The Official Alex Jones Thread!

[Mike!]

Would fleeing the country actually save him a dime if all his assets remain in America?

 

[JayUtah]

(Slightly) More seriously, is he even allowed to travel with the fact he owes millions still outstanding?

No reason he can't. While it's common to restrict the travel of people under criminal suspicion, indictment, or conviction, that doesn't apply to civil judgments or debts. Fleeing the jurisdiction of your debt probably kills any chance you might have of favorable bankruptcy proceedings, if you've filed for bankruptcy. But that doesn't seem to be a credible option for Jones.

Would fleeing the country actually save him a dime if all his assets remain in America?

The only assets he'd have after Chapter 7 bankruptcy would be those shielded for personal use. Presumably if a high-profile American like Alex Jones defected to Russia, Putin would reward him with better assets. The advantage would be that the judgment outstanding against him would be impossible for the plaintiffs to collect, so whatever he earned in Russia would be his to keep.

 

[Mojo]

I'd suggest starting a gofundme for purchasing the one-way ticket...

How about a half-way ticket?

 

[Hercules Rockefeller]

He should do it and get to experience real freedom of speech under Pootin.

 

[cow_cat]

Shortly after posting I remembered this was all civil proceedings, so no restrictions on his movements.

 

[ponderingturtle]

No reason he can't. While it's common to restrict the travel of people under criminal suspicion, indictment, or conviction, that doesn't apply to civil judgments or debts. Fleeing the jurisdiction of your debt probably kills any chance you might have of favorable bankruptcy proceedings, if you've filed for bankruptcy. But that doesn't seem to be a credible option for Jones.

I believe he got kicked out of bankruptcy court

 

[CarbShark]

Would fleeing the country actually save him a dime if all his assets remain in America?

That's where most of his debts and other liabilities are too

 

[JayUtah]

I believe he got kicked out of bankruptcy court

As we discussed up-thread, his Chapter 11 petition was ripe for dismissal but was converted to a Chapter 7 petition and set for liquidation. The trustee announced he was going to sell Info Wars. I think there was some intervening action by one of the plaintiffs that complicated that plan. But as far as I know, he's still in Chapter 7 liquidation.

 

[rjh01]

Well this is interesting.

https://www.rawstory.com/alex-jones-russia/



I'd suggest starting a gofundme for purchasing the one-way ticket, but we all know he'll never follow through with it.

(Slightly) More seriously, is he even allowed to travel with the fact he owes millions still outstanding?

There is a significant difference in living standards between the two countries, making the invitation not very attractive to anyone. And that is even ignoring the economic consequences of the current war. Or maybe they might bring in heaps of cash, live a luxury life based on that and bring an economic boost to the country. Though I doubt many of them would be able to earn much money.

 

[SpitfireIX]

How about a half-way ticket?

Or a ticket to Ukraine?

 

[dudalb]

Well this is interesting.

https://www.rawstory.com/alex-jones-russia/



I'd suggest starting a gofundme for purchasing the one-way ticket, but we all know he'll never follow through with it.

(Slightly) More seriously, is he even allowed to travel with the fact he owes millions still outstanding?

As far as I am concerned, if Jones flees to Russia, good riddence to bad garbage.

 

[Brainster]

I heard that someone suggested a wealthy Jones supporter could buy Infowars and give Jones a job to continue doing exactly what he has always done.

I know that quite a few Jones fans are just waiting on the inheritance from their uncle who died in a plane crash in Nigeria.

 

[gabeygoat]

I would absolutely not be surprised to see him and Puckered Carlson end up there

 

[ponderingturtle]

As we discussed up-thread, his Chapter 11 petition was ripe for dismissal but was converted to a Chapter 7 petition and set for liquidation. The trustee announced he was going to sell Info Wars. I think there was some intervening action by one of the plaintiffs that complicated that plan. But as far as I know, he's still in Chapter 7 liquidation.

The thing is there are two seperate bankruptcies, and I know one got dismissed. There was the bankruptcy of infowars and the personal one for alex jones.

 

[JayUtah]

The thing is there are two seperate bankruptcies, and I know one got dismissed. There was the bankruptcy of infowars and the personal one for alex jones.

That's right. Thanks for reminding me.

The Free Speech Systems company bankruptcy was dismissed.

Jones' personal bankruptcy was converted from Chapter 11 to Chapter 7, but this includes Infowars as a personal asset. The trustee in Jones' personal Chapter 7 bankruptcy proposes to liquidate Infowars. But this has run into problems due to a unilateral action by one of the Sandy Hook plaintiffs.

I'm not sure what the relationship is between Free Speech Systems and Infowars, so maybe someone can fill in that gap.

 

[ponderingturtle]

That's right. Thanks for reminding me.

The Free Speech Systems company bankruptcy was dismissed.

Jones' personal bankruptcy was converted from Chapter 11 to Chapter 7, but this includes Infowars as a personal asset. The trustee in Jones' personal Chapter 7 bankruptcy proposes to liquidate Infowars. But this has run into problems due to a unilateral action by one of the Sandy Hook plaintiffs.

