords.

If this is World War III then BRAVO! This has got to be the only war in the history of humanity that not only took no human life, but actually saves millions of lives annually.
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Ah you don't see the evil plan - feed everyone until the planet bursts from overcrowding - clever these evil plotters....
 
I was a vegetarian for about three years and I now will eat fish, primarily, chicken and occasionally eat beef in stir fries. I consider myself an omnitarian.;) I have done this enough to realize that a proper diet will do wonders. I agree that the American diet is very deleterious to health. I have a friend that is a raw food diet guy and his overall health is incredible. We go to raw food restaurants all the time.

Regarding Monsanto, you are right on the money. Below I have linked to a video with Jane Ayre and her husband, Steve Wilson, who were reporters for Fox News and had an aborted series called "Unsettling Accounts". Their first story was about hormones in milk. Check it out and also the other links below the video. Here's a bit about it:

After our struggle to air an honest report [on hormones in milk], Fox fired the general manager [of our station]. The new GM said that if we didn't agree to changes that the lawyers were insisting upon, we'd be fired for insubordination in 48 hours. We pleaded with [him] to look at the facts we'd uncovered. His reply: "We paid $3 billion dollars for these stations. We'll tell you what the news is. The news is what we say it is!" [After we refused] Fox's GM presented us an agreement that would give us a full year of salary, and benefits worth close to $200,000, but with strings attached: no mention of how Fox covered up the story and no opportunity to ever expose the facts. [After declining] we were fired

By February 1997 our story was ready to air. It attempted to answer some troubling questions: Why had Monsanto sued two small dairies to prevent them from labeling their milk as coming from cows not injected with [growth hormone rBGH]? Why had two Canadian health regulators claimed that their jobs were threatened – and then said Monsanto offered them a bribe to give fast-track approval to the drug? Why did Florida supermarkets break their much-publicized promise that milk in the dairy case would not come from hormone-treated cows? And why was the US the only major industrialized nation to approve this controversial genetically engineered hormone? (p. 211)

Station managers were so proud of our work that they saturated virtually every Tampa Bay radio station with thousands of dollars' worth of ads urging viewers to watch what we'd uncovered about "The Mystery in Your Milk." But then, our Fox managers' pride turned to panic. [Monsanto lawyer] John Walsh wrote that some points of the story "clearly contain the elements of defamatory statements which, if repeated in a broadcast, could lead to serious damage to Monsanto and dire consequences for Fox News." (pp. 211-213)

http://www.personalgrowthcourses.net/video/media_censorship_video
http://www.foxbghsuit.com/
 
I don't think a news organization should be able to publish defamatory comments without facing the consequences of a lawsuit.
 
papamundi said:
I remember listening to a success tape years ago (when there were tapes) and the speaker talked about a South American tribe who were building disease elements into their huts. The speaker was confounded by why they would continue to do this ancient an archaic practice even though it had been proven to them that it caused disease.
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I heard the same program, except on a Victrola machine.
 
papamundi, my apologies if I missed this already being discussed, but if what you say is true, how do you explain the ever-rising life expectancy statistics in first world nations?
 
Monsanto has accused Oakhurst Dairy Inc. of engaging in misleading and deceptive marketing practices by carrying labels that seem to disparage the use of artificial growth hormones in cows.

Monsanto is the maker of the only major artificial growth hormone, Posilac. It has been on the market since 1994 and is used in about a third of the nation's nine million dairy cows.

The company, which also pioneered the development of genetically modified crops, says its product was approved for use by the Food and Drug Administration. It also says that the Oakhurst labels suggest that milk that comes from cows treated with artificial growth hormones is somehow unsafe or lower in quality.

Since they were introduced nearly a decade ago, artificial growth hormones have come under vigorous attack from some consumer groups, organic farmers and other critics because of concerns that they are harmful to cows, that they make cows produce milk that is chemically and nutritionally different from natural milk and that they could induce higher rates of cancer in humans.

Many scientists, however, say those claims are largely fabricated and fictional. And Monsanto says its product, which is intended to bolster milk production, is derived from a natural protein produced in cattle.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/12/b...n-maine-over-label-s-remarks-on-hormones.html

The reporters -- a husband-wife team, Steve Wilson and Jane Akre -- had been hired by WTVT in 1997. Just about their only work for the station consisted of an investigation into the Monsanto additive, a growth hormone called rBGH. The station insisted on presenting both sides of the dispute -- there is considerable scientific debate over rBGH, and the federal Food and Drug Administration approved its use in 1993. Wilson and Akre claimed only their anti-rBGH sources were truthful and that the station, in allowing Monsanto to respond to allegations, distorted the truth.

Within a year, the relationship between the station and the reporters had disintegrated, and their contracts weren't renewed. They sued WTVT in May 1998. In a 2000 trial, Wilson lost on all counts. Akre won a limited verdict, but the Second District Court of Appeal in Lakeland overturned that, ruling the reporters' case had "no merit from its inception." The final denouement of the legal case came in 2005, when Wilson paid WTVT $156,000 for legal expenses.

Following the court losses, Wilson and Akre in January 2005, asked the FCC not to renew Fox's license to operate WTVT. The FCC concluded that the conflict was an "editorial dispute ... rather than a deliberate effort by [WTVT] to distort news."
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http://cltampa.com/tampa/wilson-akres-fcc-challenge-dismissed/Content?oid=2027397#.VpNOE_mUeSo
 
papamundi said:
Ladies and Gentleman,
Edited by Agatha: 
Removed 9/11 based content. Please try to stick to the topic of GM foods.


It seems that people who are in the throes of a mass movement not only care less about spilling the blood of their Devil, but end up actually thinking less about the well being of their own sovereign selves. In fact, one of the main affects of a mass movement is the giving up of one’s individuality. And if you've given up your individuality, then you insist that everyone else must do so. The True Believer thinks this because they believe themselves to be in a red alert situation as they rid the world of their Devil. Well, it says so on the news, so the major threat must be true. The world is going to hell and the only way to save it is to kill more bad people.

You may be thinking right now, “What right do people have to eat organic food in these troubled times? The Nation needs GMOs. All those smart people said they are the same, so they must be right." Maybe organic food seems to you to be an elitist ideal — something for celebrities and pompous, pampered pussies.

Real men (and women) eat GMO's…

Yummy,
Peter Valentino
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Wow,what a great example of a Godwin.....
 
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