I'm not sure what the relationship is between Free Speech Systems and Infowars, so maybe someone can fill in that gap.

Free Speech Systems runs infowars and is where the actual assets are. He has a lot of corporations and until discovery it was hard to know who actually owned anything.

 

[JayUtah]

The current reporting says Infowars is to be liquidated piecemeal according to an order likely to be approved by the presiding judge. The fire-sale proceeds will go to the Sandy Hook plaintiffs. And of course Jones is on the air blubbering like a baby, blaming the plaintiffs for all sorts of imaginary injuries.

 

[ponderingturtle]

The current reporting says Infowars is to be liquidated piecemeal according to an order likely to be approved by the presiding judge. The fire-sale proceeds will go to the Sandy Hook plaintiffs. And of course Jones is on the air blubbering like a baby, blaming the plaintiffs for all sorts of imaginary injuries.

Well at least his truck is safe, he gave it to his father and now his dad simply lets him drive it. Hiding assets for the win.

 

[SpitfireIX]

The current reporting says Infowars is to be liquidated piecemeal according to an order likely to be approved by the presiding judge. The fire-sale proceeds will go to the Sandy Hook plaintiffs. And of course Jones is on the air blubbering like a baby, blaming the plaintiffs for all sorts of imaginary injuries.

From National Reviewhttps://www.nationalreview.com/news...on-of-alex-joness-assets-in-november-auction/:

Amid his ongoing bankruptcy troubles, Jones has suggested that his supporters could buy InfoWars‘ assets, which could allow him to continue hosting his talk show as an InfoWars employee.

“It’s very cut and dry that the assets of Free Speech Systems, the website, the equipment, the shopping cart, all that, can be sold,” Jones said recently. “And they know full well that there are a bunch of patriot buyers, and then the operation can ease on.”​

Let's hope that doesn't happen.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

From National Reviewhttps://www.nationalreview.com/news...on-of-alex-joness-assets-in-november-auction/:

Amid his ongoing bankruptcy troubles, Jones has suggested that his supporters could buy InfoWars‘ assets, which could allow him to continue hosting his talk show as an InfoWars employee.

“It’s very cut and dry that the assets of Free Speech Systems, the website, the equipment, the shopping cart, all that, can be sold,” Jones said recently. “And they know full well that there are a bunch of patriot buyers, and then the operation can ease on.”​

Let's hope that doesn't happen.

Would his listeners have the money? Remember his programming was squarely pointed at those so desperate for money that they'd fall for get rich quick scams such as gold-buggery.

 

[SpitfireIX]

Would his listeners have the money? Remember his programming was squarely pointed at those so desperate for money that they'd fall for get rich quick scams such as gold-buggery.

I think it partly depends on whether his supporters are smart enough and well-organized enough to form a syndicate to bid on the assets. That strikes me as unlikely, but not impossible. Also, sadly, Jones does have some wealthy supporters, plus there may be some people who don't agree with him, but recognize that putting him back on the air could be a good business opportunity.

 

[JayUtah]

I think it partly depends on whether his supporters are smart enough and well-organized enough to form a syndicate to bid on the assets. That strikes me as unlikely, but not impossible. Also, sadly, Jones does have some wealthy supporters, plus there may be some people who don't agree with him, but recognize that putting him back on the air could be a good business opportunity.

It might be a good business opportunity or it might be a disaster. If someone else buys Infowars, puts it back together, and hires Jones to continue business as usual, the doctrine of respondeat superior makes them liable for Jones' antics. All he has to do to sink them is broadcast one more Sandy Hook defamation that is substantially similar to the previous one, and they are on the hook for their own judgment. And that judgment will sail through the courts, since collateral estoppel prevents Jones from arguing the statements are not defamatory.

Alex Jones is toxic. The question is whether someone will consider that toxicity an acceptable risk in exchange for the revenue.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

What is worth the most, currently, is the handle "Infowars", which is on websites and social media accounts.
Only one of jones' shadowy billionaire sugar daddies could buy that, and they might.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

I think it partly depends on whether his supporters are smart enough and well-organized enough to form a syndicate to bid on the assets. That strikes me as unlikely, but not impossible. Also, sadly, Jones does have some wealthy supporters, plus there may be some people who don't agree with him, but recognize that putting him back on the air could be a good business opportunity.

If one of Jones' rich backers buys the Infowars assets, it'll be to bury them and to stop somebody else using them to expose Jones further. I can't see one of his rich backers keeping him on air at this stage, too risky.

 

[Horatius]

I can't see one of his rich backers keeping him on air at this stage, too risky.

For certain values of "On the Air". It's clear that there's a lot of money in spreading right wing nonsense, and InfoWars has a long-established reputation within that industry. I could see some rich guy seeing this as an opportunity to get into this game for a relatively inexpensive investment.

The key is, if I were running this, I'd only let AJ do recorded episodes, and retain final say on what actually goes out to the viewers. That way, you can edit anything libelous. AJ will hate this, but what else could he do? It's not like anyone else would give him a job, and if he tries to create InfoWars 2.0, he just exposes himself to more liability.

 

[SpitfireIX]

It might be a good business opportunity or it might be a disaster. If someone else buys Infowars, puts it back together, and hires Jones to continue business as usual, the doctrine of respondeat superior makes them liable for Jones' antics. All he has to do to sink them is broadcast one more Sandy Hook defamation that is substantially similar to the previous one, and they are on the hook for their own judgment. And that judgment will sail through the courts, since collateral estoppel prevents Jones from arguing the statements are not defamatory.

Alex Jones is toxic. The question is whether someone will consider that toxicity an acceptable risk in exchange for the revenue.

I should have clarified that I didn't mean that just anyone who doesn't agree with Jones, but is willing to run the risk, might be a potential buyer/employer. I think it would take someone who's alt-right/conspiracist-adjacent, like Tucker Carlson.

 

[arthwollipot]

I think someone should buy all of the rights to the Infowars IP and use it to put out non-stop parodies of right-wing politicians.

 

[gabeygoat]

I think someone should buy all of the rights to the Infowars IP and use it to put out non-stop parodies of right-wing politicians.

If I had money I'd buy the desk for the guys at Knowledge fight. The website would be a good one too.


Jones has long sucked up to Carlson, but now Carlson is kinda returning the favor so I would not be surprised if they have something up their sleeve

 

[Matthew Best]

Robbie Parker and his family were devastated by the death of their beloved, inquisitive Emilie. Then rightwing provocateurs claimed he was a ‘crisis actor’ and the threats began

 

[The Great Zaganza]

If I had money I'd buy the desk for the guys at Knowledge fight. The website would be a good one too.


Jones has long sucked up to Carlson, but now Carlson is kinda returning the favor so I would not be surprised if they have something up their sleeve

Carlson can see that Jones is about to go down, and is positioning himself to inherit the gold coin/dick pill crowd of Infowars.

 

[Mongrel]

The Onion has snapped up Infowars, sanctioned by the families of the Sandy Hook shooting, the production studio and diet supplement business.,

The Onion plans to relaunch Infowars in January as a parody of itself, he said, mocking “weird internet personalities” like Mr. Jones who traffic in misinformation and health supplements.

 

[AmyStrange]

Am I the only one who thinks this is satirical irony at it's best?


Satire slinger The Onion buys Alex Jones' Infowars at auction with help from Sandy Hook families



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[The Great Zaganza]

that's priceless.
Well, it wasn't, but it is possibly the best outcome under the circumstances.

 

[Mashuna]

I think someone should buy all of the rights to the Infowars IP and use it to put out non-stop parodies of right-wing politicians.

Well predicted!

 

[Mongrel]

Here's why I decided to buy Info Wars at The Onion

 

[AmyStrange]

Here's why I decided to buy Info Wars at The Onion

OMG, I can tell this will be a good investment:

Founded in 1999 on the heels of the Satanic “panic” and growing steadily ever since, InfoWars has distinguished itself as an invaluable tool for brainwashing and controlling the masses. With a shrewd mix of delusional paranoia and dubious anti-aging nutrition hacks, they strive to make life both scarier and longer for everyone, a commendable goal. They are a true unicorn, capable of simultaneously inspiring public support for billionaires and stoking outrage at an inept federal state that can assassinate JFK but can’t even put a man on the Moon.

ETA: The source of satire will be endless, especially with the maga weirdoes running things, including the inefficient Department of Efficiency and the "new" sleepy Department of Warriors to lead the battle... bwahahahaha


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[SpitfireIX]

Poe's Law tells us that a lot of Jones's followers (and critics, for that matter) may not even notice the change.

 

[crescent]

(accidental post)

 

[Pixel42]

The Onion buys rightwing conspiracy theory site Infowars with plans to make it ‘very funny, very stupid’

Satirical news outlet purchases media platform run by Alex Jones at a court-ordered auction

www.theguardian.com

In order to make the bid work, a lawyer representing the families told CNN that the families “agreed to forgo a portion of their recovery to increase the overall value of the Onion’s bid, enabling its success”.

“After surviving unimaginable loss with courage and integrity, they rejected Jones’s hollow offers for allegedly more money if they would only let him stay on the air because doing so would have put other families in harm’s way,” said Chris Mattei, an attorney for the families.

In a post on social media earlier this week, Mattei added that “the breakup of Infowars this week is just the start of Alex Jones’s lesson in accountability” and that the families “will go after his future income and any new Infowars owner acting as a vehicle for Jones’s continued control of the business”.

 

[ElMondoHummus]

OMG, this is hilarious. The unintentional parody site will now become the intentional parody site.

That's frikkin' beautiful. And it gets to screw over the work of one of the worst individuals I can think of without Godwining myself.

I'm now waiting to see how much of its former readership doesn't get the news and fails to recognize the change.